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come on man he's only 24, i think he will become a decent striker once he gets to play central more.

the cockroaches are finally down

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Aye, dodging question all over aren't I. There's a dozen of you and 2 of us expressing the counter argument. I don't think Pardew is capable of implementing any style other than keeping it tight. His set piece record is atrocious. But then we scored from as many set pieces as Arsenal last season. Should Wenger be sacked for his awful set pieces? We don't necessarily have to rely on them. Arsenal don't have to rely on set pieces because they're great at creating chances as a team, you picked the worst possible team to compare us to. We could do with something to rely on because we can't create chances and we concede loads of goals, but he's s*** at coaching set pieces as well. Incidentally, what are his good points as a manager? That was the point of choosing Arsenal. We've scored more goals from open play than 10 other teams...despite THE PLAYERS having one of the worst conversion rates in the league for the chances we create. Arsenal are a more extreme example of a team who are "woeful" at set pieces, but compensate otherwise. I'm not really sure what your point is. We're bad at set pieces, we don't create many chances, we concede loads of goals. We have more shots on goal than any other club outside the top 7. We have more shots on target than any other club outside the top 7. Our conversion rate is the second worst in the league. Nearly half our shots were from outside the box, how does that compare to other PL sides? edit: wow, 55%, more than half We're on 50% Spurs are on 55% ....but we take more shots than the other teams. Look at the breakdown of shoits inside and outside the box in terms of numbers rather than percentages and we're by no means the worst. We've had 263 shots from inside the box this season. More than 7 per game. More than 8 other teams. All from our own box as we're pegged back according to some on here You are either drunk while watching us play or you simply watch a couple of games and trying to be a smart alex. We have being peg back in most games this season, we nick goals which explain why we rarely win by more than 2 goals. Can't take you for real when everything you analyse doesn't reflect the state of our games. Even those who support Pardew might not agree with the rubbish you speak. More chances than other teams?? Have you actually been watching the rest of the league. If you were aware of how the other teams being playing this season, you wouldn't be serving all this dross. ignore hf he's a wum who i guess have not seen a single 90mins match and watches motd drunk. He'll be devastated by this grammatically-mangled put-down. i do my best

it gets worse... listen to him Newcastle's indifferent form due to 'misfortune' says Alan Pardew Alan Pardew has put Newcastle United's indifferent form this season down to "misfortune", with the manager insistent that his team should be praised for avoiding relegation from the Premier League. Newcastle's safety was secured on Sunday with a 2-1 win at Queens Park Rangers. There have been rumblings of discontent around St James' Park, though, that Pardew's men ended up in a fight for survival at all. The manager believes special circumstances contributed to that scenario. "Our season has been difficult, but we have come through it," Pardew said. "I don't care what anybody says, getting over the line with some of the misfortune we have had is an achievement. "We have had three cruciate injuries and no other club has had that. We missed key players at QPR – Sissoko, Shola Ameobi, Tim Krul and Davide Santon. "All year we have had that, but we still got over the line. That is the main thing." Pardew's position is not believed to be under threat but the 51-year-old will hold scheduled talks with the Newcastle owner Mike Ashley next week. Recruitment plans for next season will feature prominently on the agenda as will the futures of existing Newcastle players; Yohan Cabaye, Hatem Ben Arfa and Fabricio Coloccini have all been heavily linked with moves away from the north-east. Before his meeting with Ashley, Pardew takes Newcastle into their final game of the season, against Arsenal. Pardew has backpedalled after claiming that he would not care if Newcastle lost that game 4-0. "Our fans can turn up and enjoy it," Pardew added. "I hope they come in fancy dress and enjoy it. Regardless of the score, thank God we are here next year in the greatest league in the world. "I know people will have picked up on my comments about not caring about the result against Arsenal, which were, of course, meant as a joke." http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/may/14/alan-pardew-newcastle?

Aye, dodging question all over aren't I. There's a dozen of you and 2 of us expressing the counter argument. I don't think Pardew is capable of implementing any style other than keeping it tight. His set piece record is atrocious. But then we scored from as many set pieces as Arsenal last season. Should Wenger be sacked for his awful set pieces? We don't necessarily have to rely on them. Arsenal don't have to rely on set pieces because they're great at creating chances as a team, you picked the worst possible team to compare us to. We could do with something to rely on because we can't create chances and we concede loads of goals, but he's s*** at coaching set pieces as well. Incidentally, what are his good points as a manager? That was the point of choosing Arsenal. We've scored more goals from open play than 10 other teams...despite THE PLAYERS having one of the worst conversion rates in the league for the chances we create. Arsenal are a more extreme example of a team who are "woeful" at set pieces, but compensate otherwise. I'm not really sure what your point is. We're bad at set pieces, we don't create many chances, we concede loads of goals. We have more shots on goal than any other club outside the top 7. We have more shots on target than any other club outside the top 7. Our conversion rate is the second worst in the league. Nearly half our shots were from outside the box, how does that compare to other PL sides? edit: wow, 55%, more than half We're on 50% Spurs are on 55% ....but we take more shots than the other teams. Look at the breakdown of shoits inside and outside the box in terms of numbers rather than percentages and we're by no means the worst. We've had 263 shots from inside the box this season. More than 7 per game. More than 8 other teams. All from our own box as we're pegged back according to some on here You are either drunk while watching us play or you simply watch a couple of games and trying to be a smart alex. We have being peg back in most games this season, we nick goals which explain why we rarely win by more than 2 goals. Can't take you for real when everything you analyse doesn't reflect the state of our games. Even those who support Pardew might not agree with the rubbish you speak. More chances than other teams?? Have you actually been watching the rest of the league. If you were aware of how the other teams being playing this season, you wouldn't be serving all this dross. ignore hf he's a wum who i guess have not seen a single 90mins match and watches motd drunk.

Direct, thats about all I can say about it. i would say 'Boredom' go out there and bore the opposition to death, when they are finally half asleep hit them with the counter long ball. I can't see anything that jumps out as a particular style but its direct. Long ball, free kicks in our half launched into the oppo box. yeah i guess it can be easy for a lot of people to label us a long ball team, but then you get down to it and think it over, our long balls are far too horrifically poor , which leads to the conclusion the team and manager don't train solely for long balls. So you scatch your head and think we dont pass the ball short that much either, we dont try to keep the ball either,... what style is this? its f***ing relegation fodder style. no question. yeah its long ball, but its not even effective Allardyce style long ball its 'Pardew I Dont Know What I'm Doing' style thats what it is.

Direct, thats about all I can say about it. i would say 'Boredom' go out there and bore the opposition to death, when they are finally half asleep hit them with the counter long ball. I can't see anything that jumps out as a particular style but its direct. Long ball, free kicks in our half launched into the oppo box. yeah i guess it can be easy for a lot of people to label us a long ball team, but then you get down to it and think it over, our long balls are far too horrifically poor , which leads to the conclusion the team and manager don't train solely for long balls. So you scatch your head and think we dont pass the ball short that much either, we dont try to keep the ball either,... what style is this? its fucking relegation fodder style. no question.

Direct, thats about all I can say about it. i would say 'Boredom' go out there and bore the opposition to death, when they are finally half asleep hit them with the counter long ball.

Expectations seem high round these parts. With an effective transfer budget of zero, a chairman actually taking £30m OUT of the club over a couple of years, the lowest paid manager in the league, and a bench full of geriatrics/kids, what makes you think the chairman shares your ambition for getting anywhere and being a good side? expecting us not to be in a relegation fight is not high expectation.

think most would agree, not only is he inept, he is a liability quite honestly.

What Change do you prefer to Shola? Williamson? Perch? Gosling? You have a problem with the tools here, not the workman. Of course you dont. You set the team up to pass, to move, to keep the ball. Pardew does none of those. He sets the team up to be tight, rigid and not give much away. Then he hopes a bit of magic will get a goal. Now that is fine if when you set up like we do, if you do keep it tight, but 67 goals conceded tells you he can't do that to well. Pardew has a decent squad at his disposal, lacking a striker which is ridiculous tbh. But overall to be so close to relegation is telling of his lack of ability. A question you've not answered (my apologises if i've missed it), our style of play is dreadful, our GK hoofing it into the box from 50/60 yards out, a tactic has never ever worked. Pardew is responsible for that, to keep trying something that is so poor. Pardew is a terrible manager at getting a team to play good, passing football. Is he not ? he is a terrible manager at getting results without luck thats what it comes down to, and the turgid boring negative s*** he brings to the table just further compounds his situation at the club. I understand why people are blaming Ashley etc, but this season is down to Pardew and his tactics, to say otherwise is flying in the face of all the evidence and plain old common sense. exactly, sure the owner, players, coaches share some of the blame, but ultimately what we are seeing on the field barely even merit the performance and ability of a midtable championship side. the players we got are quite a bit better than a championship team, some on here keep telling us the lack of quality we got, all i know is those players we got are more than capable of being in the top half of the table for the majority of the season.

What Change do you prefer to Shola? Williamson? Perch? Gosling? You have a problem with the tools here, not the workman. Of course you dont. You set the team up to pass, to move, to keep the ball. Pardew does none of those. He sets the team up to be tight, rigid and not give much away. Then he hopes a bit of magic will get a goal. Now that is fine if when you set up like we do, if you do keep it tight, but 67 goals conceded tells you he can't do that to well. Pardew has a decent squad at his disposal, lacking a striker which is ridiculous tbh. But overall to be so close to relegation is telling of his lack of ability. A question you've not answered (my apologises if i've missed it), our style of play is dreadful, our GK hoofing it into the box from 50/60 yards out, a tactic has never ever worked. Pardew is responsible for that, to keep trying something that is so poor. Pardew is a terrible manager at getting a team to play good, passing football. Is he not ? he is a terrible manager at getting results without luck thats what it comes down to, and the turgid boring negative shit he brings to the table just further compounds his situation at the club.

The irony of your post. Lol Sorry I couldn't help it. I know, never mind, we haven't had enough iron knees since Demba. Very good

The irony of your post. Lol Sorry I couldn't help it.

Yep its great stuff.. "We almost got relegated ok so stop being negative in here" Ever think you could contribute more to the thread yourself? My contribution are no more than yours lol OMG ur posts are amazeballs! I'm no longer down with the kids, whatever that means, thank you I have moments.

Yep its great stuff.. "We almost got relegated ok so stop being negative in here" Ever think you could contribute more to the thread yourself? My contribution are no more than yours lol

Yep its great stuff.. "We almost got relegated ok so stop being negative in here"

Even talks of having new coaches brought in for Pardew lol It's laughable.

Strange thing to say after finishing 5th. How has he lowered expectations? Nobody believes anything he says do they? Yes look at this typical ian w response. Like he doesn't know the answer to his own question. Thanks, that clears it up. You're welcome

Been looking into this. I thought 4 % was awful. I compared it with previous seasons. 12% in 10/11. 6% in 11/12. Very damning of Pardew. But then, how did we manage so many shots within 6 yards back then? We pumped balls into Carroll, and he knocked them down for people to follow up at close range. It's the same tactic that Allardyce is using at West Ham now....and they sit top of the chart for "shots from within the 6 yard box" this year. I don't think Allardyce's brand of football is particularly easy on the eye. Then you can compare us to Spurs. People are very impressed with Villas Boas this year, aren't they? But they manage a similarly paltry 5% of THEIR shots from within 6 yards. You might think that means they just create more within the 18 yard box, but no.....we take 50% of shots from outside of the box...they take 55% of theirs from outside the box. Dreary me

We could play with 2 extra men 4-4-4 and get the same turgid shit.

Strange thing to say after finishing 5th. How has he lowered expectations? Nobody believes anything he says do they? Yes look at this typical ian w response. Like he doesn't know the answer to his own question.

Turgid, negative, long ball, defensive, all these have been used to describe our team. Most accurate would be, 'boring as fuck' If our own fans find our own team sleep inducing. I wonder what the neutrals feel when they got to watch this shower.

There is one thing Pardew managed to achieve. Lowered expectation. Significantly. Fucking dodgy salesman.