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How many examples are there of us paying more for a replacement than we got for the player sold? With players Ashley can justify a few quid more too, as he can potentially recoup it. He knows whatever he pays a manager he's not getting back. Shouldn't the question be how many have been replaced with better, rather than how much we paid for them? It would be if there were better cheaper managers available. A new manager wouldn't be financed by sacking Pardew, it would be additional cost. I always wondered about the confused message of our transfer policy (keep the manager out, makes it easier to sack him) and then giving the manager an 8 year deal, making it harder to sack him. Are there not like? Not sure why you think being cheaper is an essential requirement - notice you ignored Dave's question about Ashley spending £20m in January. When has he done that before? I've not seen any more recent salaries since this... http://www.trophy4toon.co.uk/index.php/premier-league-salaries/ You tell me who's be willing to come for less pay than Chelsea's fitness coach gets. I hadn't seen Dave's question before you asked. Ashley's never spent £20m in January before. That suggests to me that he took the vblame for the lack of spending in the Summer though...or he would have sacked Pardew rather than give him that cash. He had to do one or the other to ensure the windfall next seasons TCV deal will bring. So why did he buy Cisse last January? He didn't need to do that did he? He spent £8m on a player who they had asked £14m for in Summer and we had walked away from despite having £35m to replace the player sold. Got a bargain.

How many examples are there of us paying more for a replacement than we got for the player sold? With players Ashley can justify a few quid more too, as he can potentially recoup it. He knows whatever he pays a manager he's not getting back. Shouldn't the question be how many have been replaced with better, rather than how much we paid for them? It would be if there were better cheaper managers available. A new manager wouldn't be financed by sacking Pardew, it would be additional cost. I always wondered about the confused message of our transfer policy (keep the manager out, makes it easier to sack him) and then giving the manager an 8 year deal, making it harder to sack him. Are there not like? Not sure why you think being cheaper is an essential requirement - notice you ignored Dave's question about Ashley spending £20m in January. When has he done that before? I've not seen any more recent salaries since this... http://www.trophy4toon.co.uk/index.php/premier-league-salaries/ You tell me who'd be willing to come for less pay than Chelsea's fitness coach gets. I hadn't seen Dave's question before you asked. Ashley's never spent £20m in January before. That suggests to me that he took the vblame for the lack of spending in the Summer though...or he would have sacked Pardew rather than give him that cash. He had to do one or the other to ensure the windfall next seasons TCV deal will bring.

How many examples are there of us paying more for a replacement than we got for the player sold? With players Ashley can justify a few quid more too, as he can potentially recoup it. He knows whatever he pays a manager he's not getting back. Shouldn't the question be how many have been replaced with better, rather than how much we paid for them? It would be if there were better cheaper managers available. A new manager wouldn't be financed by sacking Pardew, it would be additional cost. I always wondered about the confused message of our transfer policy (keep the manager out, makes it easier to sack him) and then giving the manager an 8 year deal, making it harder to sack him.

How many examples are there of us paying more for a replacement than we got for the player sold? With players Ashley can justify a few quid more too, as he can potentially recoup it. He knows whatever he pays a manager he's not getting back.

I went for the: 'Why in 2.5 years at Newcastle have you not been able to implement a style of play that means regardless of the personnel available the players will be comfortable & familiar playing a style that best suits their abilities?' (or something along those lines) Can you name the last Newcastle manager to do this? Irrespective of how shit or inexperienced your players are, why don't they play well?

I've been saying since the start of last season, I don't think they'd sack him even if we went down again. They see him as a good fit for them.

Utter WUM. Not worth talking to. Which of Ashley's other appointments proved more succesful?

No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good. Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them. Eh, you said before they're mainly relegation fodder. So sign a striker and a CB, and where do you think Pardew will have them finish? And presumably the football will be positive and attacking? Mid -table at best. We're a poorly run club from the top. Ashley has a yes man in charge of team affairs. Someone who won't be critical of him. Who will take the players he's given and never question it. It's that sort of thing that players lament once they see how it goes. Players bust a gut to finish in the top 5. They secure a massive tv cash windfall......and then they see a summer investment of £2m. that's more disheartening than anything Pardew can do. I don't think the players in 2009 or 2013 are relegation fodder, but both of them have seen players tire of the lack of ambition at the top and look less and less interested on playing for the club...or the manager, no matter who he may be. Part of that ambition is the manager, who you have shown you're fully behind. Oh no sorry, you say he isn't good enough but don't want him replaced with a better one. Almost there. I'd have him replaced with a better manager tomorrow. Only an idiot wouldn't. I don't buy that Pardew is the worst manager that Ashley could appoint though. Based on several previous appointments he is the very best. Didn't you just say that some would take Redknapp over Pardew. Are you suggesting that Pardew is a better manager than Redknapp? 'Arry who's only won 4 out of 25 at QPR despite spending more than us in January? Yeah, I wouldn't consider that better.

We know Ashley's previous too. Amazed people forget so easily.

No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good. Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them. Eh, you said before they're mainly relegation fodder. So sign a striker and a CB, and where do you think Pardew will have them finish? And presumably the football will be positive and attacking? Mid -table at best. We're a poorly run club from the top. Ashley has a yes man in charge of team affairs. Someone who won't be critical of him. Who will take the players he's given and never question it. It's that sort of thing that players lament once they see how it goes. Players bust a gut to finish in the top 5. They secure a massive tv cash windfall......and then they see a summer investment of £2m. that's more disheartening than anything Pardew can do. I don't think the players in 2009 or 2013 are relegation fodder, but both of them have seen players tire of the lack of ambition at the top and look less and less interested on playing for the club...or the manager, no matter who he may be. Part of that ambition is the manager, who you have shown you're fully behind. Oh no sorry, you say he isn't good enough but don't want him replaced with a better one. Almost there. I'd have him replaced with a better manager tomorrow. Only an idiot wouldn't. I don't buy that Pardew is the worst manager that Ashley could appoint though. Based on several previous appointments he is the very best.

No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good. Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them. Eh, you said before they're mainly relegation fodder. So sign a striker and a CB, and where do you think Pardew will have them finish? And presumably the football will be positive and attacking? Mid -table at best. We're a poorly run club from the top. Ashley has a yes man in charge of team affairs. Someone who won't be critical of him. Who will take the players he's given and never question it. It's that sort of thing that players lament once they see how it goes. Players bust a gut to finish in the top 5. They secure a massive tv cash windfall......and then they see a summer investment of £2m. that's more disheartening than anything Pardew can do. I don't think the players in 2009 or 2013 are relegation fodder, but both of them have seen players tire of the lack of ambition at the top and look less and less interested in playing for the club...or the manager, no matter who he may be.

QPR spent more than that in January and they're 19th in the form league, so it's better than 'arry could manage. People would probably take him over Pardew too.

No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good. Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them.

I'm on record calling Pardew a cunt. We were relegation bait before Pardew and we will be after though. Ashley is the common denominator. Ashley is a tool granted, but after the biggest spend of any team in the January window, he can hardly take any blame for the appalling showing since then. You can always gauge how good a Manager is when the chips are down. It's about how they react to improve in areas you're struggling in. Lets look at some of the issues. Passing is still fucking shocking overall. Corners are, well I think we all know. Movement off the ball is still too static and easy to read. Lack of pressure on the ball. I could go on, but as not one of those areas have improved over the course of the season, I think it pretty much spells out he's not the right man for the job. We have improved since the window closed and the show hasn't been so appalling since then. We're 10th in the table on games since the window closed. It was the awful run before the window that fucked our season.

I'm asking the question of people who want to have their cake (we're capable of so much, we take the lead we look good, the players are all mint) and eat it (we create nothing whatsoever haven't put in one good performance and it's all down to Pardoowho tells them to stop playing so well at half time). It's spot on to say we create chances but don't score them. We're 8th in the table for shots on target. We're 19th for goals per shot on target. http://www.sotdoc.co.uk/updated-shot-on-target-table-i-english-premier-league/

I'm on record calling Pardew a cunt. We were relegation bait before Pardew and we will be after though. Ashley is the common denominator. The squad isn't relegation bait though, so your point is nonsensical. You've claimed that the players are "wilting" - how is that Mike Ashley's fault? For someone who hates Pardew, you're doing a good job of arguing against every point made about his poor management. Why? The year we were relegated Shola made 22 appearances. He's had 35 this season. Is that improvement? Haver you compared the starting 11 for each season? Coloccini, STaylor and Gutierrez were all in the first 11 back then. Is Perch that much better than Butt? Santon miles aheaf of Enrique? Simpson better than Beye? Williamson better than Bassong? Krul that much superior to Given? Marveaux a better PL player than Duff?

I'm on record calling Pardew a cunt. We were relegation bait before Pardew and we will be after though. Ashley is the common denominator.

It would be funny if we do sack him just to see the reaction on here to how bad his replacement is. Shudder to think. Glenn Hoddle and his faith healer maybe.

Horse p*ss. So would you demonstrate against a new manager from the get go if he was unproven s**** like Pardew? What are you on about? You claimed "If (as we could fear) a replacement takes us down the fans that pushed for his sacking will be to blame for making his position untenable" and that is total bullshit. If fans get Pardew sacked and Ashley screws up then that's down to Ashley and nobody else. We have seen the quality of Manager that Pardew is capable of appointing though. What makes you think he will do better than his best appointment yet?

So Pardew is capable of lining the team up to attack, to create chances, to take a lead...but then after we do it successfully he tells the players to stop doing it? That doesn't make any sense, but suggests he's more capable than many on here will accept at least for starting games if not finishing them off. Is it not more reasonable to suppose that Pardew lines them up in the effective fashion people describe....but that the players wilt and throw Pardews instructions out if the window?

Horse piss. So would you demonstrate against a new manager from the get go if he was unproven shite like Pardew?

Just.... Wow. So you loathe Pardew, but are so negative that you don't want him sacked because of a fear of someone EVEN WORSE coming in? I'm just incredulous at that. If something's shit, it's shit. If something could be better, we should hope it gets better. Not worry that it might get worse. That's exactly like Pardew defending a 0-0 draw, worried that we might concede instead of trying to score at the other end. How can you loathe him? He's basically you. Pardew is more capable than Kinnear or Shearer. He's on a par with Hughton. He offers a better working relationship with the chairman than Keegan. He has been Ashley's best appointment. I'm not going to demand Ashley have another go at fucking things up. If (as we could fear) a replacement takes us down the fans that pushed for his sacking will be to blame for making his position untenable. Ashley's to blame for Pardew. If he improves on him champion. I'm not gonna give the fucker any excuses.

I repeat the promise to get my arse out in Fenwicks window if Ashley shows that kind of ambition...and Rafa agrees to work under him.

Pardew Love? Did you read my answers to Wullie's questions? I've loathed Pardew since the day he was announced. The day we appoint a more capable manager I'll be delighted. Don't see it happening while Ashley is there though.

Never said that though did I? All started from the comment that the players only do as they're told and so they are blameless. Utter bollocks.