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10 years ago Ashley met Shearer for contract talks where out of the blue he said "I'm selling up". Then stories came out in the media that he wanted to keep Shearer, but he also leaked details of wage demands etc to the press while never getting back to Shearer. He didn't sell the club. This summer he met Rafa for contract talks where we don't yet know what he said, then the takeover rumours start up, then someone leaked to Sky that Rafa was heading to the training ground the other week. Will he sell this time? Eerily familiar pattern forming here.
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Luke Edwards showing what a colossal cunt he is with that article. Imagine penning something with the tone of blaming Rafa at this time. Fucking disgraceful.
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Just seen this article about how Rafa pushed Torres to become the player he was (it's an old interview republished). To think we may not have this man with us soon ffs: https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/fernando-torres-rafa-benitez-liverpool-retires-chelsea-best-strikers-world
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Ahh yeah, his mates Craigy and co at Sky. Enough to make you sick.
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Alas this has always been the case and will continue to be. Quite staggering how many times he's played fans by pretending he's going to sell up. Well, either that or he/they just couldn't quite get a deal done, repeatedly, for 10 years. Isn't this the 7th time he's tried to sell the club, since he bought us? Upshot is that no-one will end up dealing with him, because he can't be trusted. Don't think theres even a definitive number tbh It's fucking tiresome though, the script always seems to go the same way too.
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Alas this has always been the case and will continue to be. Quite staggering how many times he's played fans by pretending he's going to sell up. Well, either that or he/they just couldn't quite get a deal done, repeatedly, for 10 years.
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If anyone accepts that (especially with the new kit deal and sponsorship deals coming up next year) then they are not the right people to lead the club forward. Agree about Kenyon as he was like a common whore trying to get the money together so that he could meet the asking price; and he failed badly at it. He'll 10000000% choose the deal that represents his long term interests best. Bearing in mind we are a profit making enterprise, he could tie in some long term revenue streams through NUFC, by choosing the most ply-able buyers. Which, if he does sell, is certainly what he'll do. If there's a s**** owner that suits him, that's what we'll end up with. I still think it will be BZG as for one the others have shown they can't even meet his asking price. Time will tell though and we should know one way or the other by the 30th. I hope you're right, if only, because they've got no obvious affiliation to Ashley. Kenyon has. We need a clear break. Even if the new buyers have to pay slightly over the odds to rid us of him. What affiliation to Ashley does Kenyon have out of interest? Don't think I've heard that before.
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So Caulkin doesn't seem to think BZG are as far along as they've been making out then. Only hope seems to be one of the other supposedly interested parties gets a deal done.
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You're a WUM. How has he not made money owning us? Go on tell us all. If he loans us money, we owe it him back. He's been getting advertising (around £8 million a year) free, taking profit from sales of merchandise. If he ever wants to sell us, he'll make a hefty profit. But no he's not made a penny. Poor Mike eh.
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This. I cannot comprehend how anyone can think he'd sell his only guaranteed profitable business in order to support a litany of failing ones. Where is his profit the club is 111 million pound in debt. He hasn't made one penny from running NUFC. Have a look at the accounts man and please show me where Mike Ashley has made a profit from the club since his initial investment. Please do try though :lol: He's made a lot more than a penny, that's not to say it'll show in the accounts. How you do not get this I do not know. Show me then, it was stated on here that Ashley would not sell up as he has will continue to make his yearly profit out of NUFC. The accounts show this is not the case, granted I totally accept it's due to absolute mismanagement when buying the club and the two relegation's. I don't know the full extent of it to be honest, I don't think anyone will until he's long gone. However, free advertising for Sports Direct for 10+ years for one (supposed to be paying for it now, but how much money will the club actually see from this?), Sports Direct making the bulk of profit from merchandising, the sale of club land needed for expansion just to name a few ways he benefits. A close look at what he did at Rangers would probably give a better idea, but to say he hasn't made a penny out of owning us is just wrong. He hasnt made any money owning us. Not a chance.
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This. I cannot comprehend how anyone can think he'd sell his only guaranteed profitable business in order to support a litany of failing ones. Where is his profit the club is 111 million pound in debt. He hasn't made one penny from running NUFC. Have a look at the accounts man and please show me where Mike Ashley has made a profit from the club since his initial investment. Please do try though :lol: He's made a lot more than a penny, that's not to say it'll show in the accounts. How you do not get this I do not know. Show me then, it was stated on here that Ashley would not sell up as he has will continue to make his yearly profit out of NUFC. The accounts show this is not the case, granted I totally accept it's due to absolute mismanagement when buying the club and the two relegation's. I don't know the full extent of it to be honest, I don't think anyone will until he's long gone. However, free advertising for Sports Direct for 10+ years for one (supposed to be paying for it now, but how much money will the club actually see from this?), Sports Direct making the bulk of profit from merchandising, the sale of club land needed for expansion just to name a few ways he benefits. A close look at what he did at Rangers would probably give a better idea, but to say he hasn't made a penny out of owning us is just wrong.
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This. I cannot comprehend how anyone can think he'd sell his only guaranteed profitable business in order to support a litany of failing ones. Where is his profit the club is 111 million pound in debt. He hasn't made one penny from running NUFC. Have a look at the accounts man and please show me where Mike Ashley has made a profit from the club since his initial investment. Please do try though :lol: He's made a lot more than a penny, that's not to say it'll show in the accounts. How you do not get this I do not know.
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This. I cannot comprehend how anyone can think he'd sell his only guaranteed profitable business in order to support a litany of failing ones. Where is his profit the club is 111 million pound in debt. He hasn't made one penny from running NUFC.
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The club are proven liars man. the assertion was the club never confirmed it, not that the club lied when they confirmed it Yeah, I'm out now. He seems to change his story. Apologies for the last page Tbf to him 4 people have now pulled him up on it and he’s doubling down got to be a WUM They haven't confirmed it publicly, theres no comeback on them if the bit of 'info' they're source fed into the Chronicle turns out to be false. So I wouldn't call that confirming it really, others may. Why the fuck some are putting any importance on it is beyond me though. Club can't be trusted either way.
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You claimed the club hadn't confirmed anything, then when you're shown to be wrong (again) you move to "well they're liars". Surely you can see why people just aren't taking you seriously? An off the record briefing is hardly "confirming" anything. I'm also pointing out that they are liars.
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Caulkin is straight down the line, he's one of the best covering us. But he's not saying what some people have convinced themselves is the truth unfortunately. What is it that people have convinced themselves is the truth? Basically he’s arsey because people arnt as negative as him. Take no notice Yeah I know, similar to waster. I just like to question what they are actually talking about when they give a vague statement based on nothing. They made a statement, the club confirmed they're genuine. About as much proof as we can expect at this point. Not sure why some people expect everything to be done in public. I still reckon Mike fuckin it all up is a massive possibility, but I don't see the need to just rubbish all the facts that clearly point to something happening. Well, other than trying to score hipster points on an online forum. Er, the club have confirmed nothing. I'm out, you can keep making things up all you like. There was a line in the Chronicle (I know) when BZG released their first statement saying "However, the club have told us that the discussions are genuine". I'm not making anything up. Yes and the club have been found guilty in court of intentionally misleading the press, public and fans. Also, a word in an ear does not equal confirming anything. No point discussing things with you. You’d argue night was day So the club have been proven in court as liars, but you will still believe them. Couldn't make this shit up.
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Caulkin is straight down the line, he's one of the best covering us. But he's not saying what some people have convinced themselves is the truth unfortunately. What is it that people have convinced themselves is the truth? Basically he’s arsey because people arnt as negative as him. Take no notice Yeah I know, similar to waster. I just like to question what they are actually talking about when they give a vague statement based on nothing. They made a statement, the club confirmed they're genuine. About as much proof as we can expect at this point. Not sure why some people expect everything to be done in public. I still reckon Mike fuckin it all up is a massive possibility, but I don't see the need to just rubbish all the facts that clearly point to something happening. Well, other than trying to score hipster points on an online forum. Er, the club have confirmed nothing. I'm out, you can keep making things up all you like. There was a line in the Chronicle (I know) when BZG released their first statement saying "However, the club have told us that the discussions are genuine". I'm not making anything up. Yes and the club have been found guilty in court of intentionally misleading the press, public and fans. Also, a word in an ear does not equal confirming anything.
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The club are proven liars man.
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BZG have claimed to have provided proof of funds. Theres no actual evidence to prove this. True but i bet you think they set up Monochrome acquisitions for a laugh. You are being negative for the sake of being negative Well it doesn't cost much to set up a company ffs. I suppose you believe that we're definitely sold seeing as they set up a company eh? It's Mike Ashley ffs, the most likely outcome is the one we've seen multiple times. No I don’t think we are definitely sold but the company was set up for a reason and not for a laugh. Yeah but what if Ashley let them think they had a deal agreed and then backtracked? I just don't see this running as smoothly as most seem to think it will. Another statement based on nowt. Who thinks this is going to run smoothly? Literally everyone has reservations about Ashley fucking it up. It's an opinion not a statement. "as most seem to think it will" That's not an opinion, that's you stating that most people think it will run smoothly. Who are these people who think it's going to run smoothly? Wow OK you got me on my wording. OK if it's replaced by "those who think BZG will own the club soon"?
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BZG have claimed to have provided proof of funds. Theres no actual evidence to prove this. True but i bet you think they set up Monochrome acquisitions for a laugh. You are being negative for the sake of being negative Well it doesn't cost much to set up a company ffs. I suppose you believe that we're definitely sold seeing as they set up a company eh? It's Mike Ashley ffs, the most likely outcome is the one we've seen multiple times. No I don’t think we are definitely sold but the company was set up for a reason and not for a laugh. Yeah but what if Ashley let them think they had a deal agreed and then backtracked? I just don't see this running as smoothly as most seem to think it will. Another statement based on nowt. Who thinks this is going to run smoothly? Literally everyone has reservations about Ashley fucking it up. It's an opinion not a statement.
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The club did nothing of the sort because they're not genuine, there's been no serious bid and a takeover won't happen this summer. That's not pessimism - it's the reality staring you in the face. It's going to seem so brutally obvious in hindsight. It is brutally obvious now tbh.
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Caulkin is straight down the line, he's one of the best covering us. But he's not saying what some people have convinced themselves is the truth unfortunately. What is it that people have convinced themselves is the truth? Basically he’s arsey because people arnt as negative as him. Take no notice Yeah I know, similar to waster. I just like to question what they are actually talking about when they give a vague statement based on nothing. They made a statement, the club confirmed they're genuine. About as much proof as we can expect at this point. Not sure why some people expect everything to be done in public. I still reckon Mike fuckin it all up is a massive possibility, but I don't see the need to just rubbish all the facts that clearly point to something happening. Well, other than trying to score hipster points on an online forum. Er, the club have confirmed nothing. I'm out, you can keep making things up all you like.
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BZG have claimed to have provided proof of funds. Theres no actual evidence to prove this. True but i bet you think they set up Monochrome acquisitions for a laugh. You are being negative for the sake of being negative Well it doesn't cost much to set up a company ffs. I suppose you believe that we're definitely sold seeing as they set up a company eh? It's Mike Ashley ffs, the most likely outcome is the one we've seen multiple times. No I don’t think we are definitely sold but the company was set up for a reason and not for a laugh. Yeah but what if Ashley let them think they had a deal agreed and then backtracked? I just don't see this running as smoothly as most seem to think it will.
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i suppose their answer to that is the only thing suggesting it's as far along as BZG claim is an article in the sun and two statements they've made themselves, caulkin et al have said for ages talks have been ongoing with multiple parties seems to me that either BZG are full of shite or they're further along in the process than caulkin et al know about and club insiders have stopped briefing them or their ITKs don't know anything to be able to brief them off the record How did we go from being sold, to nearly sold, to now there are other interested parties? It's a complete clusterfuck, like the previous takeover sagas.
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BZG have claimed to have provided proof of funds. Theres no actual evidence to prove this. True but i bet you think they set up Monochrome acquisitions for a laugh. You are being negative for the sake of being negative Well it doesn't cost much to set up a company ffs. I suppose you believe that we're definitely sold seeing as they set up a company eh? It's Mike Ashley ffs, the most likely outcome is the one we've seen multiple times. Well no, I'd imagine not, but why on god's earth would some sheik from the middle east team up with Ashley to troll Newcastle fans, why would that happen? I'm not saying this is the case, just that nobody has a fucking clue whats going on in reality.