OzzieMandias

Extremely relevant to the thread of course. You obviously haven't been reading the thread. I have thanks. I just thought it didn't really have any relevance at all. Apart from picking faults in anything posted by specific users that don't agree with your viewpoint. I thought taking issue with the specific viewpoints of other posters was the essence of online discussion, but there you go. I was wrong. Going by your post I now understand that it involves whining a lot in a self-righteous fashion after you have completely missed the point. do you mean, as in when someone who criticises the managerial appointments, and asking as a reply do you consider appointing a manager who wins 4 titles with 2 different clubs and 3 manager of the year awards to be a bad appointment or not ? No. You'd have to be a loon to interpret my words that way.

Extremely relevant to the thread of course. You obviously haven't been reading the thread. I have thanks. I just thought it didn't really have any relevance at all. Apart from picking faults in anything posted by specific users that don't agree with your viewpoint. I thought taking issue with the specific viewpoints of other posters was the essence of online discussion, but there you go. I was wrong. Going by your post I now understand that it involves whining a lot in a self-righteous fashion after you have completely missed the point.

do you think he would consider a manager who won 4 titles with 2 different clubs and 3 manager of the year awards to be a good appointment, or do you think he would agree with you and think not Aye, that's about the level it belongs on. Ludmilla peers towards the camera in her sultry nylon nightie, putting on her sexiest accent: "I am looking for the manager who is winning four titles with two different clubs, and two manager of the year awards."

Extremely relevant to the thread of course. You obviously haven't been reading the thread.

Roeder was the worst manager we've had for years IMO. If he was a school teacher the kids would be firing pellets at his arse through a pea shooter every time he tried to write on the blackboard. That sums the fucker up. In certain lights, he bore an outstanding resemblance to Paul Whicker the Tall Vicar.

NJS reminds me of a painting I once saw, in a big exhibition of post-communist art, which was satirising the tawdry online ads with which women from Russia and Ukraine tried to lure a western husband. One bint's text about herself simply read: "I am looking for the nice millionaire."

Rich cockneys have been ruled out, though.

Brilliant plan, Baldrick. Well since he's supposedly put the club up for sale in the first place for that reason it sounds reasonable to me Nursey. Yeah, right, that obviously proves that he'll be willing to sell off one of his principle assets at a loss just to keep you happy.

Brilliant plan, Baldrick.

That's if you believe Ashley ever intended to sell. "putting it up for sale" is different to accepting what were probably reasonable offers. Well I believe he's been trying to sell for a year now, since way before the evil banner. However this claim that he couldn't sell the club is ridiculous. Unless Harris was lying, there were at least 7 parties interested enough to provide documentation of their ability to buy the club before they were shown the accounts. These didn't include the Nigerians or South Africans who were all mouth and no trousers. Any of those parties could have bought the club if they thought the price was fair for a club at risk of relegation. Despite worries that the banner is putting off buyers, I doubt "must have 100% gullible supporters" is high on the list of priorities for prospective purchasers, especially considering these people were interested in the first place. Perhaps Harris is lying here, then: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jan/13/digger-newcastle-united-sale-hedge-fund-fraud-madhoff-arsenal-shares-kevin-pietersen-ipl

Or so it sez here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jan/13/digger-newcastle-united-sale-hedge-fund-fraud-madhoff-arsenal-shares-kevin-pietersen-ipl

The scousers banner isn't retarded in the same way that ours is. It concerns owners who don't want to sell, invoking a particular potential buyer, one that for a while seemed serious about its intention to purchase the club, rather than moronically demanding that an owner who has tried and failed to sell the club, should sell the club.

Or "The club that I love is being destroyed by a Southern dominated cabal for reasons of self-aggrandisement and I would prefer it if you left, selling the club at a reasonable profit for your trouble. Close the door on your way out. This is a heart-felt emotional response." Even more expensive and not quite so pithy. But just as fuckwitted.

Don't be daft. There are plenty of people who love it, even though it's retarded.

No reason not to moan and slash your wrists, though. aye, mackems will be pleased about it. Pleased that someone heard that Moncur supposedly said that Kinnear supposedly said something or other? I'll ask him what he said the next time I see him. Meanwhiile, I'm pleased you still appear to think Ashley is doing a good job, much better than qualifying in europe. Thats what mackems think too by the way. Well, you'd know, I guess.

Be expensive though. That's very true. Well, the shorthand does the trick just as well.

No reason not to moan and slash your wrists, though. aye, mackems will be pleased about it. Pleased that someone heard that Moncur supposedly said that Kinnear supposedly said something or other?

Really the banner would more accurately convey its core message if it read like this: "We're a bit stupid and we hate you, at least partly for xenophobic reasons, so don't bother trying to do anything to please us because that won't ever change!"

No reason not to moan and slash your wrists, though.

See Ronaldos comemnts, and the someone is wor lass and my old boss comfirmed the commenst as well. Aye, you've supposedly heard that someone supposedly heard that Moncur supposedly heard that Kinnear said something like this. Supposedly. It's like a fucking game of Chinese whispers.

So someone supposedly heard Moncur say that Kinnear supposedly said this.

And waving idiotic "cockney mafia" banners like a bunch of mongs will solve everything, of course.

And it shows. Try reading the post you're supposedly replying to.

It might stop this idea that he's "welcome back" for starters. So where do we all go from here then? Not as a deliberate campaign but ST renewals will show him I think. Think you missed my point. What I'm asking is if he can't go and he isn't welcome back then what happens now? he will either accept a reduced price or be forced to accept a reduced price due to relegation, because I can't see him having a change of heart for the simple reason seriously competing with the big boys again was never on his agenda to start with. IMO anyway. And if no-one makes an offer? Why would someone whose aim was to compete with the big boys not give him what he's asking for the club? you were asking what would happen next ? Another possibility is that we will spend years, or more years, competing at the level of the Birminghams, Stokes, Boltons etc of the football world. Eventually going down, and spend at least a few years trying to get back up ? Another alternative is we might be the only solvent club in the premiership, managing to stave off relegation for years and settling for staying in the premiership and solvency while other clubs showing ambition are successful on the pitch ? If you don't think that is what might happen next, what alternative to the above possibilities do you think could happen next ? When I say "compete with the big boys", you do understand that we are the 3rd biggest supported club in the country, with a unique one city one club fanbase, and really ought to be competing higher than these smaller clubs ie like we did between 1992 and 2007 ? What I started off asking was "if he can't go and he isn't welcome back then what happens now?", meaning if no-one else buys the club (for whatever reason) and the fans won't accept him as the owner, where does that leave NUFC as a club? I'd suggest that the answer is not in a good place. If the situation is that he can't leave, then the only thing that can change is for the fans to accept that as the reality and try to encourage him to do the best for the club that they can get him to. The club is in turmoil at the moment how long does that go on before people put away their pride/anger/whatever and start doing something about it? What good does it do for the fans to do all they can to discourage the owner from wanting anything to do with the club? Given the current global financial situation it's looking increasingly unlikely that someone's going to come along and buy the club, so whether we like it or not, it looks like the club is going to continue being owned by Mike Ashley in the short to medium term at least. Are people going to continue protesting for months, years, decades? If they are, how does that help us win games, attract new players, etc? Because it's hardly going to encourage him to invest in the club, is it. If we are going to get bought out by someone else, then again, how does continuing protests actually help that? Everyone knows the fans aren't happy now, everyone knows Ashley wants out, all that carrying on the protests does is make that less likely, rather than more likely. Whether it's true or not, the media portray us as having unrealistic expectations and most of the rest of the country has accepted that as the truth. So the only people who are likely to want to buy the club are people like those that have taken over Citeh (ie have unlimited funds) everyone else is going to see NUFC as a hiding to nothing. The more the protests go on the more this opinion will solidify in people's minds and the harder it'll become for the club to be sold, regardless of the global conditions. I have to say I'm surprised to see you using an "anyone but Shepherd Ashley" argument, do you really think that the kind of people who would have to wait for Ashley to significantly lower his asking price are the kind of people who could afford to be "ambitious"? I don't. We're caught in a catch-22 situation there's no-one about that is going to come in and spend mega-money and the perception is that the fans won't accept someone coming in and not spending big. Something has to change, it doesn't look like the first one's going to, so that leaves the second and it's one of the few things in modern football that the fans might actually be able to have some impact upon, if they want to. That seems to be a big if at the moment though. Indi's on a roll.