Parky

The magic has gone.

I'd say good loans like those are an absolute priority.

:omg:

Derbyshire, Bouzazza.

Could AS wear a KK wig?

fyp

Will a monkey do?

There must be one or two at Man City who won't get games as the spending continues?

Which young PL guns should/could we try and pinch?

Don't mind the wait as long as things are right from the very start.

What personal attacks? Liquidcack. How about that for a personal attack? [wink']

Keegan didn't abandon the club, he was forced out by Ashley. Had this argument before, he walked out on us. Not for the first time either. Well, all your current effort means is you've failed to learn anything from this previous argument you had assuming someone of intelligence tried to get the obvious into your heed. Fact is, any manager worthy of the name is not going to be happy without control over which players come in and which players go out. The club is in my blood but I'd walk away if I was working under those conditions. Only a spineless tw*t wouldn't and only a moron would expect someone to work under those conditions. Cheers Think it needs putting in simpler terms.

I'm a chameleon it's alright.

Keegan didn't abandon the club, he was forced out by Ashley. Had this argument before, he walked out on us. Not for the first time either. If only there was some way of killing you with my mind.

Will AS is interested in the job or he wouldn't be hanging around....So this time and without question it is down to Ashley. I hope to god he has learned something over the last 2 years.

This is exactly what people were saying when they claimed any new owner or Board would automatically be better than the previous one. It was said many times that it would make no sense for anyone to take over the club and not invest in improving the team. After all, if a new owner didn't invest in the team how would that person get any return on their investment? So, ambition to challenge at the top by investing in the team was taken for granted by many people. Having assumed this was automatic they then said that we'd do great because any new owner/Board simply had to be more competent than the shower of plebs previously running the club. The club would definitely march onward and upward. Well it hasn't worked out that way and that's because Ashley is incompetent when it comes to football. There's no reason to believe Ashley is going to do the right thing this time, in fact it'll be a major surprise if he does do the right thing, though to be honest, I'm concerned about how the "right thing" is defined. As supporters we see the right thing as appointing a decent manager and backing him, but I'm not convinced this is how Ashley sees things. In my opinion, the "right thing" to him was to keep the club for a few years and he'd make a killing on his investment simply by the normal economic growth in the country. I don't think he even considered relegation as a possibility, he is so dumb about football, so he thought we'd always be in the PL. Well he's been hit by the slump in the economy and by his own shit decisions that led to relegation. He had the chance to do something with a good manager when he appointed Keegan but he blew it by not backing him, the scenario above would explain why. Why should it be assumed he's going to back Shearer now? Its not assumed anything HTL, what I am saying is "in my opinion" appointing Shearer and backing him is the only real option. But I can't see Shearer signing if he isn't going to be financially backed, and be the bloke who makes the decisions. And if Ashley cannot sign Shearer is any other decent manager going to consider the job as they will have seen what has gone on before and presume that if they take the job it is going to be more of the same. Any anti-KK rants left in you? What are you tweeting on about? I seem to recall YOU being one of MA's biggest defenders. Am I wrong?

This is exactly what people were saying when they claimed any new owner or Board would automatically be better than the previous one. It was said many times that it would make no sense for anyone to take over the club and not invest in improving the team. After all, if a new owner didn't invest in the team how would that person get any return on their investment? So, ambition to challenge at the top by investing in the team was taken for granted by many people. Having assumed this was automatic they then said that we'd do great because any new owner/Board simply had to be more competent than the shower of plebs previously running the club. The club would definitely march onward and upward. Well it hasn't worked out that way and that's because Ashley is incompetent when it comes to football. There's no reason to believe Ashley is going to do the right thing this time, in fact it'll be a major surprise if he does do the right thing, though to be honest, I'm concerned about how the "right thing" is defined. As supporters we see the right thing as appointing a decent manager and backing him, but I'm not convinced this is how Ashley sees things. In my opinion, the "right thing" to him was to keep the club for a few years and he'd make a killing on his investment simply by the normal economic growth in the country. I don't think he even considered relegation as a possibility, he is so dumb about football, so he thought we'd always be in the PL. Well he's been hit by the slump in the economy and by his own shit decisions that led to relegation. He had the chance to do something with a good manager when he appointed Keegan but he blew it by not backing him, the scenario above would explain why. Why should it be assumed he's going to back Shearer now? Its not assumed anything HTL, what I am saying is "in my opinion" appointing Shearer and backing him is the only real option. But I can't see Shearer signing if he isn't going to be financially backed, and be the bloke who makes the decisions. And if Ashley cannot sign Shearer is any other decent manager going to consider the job as they will have seen what has gone on before and presume that if they take the job it is going to be more of the same. Any anti-KK rants left in you?

This is exactly what people were saying when they claimed any new owner or Board would automatically be better than the previous one. It was said many times that it would make no sense for anyone to take over the club and not invest in improving the team. After all, if a new owner didn't invest in the team how would that person get any return on their investment? So, ambition to challenge at the top by investing in the team was taken for granted by many people. Having assumed this was automatic they then said that we'd do great because any new owner/Board simply had to be more competent than the shower of plebs previously running the club. The club would definitely march onward and upward. Well it hasn't worked out that way and that's because Ashley is incompetent when it comes to football. There's no reason to believe Ashley is going to do the right thing this time, in fact it'll be a major surprise if he does do the right thing, though to be honest, I'm concerned about how the "right thing" is defined. As supporters we see the right thing as appointing a decent manager and backing him, but I'm not convinced this is how Ashley sees things. In my opinion, the "right thing" to him was to keep the club for a few years and he'd make a killing on his investment simply by the normal economic growth in the country. I don't think he even considered relegation as a possibility, he is so dumb about football, so he thought we'd always be in the PL. Well he's been hit by the slump in the economy and by his own shit decisions that led to relegation. He had the chance to do something with a good manager when he appointed Keegan but he blew it by not backing him, the scenario above would explain why. Why should it be assumed he's going to back Shearer now? Last chance saloon??

I am sure there are a lot of legal implications to draft as AS would want watertight guarantees. If these guarantees are about money to spend on transfers and / or how many top earners have to be axed, I can't see what Ashley can do at this point. It's all going to depend on who is wanted by other clubs, who is available, what salaries they want, and what transfer fees they attract or demand. If there's cost cutting to be done, I don't see how Ashley at this stage can say yes, players a, b and c can definitely stay, and you'll have x amount of money to spend. It boils down to trust, and if Shearer doesn't trust Ashley, then they can't work together and he should go. It worries me that we're going down the Keegan road again, with a patched-up agreement which each one will interpret in their own way. It also worries me that so many seem to be falling into the syndrome that Matthew Syed was talking about in that article (not that I agree with absolutely everything he said) ie an unquestioning loyalty to the local hero and demonising anyone who doesn't meet their demands. I'd like Shearer to have the job, but not at any price. At the end of the day, it's the owner / board who is responsible for the financial side. AShley has previous, KK and Shearer are pretty much trusted as they have shown in the past. We have seen nothing from Ashley since he took over to suggest otherwise. I agree, but that's missing the point (as I interpreted it anyway). If we're stuck with Ashley, it'd be better for the club to have someone who can work under him. If Shearer can't do that (wouldn't blame him tbh) then it will be better for the club (presuming we can't get MA to f*ck off) to get the best option who can. So long as that option isn't the cupcake dog. But who can work under him? Can anyone? The secretary?

Lloyd? Lloydinho to you.

Lloyd?

I am sure there are a lot of legal implications to draft as AS would want watertight guarantees. If these guarantees are about money to spend on transfers and / or how many top earners have to be axed, I can't see what Ashley can do at this point. It's all going to depend on who is wanted by other clubs, who is available, what salaries they want, and what transfer fees they attract or demand. If there's cost cutting to be done, I don't see how Ashley at this stage can say yes, players a, b and c can definitely stay, and you'll have x amount of money to spend. It boils down to trust, and if Shearer doesn't trust Ashley, then they can't work together and he should go. It worries me that we're going down the Keegan road again, with a patched-up agreement which each one will interpret in their own way. It also worries me that so many seem to be falling into the syndrome that Matthew Syed was talking about in that article (not that I agree with absolutely everything he said) ie an unquestioning loyalty to the local hero and demonising anyone who doesn't meet their demands. I'd like Shearer to have the job, but not at any price. At the end of the day, it's the owner / board who is responsible for the financial side. Fair post. I would like the best possible/realistic manager for the job, it seems right now that is probably AS. The way things have gone we're going to have to take a semi-gamble on a lot of things.

Beye Taylor Bassong Ricky. Probably the kiss of death.