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We really need to do an Arsenal right now...and this is why I have been encouraged by Roeders desire to emulate Wenger.

We essentially need to bring in young up and coming players who are still fairly priced and who would not yet be in a position to command large salaries. We also have to really work hard this summer to discover some players for ourselves and be able to evaluate talent on our own and not have to pay top money for players other teams have discovered. We need to discover our own Chimbondas basically!

If we can do this we will be fine and we will be able to build up the squad without spending a ridiculous amount of money which will be good for us financially.

This summer there will be a number of very impressive strikers available, quite a few of who have premiership experience and who have proved they can produe in this league.

 

If the situation with Owen becomes a problem and a distraction and there are willing buyers, will it be a mistake to hold onto him, knowing he will not extend his contract and therefore we miss out on the chance to replace him with some very good players as he will then likely leave next summer anyway?

 

Another side to this is the fact that the first three strikers mentioned in this thread are almost certain to gel better with Martins as their styles of play match Martins' better. Also, these three have showed they can definitely get it done in this league.

 

Can we afford to miss out on this opportunity???

 

 

I'd be pleased to sign any of them - but ar'n't our biggest problems at the back.I think they want solving first.

Goes without saying that we will be sorting out pur defence this summer. However I am talking about Owen perhaps leaving and the options we would have to replace him with the money from his sale, as we would definitely have to replace him if he left, along with getting some defenders in.

Love Tevez too.

Robson enquired about him when he was manager and Roeder did enquire about Tevez last summer after the world cup but was told he wasn't for sale! So Tevez will at least be familiar with us. The great thing is he has also shown such committment despite being in a team that isn't going anywhere, so it is unlikely he would snub us unless a really top club came in for him.

Maybe if Owen leaves Glenn will be back in for Tevez? Although I can't help but think it is more likely we will go for a bigger striker with pace if Owen goes...so most likely Bent.

Bent and Martins would be something though...

This summer there will be a number of very impressive strikers available, quite a few of who have premiership experience and who have proved they can produe in this league.

If the situation with Owen becomes a problem and a distraction and there are willing buyers, will it be a mistake to hold onto him, knowing he will not extend his contract and therefore we miss out on the chance to replace him with some very good players as he will then likely leave next summer anyway?

Another side to this is the fact that the first three strikers mentioned in this thread are almost certain to gel better with Martins as their styles of play match Martins' better. Also, these three have showed they can definitely get it done in this league.

Can we afford to miss out on this opportunity???

The reason I think it would work is because Roeder isn't a very strong personality and neither is he egotistical. I recall how much praise and credit he gave Shearer when Shearer assisted him last season, even though Roeder himself was actually the caretaker manager.

Therefore I think Roeder will be accepting of Houlliers contributions regarding actual team matters and together they would get the best out of the team.

In my opinion Roeder's strongest point is the fact that he is actually an alright sort of bloke and isn't really pig headed. He knows he has been very fortunate to land the Newcastle job considering what he went through and so i think he would not be adverse to workiing alongside Houllier no matter how much Houllier might want to contribute to first team matters.

Would be an outstandingly good move that would definitely work I think.

Get Tevez in and wave little Mickey bye bye...

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Thread of the century this.

Says we were carrying 3 or 4 players today.

Who do you think they were?

I would think he was referring to N'Zogbia, Emre and maybe Moore...can't imagine who else he was referring to. Can't have included any of his golden boys like Duff, Butt, Carr or Solano.

Roeder was idiotic today and here's why...

We all noticed that when Dyer went off in the last match and N'Zogbia was played off Martins it didn't work so why start the game like this today???

Martins is so much better when he has another striker with a bit of stature alongside him, because he doesn't have to waste so much energy fighting bigger guys to try and hold the ball up. Roeder should have had Luque or Carroll up there with him to start. N'Zogbia was the worst option because unlike Dyer, who will occassionally, maintain good posession of the ball, N'Zobia hardly ever does this in the middle of the park as his first touch isn't great.

N'Zogbia has to understand that he is best as a winger where his greatest strength, his direct and aggressive running at players, can be used to best effect.

It is going to be fascinating to see who Roeder intends to get rid off this summer should he stay. I believe Emre & N'Zogbia will be amongst those he has recently suggested should move on.

Could it be the Director of Football position we have courted Sven for?

I wouldn't be at all surprised...I think Freddy is happy having his 'adopted Geordie' Glenn Roeder as manager and rather than get rid of him, irregardless of how the team performs, I could see Freddy trying out a DoF to gove Roeder some assistance and support.

I recall Roeder saying that he thought the Director of Football position was an important and valuable one as management has become a very big job in football today.

Also, with our scouting network and what appears to be Glenn's lack of contacts in worldwide football, I wouldn't be surprised if a DoF is something we are looking at.

Could this have been the role we wnated Houllier to take up? Could this be what the club might want Sven for? Lastly, do you think Freddy is even having a pop at convincing Sir Bobby Robson to take up this task?

I think hiring someone legitimate and with a decent profile in the DoF position would be worthwhile and would be better than carrying on as we are at the moment.

What do you think? And if you are in favour of this who would you like to see in the DoF position?

"Transformers...more than meets the eye"

Might be where Sven is going to end up!

I know not a lot of people are impressed with Roeder at the moment, me being one of them! However, people keep goign on about the under 25 thing...I'm sure Roeder didn't mean he would never sign anyone over this age. I think what he meant was that large amounts of money shuldn't be spent on these kinds of players.

For example Campbell was on a free but he would have commanded significantly  high wages especially if he knew we were interested in him.

I have no doubt we will be looking at bringing in a top left back. if we are looking at the likes of this guy it will mean that Babayaro won't evem be kept around as backup.

It's such a shame Roeder has made a mess of things lately because it actually looks like we were prepared to sort out the squad nice and early this summer.

Oh well...

Stunningly accurate.

If Roeder had any sense he would play a 4-3-3 with Butt as the defensive midfielder, and Emre and Parker given more freedom to move forward when they can.

Then play Duff, Martins and Dyer as the front three. Yes, yes we all know Martins isn't a target man but I believe it will work better than any of the other rubbish Roeder has been peddling especially as he insists on playing Butt and Parker.

Besides Chelsea have occassionally played the 4-3-3 with Shevchenko as the striker and Martins is 10 times better at plating that role then Sheva and as long as Emre is on the field we will not be punting it up to Martins all game even if we might still do it occasionally.

4-3-3 for me. It's about time we tried this.

I for one am glad everyone has been passed fit today i.e. Moore and Carr because Roeder will have to make the decision of who to pick from a fully fit squad again and the pressure will be on him to get it right.

Will he learn from his mistakes? Or will he just pick all the senior players i.e. Carr, Solano, Butt and Parker just so he can keep them happy and because it is always easier to drop the youngsters.

For all his threats and big talk Roeder has only ever dropped youngsters which is easy to do and Bramble who was easy to drop because he is such a scape goat anyway.

The question is can he drop the likes of Carr, Parker, Butt, Solano or even Dyer in order to make us more effective?

We will learn a lot about the man this weekend...

He had a full team for the first time last weekend and he couldn't handle it. Will he learn from his mistake and be gutsy enough to make the right calls this time around irregardless of reputations or not?

I for one cannot wait to find out!

Allardyce for me.

 

I wanted him when Bobby Robson went.

 

I like Pardew though, I think he could do better things.

 

 

 

Pardew is a strange one, last season West Ham were excellent and he had them playing really good football too, none of this long ball rubbish you see promoted teams playing but a good, pass and move game. This season he just couldn't get them going, he also left out Carlos Tevez for Bobby Zamora which is shocking when you think about it, he does seem to have Charlton on the right track now though.

 

Houllier would be my choice, Sven would be a good alternative as he's always impressed at club level, if we had to go down the British route I'd say Allardyce or Hughes, maybe even Coleman.

I would like Houllier too.

This is worrying because Roeder will only go and get rid of the wrong players.

Our problem with scoring goals clearly stems from the midfield of Parker and Butt but Roeder won't change that!

He will probably get rid of the likes of Emre, N'Zogbia and Dyer or something ridiculous like that!!! and leave us with the most uncreative and unexciting team ever!!!

Roeder out...

Probably came over to see Gooch too.

What sort of idiot plays two defensive midfielders at home to Man City? We should even have to play one at home to this lot, and he wonders why we don't create f*** all.

 

Roeder has never been good enough, glad some of you are opening your eyes to this.

The sad thing is that he hasn't even figured out Parker is a defensive midfielder...

Still thinks Parker will become our Gerrard. God help us.

We have had loads of injuries but the scary thing is judging by todays team selection with all of the players we had fit, we might actually be in the bottom five now if we had everyone but Owen and Ameobi fit all season.

Good point!

Quite a scary thought.

It really f****** pisses me off to know that there are good managers out there who would probably accept the Newcastle job if they were offered it, I dont believe that the position is a poison chalice, It wasnt for SBR because he is a good manager. Roeder doesnt have a clue, At first i didnt mind him so much because he came across as a decent bloke but over the season ive had to listen to his poor excuses and the way he blames everyone and everything except himself, i cant stand the t*** now. Its pointless sacking Roeder now, He should go at the end of the season. FS should sound out a manager now so that he would have chance to watch the last 7 games and prepare for the transfer window, f*** Roeder he doesnt have to know and then after the last game call him into FS office and give him his marching orders.

 

All we need is a manager who knows what he is doing, Surely that aint asking for much. I do believe that with a good manager we have the resources to be a decent club.

Ranieri was actually desperate for the job and was baffled as to why he hadn't heard back from Shepherd. Houllier talked of wanting to come back to the premiership and seemed to be genuinely interested in the job. Unfortunately Shepherd turned his nose up at them despit their premiership success, as a matter of fact a lot of fans did too.

I would have gladly had either one of them back then and I still would.

 

Are you saying I broke a rule?

 

I didn't break no rule buddy...

 

I didn't say that you had broke any.

Thanks for clearing that up...

f****** tumor boy

 

please ban this junkhead

 

Yup, he just crossed the line.

 

No excuse for that irregardless of what Roeder does.

 

He hasn't broken any rules from what I can see, unlike some.

Are you saying I broke a rule?

I didn't break no rule buddy...

f****** tumor boy

 

please ban this junkhead

Yup, he just crossed the line.

No excuse for that irregardless of what Roeder does.

Not being funny here, but I would actually have Aidy Boothroyd or Steve Coppell over Roeder...