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It was baseless to say we create no chances. I'm not saying we overrun teams and create chance after chance. But we scored 2 and had one disallowed yesterday that could easily have been given. So we do make the opportunities. We didn't even create our goals though, QPR did. So Jonas gets no credit for chasing down on the second. Ben Arfa no credit for making a nuisance of himself on their box for the pen...or putting it away with aplomb...or Debuchy for the excellent cross onto Cisse's bonce for his power head to be disallowed?

I'd invite everyone on here looking for protest to start the chant at the game. Raise it up the flag pole and see who salutes. I reckon you'll be largely on your own....unless we're 3 or 4 down at that point.

It was baseless to say we create no chances. I'm not saying we overrun teams and create chance after chance. But we scored 2 and had one disallowed yesterday that could easily have been given. So we do make the opportunities.

Even in the worst domination, suffered at the hands of Liverpool, we created opportunities. Perch missed a free header from 5 yards that would put us back in the running. Pardew can't put chances like that away for the players. Maybe don't play 3/4 defensive midfielders in the same game (at home!) then you wouldn't get James fucking Perch being the most advanced player missing easy chances than an attacking player would most likely bury. I picked the worst possible example of a game. The second worst would have been the mackems.... Mignolet making two stops to deny Papiss Cisse, one more cleared off the line and an errant linesman's flag denying our number nine a perfectly good goal.

So the players should be allowed to miss chances without examination but Pardew has to dominate the opposition for the full 90 minutes. Any endeavor from the opposition cannot be tolerated.

Even in the worst domination, suffered at the hands of Liverpool, we created opportunities. Perch missed a free header from 5 yards that would put us back in the running. Pardew can't put chances like that away for the players.

If your aim is to dominate games for 90 minutes you're living in cloud cuckoo land.

You have to keep perspective. Ridiculous to suggest we create no chances. Earlier in the thread I posted a compilation of .com waffle about the games we've performed quite well in over the past 4 months. Seems a majority of posters want to wallow in negativity.

Yes we do. For example. We had twice as many chances at Sunderland and an equalizer ruled out that was perfectly fine.

I don't really understand posts like this. Are you not able to judge for yourself from what you see on the field "which was the fluke"? I don't need a number on a league table to tell me that the way we play is not good enough and will not lead to consistently good results. My main issue through out this anti Pardew thing is less criticizing Pardew or even wanting him out, everyones entitled to their opinion etc etc. But rather how absolutely everything wrong is being put at his door and the players get off scot-free criticism wise. Obviously he's made mistakes but why aren't they taking their share of the blame for some gutless performances? And if you say its just down to Pardews negative tactics, don't they have minds of their own? I had a similar discussion with the wife last night after her new boss told her to adopt a fairly retarded approach where she works. She was furious about it. I told her to do what he says. If you do what the boss says and it doesn't work, it's his fault. If you do things your way and they don't work, you'll get bollocked. As an employee, which players are, that's the only way to behave and survive in a workplace - Do what the boss says. That way it's his fault when it goes tits up. Good advice. And I'm sure Pardew is telling the players to miss the majority of chances created and the officials to chalk off the rest even when they're perfectly good.

So I was right in the first place? It's irrelevant to the wider point I was making anyway like.

He scored 31 in 5 years at Bordeaux. If he is our second "dedicated" stiker I'll hold my hands up. what an idiot I am. ...but are you happy with Shola getting 35 appearances? and with this £1.2m man we've brought in to replace Ba, Ranger AND Shola?

We finished 5th last year and the extent of Ashley's ambition meant that the best player brought in was Vurnon Anita, not even a first teamer a year later. If Ashley is not swayed by a 5th place finish then there's not a great deal more Pardew could do to push for improvement. It was only the threat of relegation that forced Ashley to put his hand in his pocket in January......and even then he's happy to have Shola Ameobi as the second best dedicated striker at the club. Is Gouffran not a striker like? "dedicated" I don't see him as an out and out striker. Spends lots of time on the wing. His strike rate is very poor for a "dedicated" striker if you see him as that. Certainly no replacement for Ba.

We appointed Pardew at a time he had internationals like Ben Arfa, Tiote, Coloccini, Carroll, Gutierrez etc. By the same token we still have Perch, Simpson, Williamson, and Taylor in our top 11 starters for the season. We had them along with Nolan, Smith & Barton though so it's a bit of a moot point. Ben Arfa's leg was in 2 at the time. The argument is who Ashley deems fit to manage his international players. Whey Coloccini and Ben Arfa cost more than Cabaye and Sissoko, so I fail to see why appointing Pardew then was any less of a deriliction of those players.

...and Nolan has scored more goals for West Ham this year than any of our French internationals have managed.

We appointed Pardew at a time he had internationals like Ben Arfa, Tiote, Coloccini, Carroll, Gutierrez etc. By the same token we still have Perch, Simpson, Williamson, and Taylor in our top 11 starters for the season.

I'm not happy with it. I'm not happy with my small cock but I'm not going to chop the f***er off either. Tbf you can't replace your cock. That's the point of the analogy. I've as much faith in Ashley bringing in better than i have of my cock growing back.

Times haven't changed at all. We're in the same league position and we're more worried about relegation. We sold our best striker weeks after Pardew was appointed rather than offer him an improved deal, we sold our best striker in January rather than offer him an improved deal. We've never spent any more than £5m in any summer transfer window under Ashley since 2007. We've a net spent of £10m or thereabouts in each of the last 2 winter windows on bringing in 6 players. We buy players with resale value...who we can tie up on contracts and get a return on whenever we decide to let them go. We do not throw millions at managers that provide no compensation whatsoever.

Quick, someone set up a google map with all the golf courses on.

I'm not happy with it. I'm not happy with my small cock but I'm not going to chop the fucker off either.

The evidence of every appointment he has made previously, the 8 year contract he gave this no-mark and the story this morning that he will be here next year....despite several better manager leaving their current jobs or being available following relegation. Apart from that why are you confident Ashley has the ambition to bring in a proven manager?

Now my questions for you. What makes you think Mike Ashley has the wherewithal to bring in a manager who, with a neutral budget and one of the lowest salries in the league, can challenge for anything more than mid-table season after season?

I'll go with a neutral source. .com...... Aston Villa - Mike Dean calling time on a half that we didn't really want to end. Chelsea - [an] unprecedented afternoon of entertainment and endeavour served up by United's not-so-local heroes for 50,000 of the faithful, who had bought tickets before our spending spree. Their fortitude was to be richly rewarded.the interchangeability of Cisse, Gouffran and Sissoko was eye-catching. Tottenham - the display was largely encouraging and not the worst return from what was perhaps the most tricky of our remaining domestic fixtures Southampton - Pleasingly, we were able to follow up a midweek success in Europe with an equally notable domestic victory and scored four times in the Premier League for the first time since April 2011. The French enclave repaid their audience with further industrious displays across the field; the significant presence of Sissoko to the fore and Debuchy finding his feet. Très bien, as they say in Blakelaw. Swansea - Alan Pardew watched his side dominate possession. it would be unfair to criticise Pardew for sticking his with first XI until the late panic caused by going behind. Stoke - [After] enjoying plenty of possession, [the Stoke goal] came against the run of play but added a sense of urgency to Newcastle's efforts and they were soon level in memorable style through Cabaye. Wigan - A reinvigorated Magpies side began to push forward towards the away contingent after the break, soon doing enough to crank up the noise levels from that end of the ground. Normal service then looked to be restored when Davide Santon fired home a maiden strike for the club, the Italian pressing forward as United went looking for what seemed a fairly likely winner at that point. [in the end though] Pointless and luckless. Fulham - United dominated play more and more, but more intelligent approach work failed to bring a breakthrough, Shola heading wide from a perfect position on 77 minutes....the Gallowgate goal frame was twice struck again......Cisse's fine header brought a sprawling save out of Schwarzer. WBA - United should have gone in at half time well on the way to what would have been only their second away win of the season. However, they failed to do so courtesy of a glaring miss from Cisse, an unfortunate miskick by Steven Taylor and two Yohan Cabaye efforts - one narrowly off target and the other beaten out by goalkeeper Ben Foster.

We finished 5th last year and the extent of Ashley's ambition meant that the best player brought in was Vurnon Anita, not even a first teamer a year later. If Ashley is not swayed by a 5th place finish then there's not a great deal more Pardew could do to push for improvement. It was only the threat of relegation that forced Ashley to put his hand in his pocket in January......and even then he's happy to have Shola Ameobi as the second best dedicated striker at the club.

Man U have only taken 4 points from those games so far that may be but its not something to be boasting about Achieving better results than the top 3 managed is probably something to be pleased about, especially when you looked on your last legs conceding 9 at home in 2 games.