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Scott Parker was absolutely awful and one of our worst players last night!

 

How anyone can say he was one of our best is unbelievable...

 

Can't think of one thing he did right...too careleass and reckless a player. Looks like a championship player at the moment, all graft and no guile.

 

PATHETIC!!!

 

Worse of all he's our captain and it's his responsibility to lift the team and he flunked at that as well.

 

He is one unbelievably limited football player.

 

I'm not defending his ability, although some of the stick he gets is unbelievable but he never stopped running last night and that resulted in one clear cut chance (he should have done better from) and he was possibly also unlucky to get a goal chalked off right at the end. Who played better in your opinion?

It's so sad because even when he does get in those positions you know he will never have the composure to do anything of note.

It breaks my heart trust me, because he is a quality guy, but I can't help having a go because he is totally ineffective. Just think about how easily we were opened up last night, and this was with essentially two players who are suppossedly good at breaking up play sitting in our midfield. So not only were we awful attacking wise, but we were awful defensively! It doesn't make any sense!

You ask who was better, but this makes no difference to me because I feel Parker is this ineefective all of the time. Apart from a few crunching tackles he does absolutely nothing...

It hurts to say it because I really wanted him to do well but it's the truth.

Scott Parker was absolutely awful and one of our worst players last night!

How anyone can say he was one of our best is unbelievable...

Can't think of one thing he did right...too careleass and reckless a player. Looks like a championship player at the moment, all graft and no guile.

PATHETIC!!!

Worse of all he's our captain and it's his responsibility to lift the team and he flunked at that as well.

He is one unbelievably limited football player.

Still no tangible suggestions for manager I see...

We are so screwed.

Shearer as manager and sir bobby as director of football would suit me, never happen though especially the latter !!

Maybe even Roeder as DOF, I think he would do a good job in that role.

Shearer in my opinion keeps everyone on their toes and has the character to let Glenn know who needs to be sat down if they are not playing well enough. He is cut from the same cloth as Keane in that sense. He is absolutely no nonsense and the players would know they couldn't afford to slip up.

 

I believe we have all maybe underestimated his contribution to our success at the end of last season. I think it woul dbe good to have him back in the mix in whatever capacity!

 

At this rate he might very well be our manager!

 

I wouldn't have been too enthusiastic about this last summer but I have seen the light!

 

 

Didn't you just say in another thread that no manager could work with these players?

I said there was no pioint in blaming Roeder as everything from the manager to the players is a mess.

A character like Shearer would be good for us and along with some better players we would be in much better shape.

Taylor and Huntingtons awful starts affected Bramble, as he then tried to do too much to help them out!

Shearer in my opinion keeps everyone on their toes and has the character to let Glenn know who needs to be sat down if they are not playing well enough. He is cut from the same cloth as Keane in that sense. He is absolutely no nonsense and the players would know they couldn't afford to slip up.

I believe we have all maybe underestimated his contribution to our success at the end of last season. I think it woul dbe good to have him back in the mix in whatever capacity!

At this rate he might very well be our manager!

I wouldn't have been too enthusiastic about this last summer but I have seen the light!

Any suggestions on who we ought to bring in though?

Just a few months ago some were clamouring for the likes of Stuart Pearce and Martin O'neill!!!

I honestly can't think of any managers who I feel 100% certain will come in and definitely transform things...

Roeder's contract is up right? Was it just one year?

If so what the hell do we do? If we get rid, it will mean bringing in another manager who will probably need a bit of time to evaluate the team and decide what players he wants etc etc. So in effect next season might pretty much be a wash out too!

If we keep Roeder he will have to shoulder the responsibility of totally re-building this team and we don't know if he will have the clout or the pull to get it done. also, will Shepherd have enough confidence in him to back him completely?

This summer could be terrifying...

You are all totally deluded if you think a top manager could come in and make Titus Bramble, Stephen Carr, Huntington, Ramage, Taylor, Babayaro a good team.  Personally, I'm past caring if Roeder is sacked or not.  But you are all pretending this is a good side and that - despite all evidence to the contrary for about 4 or 5 years - they are ready to rocket up the table when Hitzfeld or Hiddink or whoever rides in on his white horse.  The players aren't there at the moment

 

 

Even when they win they look poor most of the time.  This magical turnaround under a new manager theory is based on the notion that players like Parker & Dyer will suddenly pretend its 2001 or 2002 again and return to form they haven't found consistently since then.  And

A man after my own heart...

OUR PLAYERS STINK!!!

I really thought nobody would be thick enough to come out and defend him after that display. Evidently I was wrong.

My point was that you could blame Roeder all you want but the actual team of players also needs a lot of work as well.

We are a poor team throughout, from top to bottom.

Me thick? Your having a laugh...

I is propa educated dude!

That's my point! Solano has to be brilliant every game or it looks like the whole team can't pass the ball!

Every good thing comes from Solano or Emre when he is fit to play!

Did you guys not see Roeder shouting at them to play the ball along the floor in the first half??? The players were incapable of doing it!

I respect Parker for his heart and determination, but I have rarely ever seen a player lack so much composure in the attacking third. He looks a shockingly limited footballer!

I'm nnot sure any manager on Earth could have done better with that team...

To make matters worse, when things go bad we beome so withdrawn and we play scared. We have no bottle as a team.

The team needs so much work done on it and the players we have to bring in need to be first team players who have achieved things and are very confident. I'm not sure if Roeder's youth policy will be appropriate at this point in time.

He needs to be careful...

In our whole squad we have only 2 players who can pass the ball consistently well, when on form, and therefore positively affect the game going forward.

Emre and Solano.

Nuff said...

Roeder's biggest test will be getting in more quality players who can do this and who also have the character to galvanize the team. Our captain can't lift the team with his play enough.

We completely bottled it tonight and not a single one of the players could take responsibility and get our players going...

:'(

You really think it would be that ridiclous?

 

I think at this moment in time you are seriously over rating Adriano and underating Newcastle!

 

If Tottenham could land Berbatov then I think we could definitely get Adriano!

 

All the top clubs would want him??? Like who???

 

There are a lot of top strikers who have moved ahead of him recently as far as reputations go and so I don't think he will be a priority for many top clubs.

 

If we strike early (which is damn near impossible!) we could get him! Trust me!

 

Im convinced

I thought that might do the trick.

You really think it would be that ridiclous?

I think at this moment in time you are seriously over rating Adriano and underating Newcastle!

If Tottenham could land Berbatov then I think we could definitely get Adriano!

All the top clubs would want him??? Like who???

There are a lot of top strikers who have moved ahead of him recently as far as reputations go and so I don't think he will be a priority for many top clubs.

If we strike early (which is damn near impossible!) we could get him! Trust me!

Considering his current situation I think a £10 million price tag would be just about right.

Martins wasn't dropped because he didn't play well with Adriano! Martins was never a first team player there. In the ultra defensive, every body sit back Italian league, Martins wasn't very well suited.

Adriano and Martins in the premiership would be a whole different story...

Adriano has absolutely fallen off of the footballing map at the moment...

Hardly ever mentioned anymore or linked with the top clubs and doesn't seem to be getting a game for Inter or Brazil either!

Now technically he ain't the greatest in the world and he is very left-footed, but I think the one league where he will excel will be the premiership due to his pace, power and physical play. He would be a beast in the premiership as I always recall his performance in the confederations cup where he tossed Huth around like a rag doll!

The Italian league is the absolute worst league for him as he doesn't have the level of quality needed to be succesful against the defences there.

So...turns out we need a target man, would you be happy if we put in a bid? What do you think our chances would be of landing him? Would he be happy to come to us? Please discuss...

Don't forget Oba could always have a word as well 

Thank God some people are honest enough to evaluate his actual gameplay and are not just blinded by their love for him!

You would have thought I had cursed the guys mother or something!!!

He just always seems to be stumbling over or just about to stumble over when the ball is at his feet...

Infuriating...

No surprise there was a huge drop off in our level of play when Milner replaced the Sib.

In the lead up to the penalty their left back was given acres of space to come forward with no pressure and play the ball that opened us up and directly led to Taylor handling the ball!

I was screaming at Milner to close him down but for some reason he was just backing off him???!!!

Milner didn't add a single thing to the game today despite coming on with about 20 mins remaining.

I still don't see what all the fuss is about...

James Milner.....

What's all this about blame???

I'm just saying what is the simple fact, which is that he lacks quality!

Despite his greatest efforts...

Ok, What exactly are Martins strengths? Heard he was immense today.... What exactly are Solano's strengths? As we seem to be ignoring any games these players have done well in and all that.

Whoever told you he was immense today lied to your face.

Same old Milner, appears to be working hard without getting anything done!

Dribble moves that don't come off...bad touches...bad passes.....

Apart from the occassional great shot or cross he is not a consistent threat despite the effort he always appears to give.

Definitely shouldn't be in the first team.

I would rather have someone like Benayoun in his position anyday, who will consistently produce REAL quality!

I ask again?

What exactly are this man's strengths!!!

Lord have mercy! A serviceable player but that is about it. Not sure if he will ever be good enough to be a mainstay in our first team Might be more of a backup player for us.

Milner has been one of our better players this season. I'm surprised threads like this are still knocking about.

 

But football is all about opinions, even total dogshit ones. 

 

i think milner has probably been our best player overall this season but i can actually see his point and think its far from dog s***! he is inconsistent with his crossing and isnt sure sometimes whether to cross or take a man on! his biggest asset by far is his workrate. i do however think that at his age he is an excellent prospect and has plenty of time to gain experience.

 

So he's 21 and learning his game, no need for another thread pulling him down tbh.

 

 

Hardly pulling him down am I mate.....

Please calm down.