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Don't ever recall this happening before, though it may have....how many times have we seen players withdraw from Internationals and play on the following Saturday...hundreds, and yet the first time this is invoked we're on the wrong end of it....fucking typical

We've got our best squad in a decade. 3 centre backs , one of which is Williamson , says different. We have no depth.

It's not his fault that we are severely under strength. Injuries, suspensions and Mike Ashley not investing sufficiently have been the bigger reason we are having this awful start to the season.

There is uproar brewing amongst the fans and there'll be a bad reaction if we don't win today. There's little if any doubt about that. Uproar is a little strong like. People are disappointed, but generally out side of this forum every fan I know is pretty realistic about where we are. Not like Otter to convey exaggerated negativity.

And yet the only decent one they have is David Miliband. http://img.uefa.com/imgml/TP/players/3/2012/324x324/250003555.jpg My point still stands, if anything even more so.

And yet the only decent one they have is David Miliband.

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That's the one for me. Personally haven't got a problem with anybody that supports a successful team, not in the slightest. It's just the people that try and take the piss out of fans of less successful clubs that I really cannot stand. You find them all over the internet on various message boards. I really don't get that attitude whatsoever. And coincidentally describes 99.9 recurring if every Man Utd fan I've ever met. Yep even when they were shit in the 80s.

I'm second generation Geordie myself so of course I accept non Newcastle living supporters. But had we won countless trophies in the past 30 years, following Newcastle without any connection to Newcastle would have been glory hunting. But it is a hypothetical point. You're the one living the dream.

Pretty much this. He's just nowhere near the player he has been hyped to be. Precisely.

Typical glory hunter spiel I'm afraid. I've heard it countless times before. If your Ma had been watching Swindon, you would have been whimsically extolling the virtues of Paolo Di Canio, would you ? And just because you've learned the history of Manchester United doesn't make you any less of a glory hunter than the clueless one ? I'm sorry to have hijacked the thread guys, but this "love for all things Manchester United " shite gets right on my tits. As if its all trials and tribulations supporting them.

Linked to this, take Leon Osman. Hardly a spectacular player nor a top drawer player, but a fairly good one who is technically sound. Should have been in the squad a while ago but instead dross like Henderson are handed opportunities, and Gareth fucking Barry still gets picked. Osman however plays for Everton (read: not Man Utd, Liverpool etc). He is a better footballer than Tom Cleverley for example IMO. The latter however plays for Man Utd. Not saying we should be regularly playing Osman, but it's scandalous someone like him wasn't given an opportunity earlier. For me, our insistence on playing someone like Barry (of Man City royalty) over giving someone like Osman a chance earlier on sums up what's been wrong with this country's national team and set-up for quite a long time. Yep, totally agree. It's scandalous that Leon Osman has had to wait until now to play for England, whilst the likes of Barry, Cleverley and Carrick have been regularly playing. Good game by Caulker too. He is going to be a fixture for many years. I assume you mean Lampard or Gerrard, because Cleverly has what, five caps? No I don't, because Gerrard and Lampard are good players. Cleverley is only in the squad because he's a Manchester United squad member. He's in the squad because he's quality. In my eyes there's not a lot between him and Osman, except Cleverley is younger, fitter and faster. Your eyes are covered by red lensed spectacles then. Osman is a far superior player to Cleverly and should have been in the squad way before now. Or I just know my team extremely well. Cleverley is a stand out performer for us, and we're top of the Premier League. Also, I'm not sure if you're actually watching England or not, but Cleverley has been the best player on the pitch for England in most of the games he's played. He also just turned 23. For what it's worth too, I rate Osman pretty highly. I was delighted he received a call up. Has Cleverley really been best player on the pitch in most of the England games he's played ? Typical fucking glory hunting Man United "supporter" bollocks. Absolutely fucking ridiculous that you can still manage to squeeze in glory hunting because I rate Tom Cleverley. That just shows you're incredibly simple minded and as pathetic as actual glory hunters. I watched the games and seen how good he was. Other than that Google is your friend if you don't remember his two man of the matches in a row. England's best player against Sweden was Osman though, and Wilshere is the better talent. So you don't actually think that you are an actual glory hunter then??????? First off, congratulations on being the first person in two years to accuse me of being a glory hunters on this forum, even though I've explained how I wound up supporting Manchester United, and even though people from here know me in real life and know how much I love the club and football in general. No, I'm not a glory hunter. That's not what annoys me though, it's the fact that because I rate a young player, and because he plays for Man Utd, it's glory hunters nonsense. I'm on this forum because the majority don't spout that sort of rubbish when someone has an opinion. Dissect it, sure, tell me why he doesn't deserve to play for England, that's fine, but leave that other shit out. To you, I basically don't have a say because you'll either; a) agree or b) call me a glory hunter. I'm surrounded by Manchester United fans, at work, in the pub even a brother in law. Each and every one is a glory hunter. Some are old glory hunters descended from the Busby days. Some have parents that are glory hunters and have inherited the glory gene. None have any connection to Manchester whatsoever, save they or their parents picked up the paper, saw Manchester United top of the League and thus supported them. Some watch England and only see the Manchester Utd players and take no notice of the rest. Most highly inflate the performance of their players, just as youve done with Cleverly. He hasn't been bad but imo he's hardly been the bees knees.6 out of 10 standard. I have diddly squat interest in why you became a Manchester Utd fan, for the reasons above. I fucking hate the cheating bastard of a club.

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Linked to this, take Leon Osman. Hardly a spectacular player nor a top drawer player, but a fairly good one who is technically sound. Should have been in the squad a while ago but instead dross like Henderson are handed opportunities, and Gareth fucking Barry still gets picked. Osman however plays for Everton (read: not Man Utd, Liverpool etc). He is a better footballer than Tom Cleverley for example IMO. The latter however plays for Man Utd. Not saying we should be regularly playing Osman, but it's scandalous someone like him wasn't given an opportunity earlier. For me, our insistence on playing someone like Barry (of Man City royalty) over giving someone like Osman a chance earlier on sums up what's been wrong with this country's national team and set-up for quite a long time. Yep, totally agree. It's scandalous that Leon Osman has had to wait until now to play for England, whilst the likes of Barry, Cleverley and Carrick have been regularly playing. Good game by Caulker too. He is going to be a fixture for many years. I assume you mean Lampard or Gerrard, because Cleverly has what, five caps? No I don't, because Gerrard and Lampard are good players. Cleverley is only in the squad because he's a Manchester United squad member. He's in the squad because he's quality. In my eyes there's not a lot between him and Osman, except Cleverley is younger, fitter and faster. Your eyes are covered by red lensed spectacles then. Osman is a far superior player to Cleverly and should have been in the squad way before now. Or I just know my team extremely well. Cleverley is a stand out performer for us, and we're top of the Premier League. Also, I'm not sure if you're actually watching England or not, but Cleverley has been the best player on the pitch for England in most of the games he's played. He also just turned 23. For what it's worth too, I rate Osman pretty highly. I was delighted he received a call up. Has Cleverley really been best player on the pitch in most of the England games he's played ? Typical fucking glory hunting Man United "supporter" bollocks. Absolutely fucking ridiculous that you can still manage to squeeze in glory hunting because I rate Tom Cleverley. That just shows you're incredibly simple minded and as pathetic as actual glory hunters. I watched the games and seen how good he was. Other than that Google is your friend if you don't remember his two man of the matches in a row. England's best player against Sweden was Osman though, and Wilshere is the better talent. So you don't actually think that you are an actual glory hunter then???????

Nah..Cisse had someone trying to stop his.

Linked to this, take Leon Osman. Hardly a spectacular player nor a top drawer player, but a fairly good one who is technically sound. Should have been in the squad a while ago but instead dross like Henderson are handed opportunities, and Gareth fucking Barry still gets picked. Osman however plays for Everton (read: not Man Utd, Liverpool etc). He is a better footballer than Tom Cleverley for example IMO. The latter however plays for Man Utd. Not saying we should be regularly playing Osman, but it's scandalous someone like him wasn't given an opportunity earlier. For me, our insistence on playing someone like Barry (of Man City royalty) over giving someone like Osman a chance earlier on sums up what's been wrong with this country's national team and set-up for quite a long time. Yep, totally agree. It's scandalous that Leon Osman has had to wait until now to play for England, whilst the likes of Barry, Cleverley and Carrick have been regularly playing. Good game by Caulker too. He is going to be a fixture for many years. I assume you mean Lampard or Gerrard, because Cleverly has what, five caps? No I don't, because Gerrard and Lampard are good players. Cleverley is only in the squad because he's a Manchester United squad member. He's in the squad because he's quality. In my eyes there's not a lot between him and Osman, except Cleverley is younger, fitter and faster. Your eyes are covered by red lensed spectacles then. Osman is a far superior player to Cleverly and should have been in the squad way before now. Or I just know my team extremely well. Cleverley is a stand out performer for us, and we're top of the Premier League. Also, I'm not sure if you're actually watching England or not, but Cleverley has been the best player on the pitch for England in most of the games he's played. He also just turned 23. For what it's worth too, I rate Osman pretty highly. I was delighted he received a call up. Has Cleverley really been best player on the pitch in most of the England games he's played ? Typical fucking glory hunting Man United "supporter" bollocks.

Linked to this, take Leon Osman. Hardly a spectacular player nor a top drawer player, but a fairly good one who is technically sound. Should have been in the squad a while ago but instead dross like Henderson are handed opportunities, and Gareth fucking Barry still gets picked. Osman however plays for Everton (read: not Man Utd, Liverpool etc). He is a better footballer than Tom Cleverley for example IMO. The latter however plays for Man Utd. Not saying we should be regularly playing Osman, but it's scandalous someone like him wasn't given an opportunity earlier. For me, our insistence on playing someone like Barry (of Man City royalty) over giving someone like Osman a chance earlier on sums up what's been wrong with this country's national team and set-up for quite a long time. Yep, totally agree. It's scandalous that Leon Osman has had to wait until now to play for England, whilst the likes of Barry, Cleverley and Carrick have been regularly playing. Good game by Caulker too. He is going to be a fixture for many years. I assume you mean Lampard or Gerrard, because Cleverly has what, five caps? No I don't, because Gerrard and Lampard are good players. Cleverley is only in the squad because he's a Manchester United squad member. He's in the squad because he's quality. In my eyes there's not a lot between him and Osman, except Cleverley is younger, fitter and faster. Your eyes are covered by red lensed spectacles then. Osman is a far superior player to Cleverly and should have been in the squad way before now.

Linked to this, take Leon Osman. Hardly a spectacular player nor a top drawer player, but a fairly good one who is technically sound. Should have been in the squad a while ago but instead dross like Henderson are handed opportunities, and Gareth fucking Barry still gets picked. Osman however plays for Everton (read: not Man Utd, Liverpool etc). He is a better footballer than Tom Cleverley for example IMO. The latter however plays for Man Utd. Not saying we should be regularly playing Osman, but it's scandalous someone like him wasn't given an opportunity earlier. For me, our insistence on playing someone like Barry (of Man City royalty) over giving someone like Osman a chance earlier on sums up what's been wrong with this country's national team and set-up for quite a long time. Yep, totally agree. It's scandalous that Leon Osman has had to wait until now to play for England, whilst the likes of Barry, Cleverley and Carrick have been regularly playing. Good game by Caulker too. He is going to be a fixture for many years. I assume you mean Lampard or Gerrard, because Cleverly has what, five caps? No I don't, because Gerrard and Lampard are good players. Cleverley is only in the squad because he's a Manchester United squad member.

Linked to this, take Leon Osman. Hardly a spectacular player nor a top drawer player, but a fairly good one who is technically sound. Should have been in the squad a while ago but instead dross like Henderson are handed opportunities, and Gareth fucking Barry still gets picked. Osman however plays for Everton (read: not Man Utd, Liverpool etc). He is a better footballer than Tom Cleverley for example IMO. The latter however plays for Man Utd. Not saying we should be regularly playing Osman, but it's scandalous someone like him wasn't given an opportunity earlier. For me, our insistence on playing someone like Barry (of Man City royalty) over giving someone like Osman a chance earlier on sums up what's been wrong with this country's national team and set-up for quite a long time. Yep, totally agree. It's scandalous that Leon Osman has had to wait until now to play for England, whilst the likes of Barry, Cleverley and Carrick have been regularly playing. Good game by Caulker too. He is going to be a fixture for many years.

Eh? He gets a lot of stick on here, for some reason. I think he's a great player. He has been for Liverpool without question. He's never done it for England though. Not been great for England, but has anybody been great for England since Beckham versus Greece 2001? Maybe Rooney 2004 before he broke his foot.

Tom Huddlestone isn't good enough either. Would be nowhere near the squad if he played for Fulham or someone like that.

Steven Taylor is better than Ryan Shawcross. Osman and Sterling acquitted themselves well, hope we don't see Barry again. Tonight should have seen either Ruddy or Forster play. Not hindsight but if Hart isn't available for any reason for a competitive game, we have no keeper in the squadf to replace him with a cap to his name. And either of those would have saved a couple of Zlatan's goals. Hart needs dropping to keep his cockiness/arrogance in check.

I well remember the 82 and 86 NI sides.....the likes of Armstrong, Hamilton,Pat Jennings, Sammy McIlroy and that pube headed fella, such a shame how the NI side has now become.

Raheem Sterling, as much of a Dipper cunt as he is, is a fantastic prospect and as good a young player as I've seen for years.

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