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Read this quote from Deschamps, article dated 10/1/2008 dont know if means much...

“I don’t think that I want to take a job mid-season, so I think I’ll wait for next term.”

Lassana Diarra to Portsmouth...

Without his Champions League Final appearance, his record doesn't look too impressive.

 

Aye, I'm surprised at such goodwill towards him tbh. Not to say he isn't good (I have no idea), but he's done nothing compared to Houllier, for example. A foreign Hughes?

Yes, Deschamps is the same age as Houllier and has had the same amount of time to make an impact

 

Where did I say that? I'm talking about the difference in response by people on here. Houllier with all his achievements got nothing like this enthusiasm.

Maybe because the teams he has worked under haven't played the attractive football the people on here are looking for.

 

Maybe so. I've never really seen it, as I admitted above.

 

What kind of style do his teams generally play? Other than with Juventus in a lower league.

Attacking, you saw that throughout the Champions League campaign, the wins over Real Madrid and Chelsea were very good games and Monaco took the game to both of them, Morientes and Giuly were influential in their success and I'm sure everyone remembers the 8-3 win over Deportivo La Coruna, players such as Morientes, Giuly and Rothen were the main attacking players in their team, the point is the intent was to play good football and attack teams.

 

 

So do people prefer the promise of good football over a proven winner?

I think people lke the fact that he is able to back up his good footballing credential with reasonable significant achievements, also has a lot of other things going for him such as his age and the unknown quantity aspect. Houllier has a limit, both achievment wise and age wise.

The appointment of Deschamps has an air of Wenger about it.

Without his Champions League Final appearance, his record doesn't look too impressive.

 

Aye, I'm surprised at such goodwill towards him tbh. Not to say he isn't good (I have no idea), but he's done nothing compared to Houllier, for example. A foreign Hughes?

Maybe becasue people are aware of Houlliers limit, as it stands Deschamps is someone not too many can fault becaseu he's achived something ata young age and can surely only get better with better resources and freedom. His style isnt questionalble either.

Of all the managers out there who havent got a "proven trpohy winning" record, Deschamps is probably the one would be happy with, its encouragin that the poll says that not many people would be against him. That says alot to be honest.

 

I think he might win over the fans becasue of the CL Final, that would be banded around the terraces soon enough. He ticks all the boxes if you ask me. Bottom line is that if we were to try this and he were to fail, i wouldnt be too angry with Mort and Ashley becaseu they showed enough bollocks to make a proactive appointment.

 

I also like the fact that the potential appointment is one where the skys the limit, alot of managers out there who would be relaisitc for us have a limit so to spek, for example Houllier, there would come a time where we know it'd be the end for him, however Deschamps to me has no limit because he is so young.

 

 

 

 

Dont you know NUFC sack their managers early? Havent you read the papers?

 

 

Apparently so....as long as we lose prettily ill be a happy magpie!

Of all the managers out there who havent got a "proven trpohy winning" record, Deschamps is probably the one would be happy with, its encouragin that the poll says that not many people would be against him. That says alot to be honest.

I think he might win over the fans becasue of the CL Final, that would be banded around the terraces soon enough. He ticks all the boxes if you ask me. Bottom line is that if we were to try this and he were to fail, i wouldnt be too angry with Mort and Ashley becaseu they showed enough bollocks to make a proactive appointment.

I also like the fact that the potential appointment is one where the skys the limit, alot of managers out there who would be relaisitc for us have a limit so to spek, for example Houllier, there would come a time where we know it'd be the end for him, however Deschamps to me has no limit because he is so young.

Arsenal took a risk with Wenger, id be happy to take any risk which is justifiable to be honest, have be tired of all the reactive appointments made in the past, this potnetial appointment ticks all the boxes and is about as proactive as you can get.

If any of this is true,i have to say i like the direction that Mort and Ashley are going,  it makes me think that Redknapp wasnt offered the job but rather touted for it and spoken to about it.

from me.

I think i could get behind Deschamps to be honest, his limited managerial experience has been pretty successful so far, CL Final, 3rd Monaco, and 1st Serie B Juve. Seems to tick all the boxes that Mort has set.

Huge risk, but a risk id be quite willing to have taken. A proactive appointment, but maybe not one the fans could get behind.

This maybe a big problem.

Oh, and before any serious answers, you might want to look at his past managerial record and how long he stays at clubs for. Bit shocking.

Was just about to say that...ridiculous.

The past week or 2, the Ronnie has had Morts socks knocked off, Redkanpp nailed on, Hughes nailed on, Shearer nailed on, Shearer and Keegan nailed on and Houllier nailed on, with a brazillian thrown in for good measure.

I like houllier whether he would get the time he needs here is debatable. dont think he can really go toe to toe with the likes of wenger or fergie but will get us a damn sight closer than almost everyone else mentioned. having shearer at his side would certainly be a great bargaining chip for time. could also see him coming in as dof too.

But if Houllier and Shearer got us so far, would you trust Shearer to be the man to take us that bit further?

Im sure i remember Houllier getting criticized for playing Owen as a lone striker and therefore not getting the best out of him.

Who else could be on the list? We seem to be looking at a different calibre of manager, I think Hughes/Shearer and Keegan are the only ones who will be considered from England, with the board looking at Houllier who else is a realisitc option?

I cant think of too many managers on par with Houllier with the same reputation as Houllier in England, maybe van Gaal?

Can anyone think of any other manager who is known in Britain with a similar standing in thegame as Houllier?

Always thought this would be a realistic choice, i dont think managing partnerships work, not unless they have the exact same styles and philosiphies. I dont think Shearer will have the same philosphy as Houllier so i cant see it working at all.

Having said that, having shearer doing all the PR would be invalauble to Houllier.

I know people arent exactly sold on the whole footballing style that Houllier brings, but do you no think it would be a possibilty that the new manager could be asked to adapt there style, i think it wouldnt be too unnapealing for manager to have to adapt his style is he knew that money was no object?

If Hughes was foreign would he be considered, we should be considering Jol before we consider Hughes yet we wont...why? Idrather we didnt go down this route.

Soccerlens

 

Mark Hughes entered a rudderless club in disarray when Graeme Souness departed Ewood Park for Newcastle United early in the 2004-5 campaign. Indeed, Blackburn lay slumped without a win in 4 games when Hughes was appointed on September 15th. Instantly, he guided the Lancashire outfit to a win over Portsmouth. Yet he still had a ship to steady, but hitherto has masterminded and revived the club’s fortunes in much the same way he did with the Welsh international team in the years prior to arriving at Blackburn.

 

Initially, the emphasis was on stability. 4-0 capitulations at the hands of Middlesbrough and Chelsea indicated underlying problems, and Hughes had to wait over 2 months for his next win. 5 points from 24 followed but the form most notably of Paul Dickov helped Rovers to 4 consecutive draws before they won 2-0 at Craven Cottage in late November, and slowly but surely, the Blue and Whites turned a corner. They lost 3 of their final 12 matches of the season and safety was ensured.

 

The club’s latin motto translates as ‘by skill and hard work’, attributes one would associate with Hughes in his playing days, and he began to imprint them on his team. The following season Blackburn finished in 6th place and European football was ensured. The signing of Craig Bellamy was a masterstroke: a player notorious within the media for having a lot of baggage, the striker hit 17 goals under his old international manager with few problems, proving that Hughes, who learnt his trade under Sir Alex Ferguson as a player, showed he had picked up a thing or two with regards to discipline. Post Christmas 2005, they won 13 of their last 20 games and picked up the home scalps of Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United.

 

While the season after Blackburn had to rely on the Intertoto Cup as a European route following a respectable 10th placed finish, 1 defeat in the first 11 Premiership games in 2007-8 shows that Hughes is doing something right again.

 

He has turned Rovers around completely, moulding old fashioned grit with a plethora of attacking talent in the space of 3 years. In terms of signings, Hughes has frequently dipped into the market and found gems oozing with class, and nearly all have been exemplary finds for any aspiring manager at bargain prices; Benni McCarthy, brought in to replace Bellamy, hit 24 goals in all competitions last season while Christopher Samba has proved an absolute steal at £400,000 to complement Ryan Nelsen in defence, picked up on a free transfer.

 

There have been others; Hughes virtually acquired a new player when he reignited Morten Gamst Pedersen’s confidence on the left flank, while David Bentley, signed for around £3.5m from Arsenal, complements the Norwegian beautifully. The two wingers are a joy to watch, both capable of scoring, consistently landing the ball in the danger zone, a frequently devastating threat from set plays and generally wreaking havoc in and around opposing defences. The additions of Stephen Warnock and Roque Santa Cruz also look like excellent forays into the market.

 

It has already been noted that Harry Redknapp and David Moyes were astute enough to blood in young talent at their respective clubs, and Hughes is no exception to the rule. The way in which Matt Derbyshire burst onto the scene in the 2006-7 season has further reinforced the manager’s canny judgment. His relationship and popularity with the board and fans are first rate, and while he has been linked with a host of once vacant jobs, such as Tottenham recently and Manchester City through the Summer, his loyalty has been commendable. Surely, however, it can only be a matter of time before Hughes is destined for bigger things.

 

With all of the foreign managers we have seen in recent times it was suggested British management talent was a dying breed, yet these three Premiership bosses have proved this to be false.

 

My choice

 

How much of that is different to anything Allardyce achieved? Its a flimsy counter argument i know but i think the club needs someone that the fans can get behind, and Hughes wont inspire the fans. There are plenty other younger managers in Europe who have achieved more but arent getting recoginition because they arent in the main stream.

If Mark Hughes was foriegn his achievments at Blackburn wouldnt be bigged up as much as they are now.

One thing that makes me think Keegan could be the man is simply that we need the spark back. There's no way, for example, Hughes would ignite any passion in the supporters. We need something to tear us out of our apathy first and foremost.

The single most important aspect of this appoint is not the credentials of the manager, but how the fans take to him. If the majority of the fans cant get all the way behind the new man then the club will continue to be surrounded by negativity.

If Keegan is a manager who alot of the fans can get behind, then so be it, he wouldnt be my choice, but i could quite asily get behind him.

Didnt Keegan spend loads with Man City?

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Georgie Thompson: "Newcastle's Evening Chronicle always have a good idea at whats going on,what have they got to say?"

Its amazing how people are using Sven as an example, when we were linked with him some people were disgusted and demanded we didnt go for him.

Tell me about it, sums up the fans really.

 

Hughes who'll be off in a few years when the slimey tit at Old Trafford retires.

 

 

That would be my biggest concern with Hughes, I feel he would just use us to prove that he can handle a so called 'BIG' job and jump ship as they come calling.

He'd have to win something before he would be considered, getting us consistently into the top4 or 5 wont count for shit if he doesnt get us winning silverware consistently. Man U will have there pick of 99.9% of the managers out there.

Shearer > Hughes imo.

 

The potential of Shearer at Newcastle is more than someone like Hughes who'll be off in a few years when the slimey tit at Old Trafford retires.

 

Shearer/Keegan would be best imo.

Based on what?

Any manager out there who is supremely confident in there ability and has a proven track record is mad for not taking the nufc job. Its basically a legend in the making, Keegan is adored here for being aloser...

Sounds like aphone interview, froma prank caller. Fake Sheik sting....