themanupstairs

Never really realized how much of a knob jockey Reina is. He refused to give Cardiff any credit yesterday and kept saying that they deserved the win and that the best team had won

I disagree mate,I'm from Whitley bay but I don't think you can quantify passion.sure there's a pride in the city and everything there is about Newcastle but there's obviously got to be a massive connection and passion for people outside of Newcastle because it's so much more difficult to be immersed in it.when I see the efforts some people go to watch nufc matches from around the world and how Rey follow newcastle's every move,that shows unbelievable love for the club

Better be unbelievable love! My first trip to St. James (to watch us vs Reading in the Championship in 09) cost me about 3k sterling in total for 2 days

Just been watching the highlights of Tiote against Man Utd. and fuck me! Absolutely monumental performance from him that night. Completely dismantled Man Utd's attack. My how we've missed him!

Welcome back son. Looking forward to some Cheik buzzing around in midfield again.

Eggil Tostenstad

Ugo Eggyolk

fyp

Who's wearing 45 in the training pics? Is it Dummet?

Bread Friedel

Daniel Stirridge

dodged a bullet there?

Bloody hell. Who does a club like Wolves have to choose from?

Bruce?

And Mick has gone.

For real? I best check

Hope Man Utd truly trounce the scouse shite and send Suarez home in tears.

Any more proof needed that Suarez is a massive cunt of the highest order?

Good to see Darren Fletcher out and about. One of the few likeable footballers and a very good player.

Dalglish 

"mentality's never been a problem for Luis Suarez", like he's some sort of mythical demi god.

He's mental alright

That was so contrived. You can see it was hard work for him to smile and claim he loves it there and loves going into training every morning

How the f*** are you supposed to measure "expectation"?

With an expectationometer.

Allardyce is a better manager than Pardew whose football philsophies is actually quite similar to that of our former manager, stats based, percentages football, solid defence, direct football. We've put in many a poor performance under Pardew as we did under Allardyce. Pardew is just more slick and more likeable if you like as a personality. Big Sam was welcomed here with open arms by most on his appointment but as soon as we got a billionaire owner fans' attitudes started to change and he become quite the scapegoat. That said, some of the results and performances under him helped to underline fans' attitude towards him which didn't help his cause. I still believe, we'd have stayed up under him and would have went onto become a solid consistent top 8 side at least.... which fast forward to this very days is probably our true level under Pardew.

 

Fuckin hell

 

f***ing hell what?!

 

That Big Sam is a better manager than Pardew? Look at their records man

 

I know he's hated here but Allardyce is a very good manager who always gets the best out of his sides/clubs. Why Blackburn sacked him I do not know, they would comfortably be sat in mid-table right now.

 

Allardyce gets results. West Ham will go up under him, guaranteed, and if they keep him, they'll stay up, guaranteed. Pardew is a gamble that is working right now but you just know under him it could go massively wrong, like it seems to have done at all of his previous clubs.

So you don't think it's at all possible that someone like Pardew could have learned from his previous mistakes and has now become a better manager than he was over all, as his previous record suggests? This notion that "previous record" determines your level at present is ridiculous, and it goes for players and managers. It's all about the present.

From a spurs forum

 

Never in my life have I read so much filth, and bile from such a wide cross section of support, as I have from RAWK recently. It just beggars belief. You are your own worst enemy. Not the Media, or anyone else.

 

You are like a tight knit Free Mason society, who hates anything that is not you. You hate teams because they are now better than you. You hate players because they are better than your own. You hate managers, because they are better than Kenny Dalgliesh. You hate the Press because you are not in the limelight.

 

Ask yourselves why you should be? What have you done to deserve to be?

 

You spent 100M, yet you dont entertain...not even slightly. Please take a look at the table, because the last time I checked, there are six teams above you. Yet all of your players are much better, and you have a better manager.

 

Your "loyalty" is not admirable. Its disgusting. Its the stuff of the deranged, and the delusional. Like a form of narcisissm. A sickness. You make me sick.

 

:clap:

Thing is, we're where we are right now because of the things that Pardew is good at. We could get a manager that's better at certain things, but there'd be no guarantee that we'd keep the strengths we already have.

 

I reckon we could probably get a more tactically astute manager from somewhere, but would the new manager would command the respect of the players or be capable of working with Ashley and Llambias like Pardew?

 

In any venture "right fit" is sometimes more important than objective ability, and there's no doubting that Pardew is the right fit for the club at the moment.

 

Wouldn't trade him for anyone at this point. God knows I don't trust Ashley to make another managerial appointment.

 

You wouldnt trade him against no one even if Ashley wasnt the owner? (rest of the post isnt directed at you )

 

Lets be frank, Pardew has done well but he lacks what a great manager possesses which is the ability to change a match for the greater good. We have not once won when conceding first. Pardew gets more credit than he deserves, while he is a big reason and not taking anything away from him while we are up there, I believe this season has come down a lot more to individual brilliance and luck at the right time than a brilliant pardew. Pardew has surely settled this team well, but we have by no means played as well as the table suggests.

 

Evidence that supports this is:

 

Krul has been magical in plenty of matches. Examples being Wolves (a), Man U(a), Blackburn (a) penalty save which probably won us the game, Fulham (h), ridiculous saves against Villa.

Individual brilliance from Raylor against Everton and Shiteland.

Ba  goalscoring form

Shola magic goal against Spurs

Papiss in the weekend.

We were lucky against QPR, penalty against Man U and plenty other games 

 

Why my criticism against Pardew many will ask. Well its because of his ability to almost screw over games with his tactics. Prime example is letting Villa back into the game in the weekend, letting QPR outplay us for more than they should, for letting Wolves back in the game, for letting Fulham beat us 5-2 as we backed off, for giving Blackburn a chance last wednesday by backing off once again. We almost let Stoke back in the game too. 

 

He seems content to defend when up instead of putting more pressure and playing to our strengths. He is too passive in my opinion and reminds me off Sven Göran Eriksson, a manager who can organize but will never be able to change a game with pure tactical brilliance.

 

Put it even clearer, Pardew has done really well, but he isnt the big reason why we are where we are.

There's giving Pardew too much credit, then there's giving him none! Sounds like you're giving him no credit with the above post tbh.

You can't use the "our keeper is f***ing mint" as an argument to discredit the manager of the football club. For all we know, Pardew and his management of the club, is the reason why Krul (who is obviously very talented) is in fantastic form. I don't buy this idea that if a team's GK plays well, then they were lucky to win or avoid defeat because of some heroics. Keepers are part of the football team on the pitch after all no? Their performances are as responsible for results as that of any other player in any other position on the pitch, on any given Saturday.

Fact of the matter is, we've won matches, and are still in business at this stage in the season. Pardew should get whatever credit is allowed any football manager when they succeed, and in his case it is relative success. Oldtype's argument is spot on, in that he should be allowed the praise he gets precisely for being the right man to lead this club at this time.

I don't see Pardew, at the moment, being the one to lead us onto greater and bigger things. I reckon we need someone who is a step up if we're going to challenge for Europe year in year out. Nevertheless I do believe Pardew's management of the club is a massive reason we are where we are now.

Thing is, we're where we are right now because of the things that Pardew is good at. We could get a manager that's better at certain things, but there'd be no guarantee that we'd keep the strengths we already have.

 

I reckon we could probably get a more tactically astute manager from somewhere, but would the new manager would command the respect of the players or be capable of working with Ashley and Llambias like Pardew?

 

In any venture "right fit" is sometimes more important than objective ability, and there's no doubting that Pardew is the right fit for the club at the moment.

 

Wouldn't trade him for anyone at this point. God knows I don't trust Ashley to make another managerial appointment.

Spot on 

Lennon, VDV, Sandro, Kaboul, gallas, Defoe, Huddlestone all out and Arry misses flight. We're gonna get destroyed.

Shocking state of affairs. Was really hoping Spurs would push for the title. Was really hoping you would destroy the red shite tonight at least, what with their fantastic home record.

Best of luck KD

Indeed. Earlier on in the half Colo had to go and cover for Simpson by getting across to N'Zogbia and closing down his cross (think it went out for a corner). He was simply doing the same thing again, whilst Simpson was ambling around aimlessly.

Is Coloccini the type to give Simpson an earful in such situations? Maybe those who sit behind the goals can help answer that?

Excellent 3 points keeping our home record for 2012 intact.

Ba took his goal well, welcome home son!

Delicious finish by Cisse who looks a real live wire. Very promising debut.

Man of the match for me is a coin toss between Krul and Guthrie. They were both masters of their domains on the day.

Special mentions to Santon who was solid and positive, and to James Perch who stepped up in the final 15 mins after going missing for large parts.

Over the moon with this win