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Well to pad it out a bit, I'm fed up with being accused of being a spoilt kid for wanting moderate investment and the club to have a desire to improve. Your post encapsulates that attitude and I'm fed up with reading it.

Too much "we couldn't afford it" talk there. Nonsense, as we all know. So what's the real reason, then? Being far too cautious. This quote sums it up... "They worked on those glory transfers and all the dramas behind them - glory and bust, with no success. What was the success? It was basically. 'I've signed a player!' That has to end. It has." if they say we couldn't afford it then the reason we wouldn't have signed a player is cos we couldn't afford it. We pay our fees outright in one go and are trying to make the club self sufficient, if we have £6m in the transfer pot and the selling club says we want £6.5m then rightly or wrongly Llambias is going to walk away. i might not agree but wouldn't say it was nonsense. We spent about £3 million. That's not acceptable, regardless of any spin they may try to put on it. January should be interesting. £3m net spend's a pretty lavish window for us under Ashley if you look at it properly. While it actually is ( ) that doesn't help their case. The less we've spent over the years just looks worse and worse as the trend continues. Aye it looked awful last season. If only they had some kind of basis to the idea that they dont need to run the club at a loss to achieve success. A 5th place finish might back that up somehow. Wishful thinking though anyway. Lets ignore context and moan about how much we spent constantly. We sold our best player months before to fund signings and we'll possibly still be spending that money 2 years on. How's that for context, Derek? Bit of a random statement if im honest. Im not fussed how long it takes to spend it aslong as we improve in the long run. You're like a kid at christmas, you could care less about the implications involved in getting the presents. You just want new toys. This is fucking bullshit. Sick of reading stuff like this.

What are you on about man? Who cares about those clubs? We should look to continuously improve ourselves. That's it. Nothing else to it.

Not sure how you can say this with a straight face unless you're treating 09/10 as year zero. January we sold Carroll was a bit ropey too. We could have gone down again and had no complaints. It's not like we hadn't been warned. What we spent during this summer has no bearing on where we finished last season and will be seen as a success/failure based on the results of this season. A season Llambias has targeted that we can drop 3 places and it would be seen by him as a success. Maybe he is being realistic? We weren't that far ahead of Everton (fantastic start) and Chelsea (spent £100m) to be confident enough to say we will definitely finish above them. Liverpool are shite mind. Depressing. Other teams will improve so why bother? Basically I think you're going a bit far now, Jon. Have we not built up a fantastic group of players without having to spend silly money? Not at all. Is your genuine expectation to achieve what we did last season and anything else is a failure? I think we should have spent a moderate amount to improve our squad and fuck worrying about anyone else. What we did was buy 1 first team player, a load of kids, whilst also letting a number of players go for OK money. I never even had expectations for this season, I just wanted us to improve our squad and in turn our chances of success this year. You can't tell me that buying a first choice right back and another forward wouldn't have helped matters on that score. I just think you're taking sensible pragmatism too far here, you're sounding like Pardew when anyone can see that Pardew is saying this stuff about transfers through gritted teeth.

Not sure how you can say this with a straight face unless you're treating 09/10 as year zero. January we sold Carroll was a bit ropey too. We could have gone down again and had no complaints. It's not like we hadn't been warned. What we spent during this summer has no bearing on where we finished last season and will be seen as a success/failure based on the results of this season. A season Llambias has targeted that we can drop 3 places and it would be seen by him as a success. Maybe he is being realistic? We weren't that far ahead of Everton (fantastic start) and Chelsea (spent £100m) to be confident enough to say we will definitely finish above them. Liverpool are shite mind. Depressing. Other teams will improve so why bother? Basically I think you're going a bit far now, Jon.

I haven't even read the article yet, I'm psyching myself up for reading it while reading your snippets. The bloke makes my fucking skin crawl. And he knows nowt about the club so I wish he would fuck off acting like his main interest isn't having his tongue so far up Mike Ashley's hoop it's unreal.

Too much "we couldn't afford it" talk there. Nonsense, as we all know. So what's the real reason, then? Being far too cautious. This quote sums it up... "They worked on those glory transfers and all the dramas behind them - glory and bust, with no success. What was the success? It was basically. 'I've signed a player!' That has to end. It has." if they say we couldn't afford it then the reason we wouldn't have signed a player is cos we couldn't afford it. We pay our fees outright in one go and are trying to make the club self sufficient, if we have £6m in the transfer pot and the selling club says we want £6.5m then rightly or wrongly Llambias is going to walk away. i might not agree but wouldn't say it was nonsense. We spent about £3 million. That's not acceptable, regardless of any spin they may try to put on it. January should be interesting. £3m net spend's a pretty lavish window for us under Ashley if you look at it properly. While it actually is ( ) that doesn't help their case. The less we've spent over the years just looks worse and worse as the trend continues. Agree entirely. While of course the usual suspects will pop up and say "Some daft cunts want us to spend £20m on Darius Vassell before they're happy", there's a degree of balance to be had here. And there's no way to spin Ashley's tenure other than that the prevailing theme is we bring in more than we spend, transfers-wise.

Too much "we couldn't afford it" talk there. Nonsense, as we all know. So what's the real reason, then? Being far too cautious. This quote sums it up... "They worked on those glory transfers and all the dramas behind them - glory and bust, with no success. What was the success? It was basically. 'I've signed a player!' That has to end. It has." if they say we couldn't afford it then the reason we wouldn't have signed a player is cos we couldn't afford it. We pay our fees outright in one go and are trying to make the club self sufficient, if we have £6m in the transfer pot and the selling club says we want £6.5m then rightly or wrongly Llambias is going to walk away. i might not agree but wouldn't say it was nonsense. We spent about £3 million. That's not acceptable, regardless of any spin they may try to put on it. January should be interesting. £3m net spend's a pretty lavish window for us under Ashley if you look at it properly.

£0 and counting. It's fucking shameless, the stadium stuff. Ensures I'll never quite trust them.

I don't think you should give Suarez a penalty short of him being taken out with an AK47. The boy who cried wolf, he's always on the con. He's created this situation himself.

I know you're jesting but there is probably a lot of truth in it. Having to renegotiate contracts in football must be a right ballache. You also have longer to wait until there's a pay rise upon signing a new contract. The long contracts absolutely make sense IMO. They do in the right circumstances, not if you end up having to pay them off or keep daft cunts on the books for years on end.

More journalists should do it tbh.

Same as Ranger 5 years, Pardew 5 years originally, Carr 10 years or whatever. The people who run the club are really peculiar.

Here we go again. Yawn. After all the stuff he said about giving Pardew a break in future as well.

Not read the thread or anything like that but does anyone else think this is totally fucking stupid and pointless? Why are we the only club handing out insane contracts?

You're easily one of the funniest people on here.

There's no comparison to be made with Jonas at all. Jonas has consistently shown football nous that is way beyond anything Obertan is capable of for starters. Compare Obertan with Solano. It might not sound a fair comparison but what I mean is that they are polar opposites in terms of football intelligence, technique, natural athleticism, end product, etc. One was a proper footballer, the other one isn't. You can't turn a player like that around imo. A degree of football intelligence should be a given, a foundation on which to build everything else. We need to let him go, I don't like saying that because he's been no hassle off the pitch and is probably a canny lad but any time he spends on the pitch is time wasted.

Oh aye, cosmic.

He can't even get in Portsmouth's team FFS.

Mannn. Bit pissed off like, could quite easily have won this (with a better side out).

Love "ments", keep forgetting to add it to my vocabulary.

Fuck, thought that was a goal.

Someone said Cisse on 82 mins as well, didn't they? Like 2 minutes ago.

Cisse is such a fucking spectacular player.

FUCK.