stabmasterareson

I'm not sure about that, but I'll follow your lead and try not to derail this any further

I just don't believe things work so linearly, to say we're exactly where we are in 20/21 based solely on league position just isn't accurate at all in my opinion

Because that's exactly how things work

Let me make an argument with as many holes as a slice of emmantel and then back away as soon as the most basic of research challenges it...

Fair enough there's just some relentless negativity at the moment and it seems an odd time for it

Barely anything positive about the second goal on Sky despite the movement, one touch passing, and finish, just moaning on about the West Ham defense

Give. It. A. Rest.

Loving Ramsey floating around between the lines and Hall giving us with on the left

How is that not a handball?

Excited to see Osula and Woltemade together, maybe a 3-5-2 with Hall and Murphy as wingbacks?

He was basically a liaison between clubs and a first point of contact for players.

If he can stick to that story after several weeks of "enhanced" interrogation, maybe...

I'm sure JT is a piece of shit to be around on the touchline but Hurzler was constantly in the ear of the fourth official and needed to be told to rein it in multiple times, seemed a real entitled prick out there

I won't belabour the point but our looking at our future solely based off the current trajectory precludes plenty of viable alternate (and more positive) paths that we've seen up until recently. But like you, I'm just happy we're seeing some energy and application on the pitch right now, so I'll end it there

Except for the entirety of Howe's tenure, that's too big a picture for many here

Excepting the two halves of football - both against Barcelona - first half in the group stage and second half in the r16 match, I don't think that's true, certainly PSG away we pressed well, held our own and arguably deserved to win. Likewise the home knockout fixture against Barca

So his 'form curve' is trending down because...?

All fair though I suppose I was responding to those who have acted as if this was the straw that broke the camels back for Howe, which your last paragraph hedges and as such I'm not sure my post was aimed at you or any of the points you're making

How does a one goal loss away to a team neck in neck for the title change anyone's opinion? How could this be the straw that broke the camels back? And if so, did any of your posts show you thinking we'd win today?

Absolutely nothing, just a race to throw in the same hot take they've had for ages

If I remember it was basically a season of two distinct halves - first half scraping results but generally poor football, second half after Cisse arrived we had that 433 that clicked.

Its easy to think like this, simply ignore every good result

For some as soon as the takeover happened they've expected us to beat everyone. Losses count in their math, all the other successes are abberant.

So why not say that instead of framing speculative "logical reasoning" as a fact?

The question was specifically about a shortlist. Is that true or did you make that up as a stick to beat Howe with?