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What a disaster.

I know Antonio is a menace, but Kelly looks like an oversized child trying to deal with him.

Tonali at 60. Wilson at 75 if we're still losing.

We'll win

Kelly has had an atrocious half hour.

Oh no. If Willock is done I hope Eddie puts Tonali in his place instead of moving Joe and bringing on a different winger.

This game was as good as over if Isak's counted. Now it's going to be a slog.

Kelly at fault. Pretty confident Burn doesn't let that happen.

What a ball that is from Hall.

Looks like this match interrupted his plans for the week.

We've scored 11 goals in our last three games against them. I think we'll keep that pace tonight.

A staple of Champions League coverage on ESPN in the 2000s. Absolutely reviled by many.

I think you're all forgetting how the Wilson cycle goes. He's going to score like six goals, including firing us into the LC semifinal, over the next 2 months, which will lead to an acceptance that he's a quality backup and we can get through the season with him. And then he'll get hurt at Southampton with a week left in the window.

Can't wait to see him score tonight.

5-1 Isak x2 Joelinton Willock Wilson or 1-2 Antonio, Bowen

Don't worry, there will be a day in the future when the lead-up to Arsenal-Man United at 2p is dominated by discussion of Newcastle United's title deciding clash with Spurs.

This season meh. Wolves - poor performance, but win - and Brighton - decent performance, but loss. Last season we beat Brentford 1-0, which started our best stretch of the season, beat Palace 4-0, beat Chelsea 4-1, and then the 4-3 comeback against West Ham.

NFL games have gone to those services. To see every NFL game this season you need a cable subscription, which would give you the networks plus ESPN and NFL Network, and then Prime, Peacock, and Netflix. English football has some unique considerations though.

I definitely thought we’d have shovels in the ground for a new training facility well before making a stadium decision. We’re definitely making strides with the academy but impossible to tell to what extent until another few years pass. If they decide on a new stadium it requires significant trust that they will get a lot of decisions right - the location, the design, the capacity, the atmosphere, pricing, season ticket moves, and the realization of promised revenue gains.

I know it sounds like nothing going from being top of the 14 to bottom of the big 7. On paper it’s just standing still. But the revenue gap is simply enormous at the moment and the fact it doesn’t totally feel like that on the pitch is largely down to Eddie.

I totally understand people who are opposed to moving. I feel an attachment to the place from 3k miles away. As a foreigner I also agree with you saying our opinion should mean less/nothing. My personal hope was that they could either pull off some ridiculous feat of engineering to expand SJP in a huge way or rebuild on site, but that is seeming less and less likely. But part of the argument against moving cannot be that it won't even be that big of a deal financially or tallying the trophies of clubs who have built new stadiums.

Sure, but that feels about as unlikely as hoping to overachieve year over year. Imagine being the owner of a football club and coming out with a statement like "We're not going to invest in the club's infrastructure beyond minor enhancements. While it will cost us revenue on an annual basis and jeopardize our ability to compete for an unknown period of time, we think it is best to wait for 13 of the other clubs and UEFA to decide to vote against all financial rules." We're almost certainly not going back to the wild west spending days. The rules will change over time, but there will be rules and they will almost definitely be linked to revenue so that they are legitimately or under the guise of sustainability.

I think it is fair to say that literally the only way we could regularly compete at the top if all that's done is a modest SJP expansion is to have one of the absolute best academies in the country/world to the point that it would regularly produce both first XI players and player sales. Absent that you're hoping to overachieve via the manager and/or transfer market, which can work for a period of time but does not work forever.

Sorry, but it's ridiculous to suggest that building a new stadium wouldn't be worth it for the revenue gains or saying Arsenal or Spurs haven't won a trophy so what's the point. Chelsea won things with a smaller stadium by outspending everyone before there were rules and by building one of the best academies in the world. They are incredibly reliant on European income and player sales, the two most volatile sources of revenue. Where would Arsenal and Spurs be if they had stayed at Highbury and WHL? There's a lot of factors to consider, but the odds of them being in a group of four with us and West Ham while City, Liverpool, Man United, and Chelsea held a complete monopoly on the top four would be significantly raised. A new stadium unlocks commercial revenue opportunities as much as it enhances matchday revenue, so you need to look at both. In 2016/17, the last year of WHL, Spurs matchday revenue was £45m (roughly the same as us now) and their commercial revenue was £76m. TV and UEFA money made up 61% of their revenue. In 2022/23, Spurs matchday revenue was £118m and commercial was £228m. That's a revenue increase in those two categories that nearly matches our total revenue from the same season. TV and UEFA was down to only 37% of their revenue. Spurs used to be in a revenue tier with the three big Italian clubs, Dortmund, and Atletico. They have jumped to a level that aligns them with Liverpool (who have made massive gains themselves), Bayern Munich, and ahead of Arsenal. Their revenue is now closer to Real Madrid, Man City, PSG, and Barcelona than it is to Juventus, Dortmund, etc. This doesn't given them any guarantee of trophies, but it means if the other parts align there is no ceiling to what they could achieve. It also means they can only fall so far and can recover from mistakes. We wouldn't see the same level of gains as them, but there's no denying that a new stadium would push us into another class of clubs. At minimum we'd go from the top of the other 14 to the bottom of the big 7.

This is a key point when thinking about either the stadium or training ground. A state of the art training ground and an updated/expanded/new stadium would protect NUFC and its place in the game for decades. It would greatly increase the level at which the club is self-sustaining both in terms of revenue and competitiveness, which means it wouldn't matter (as much) if PIF sells up or the PL loses its luster resulting in massive TV revenue declines.