Shays Given Tim Flowers

Starting to think this is N'Zogbia mark two. Bid for a former player, create a false market, enjoy sell-on clause.

listening back to JFK's rant.  Its been said before and it will be said again.  But f***ing hell this clown was our manager :anguish: :anguish:

 

 

 

 

 

I love it when the press officer says "can we just draw a line under this and move on." Then one of the Journo's just says "What, move on to not doing any more press conferences." 

The English club would like to incorporate Douglas and has 4.5 million euros for him. ,, I know nothing of a bid and not my agent, "commented Douglas after FC Twente - Inter Turku (1-1).,, Also of Twente I've heard nothing about. For me it's not concrete. I just want to stay at FC Twente. "

The Brazilian defender, now a naturalized Netherlands, beating Inter Turku for the first time this preparation 90 minutes. 'I'm not quite fit, but it went well. They also dropped a lot in, so a defender was not a hard race. With the result, I am not satisfied, we have had more scoring.

The Ameobis are Newcastle's answer to the Kennedys.

Can't believe people are falling for Cabaye's post man.

Say it loud and there's music playing,

Say it soft and it's almost like praying.

Anita,

I'll never stop saying Anita!

The most beautiful sound I ever heard.

Anita.

McClaren can do one. Twice he has been running his mouth off in the press. Just looks pathetic. All for managers trying to get best price for a player but he's starting to sound like Phil Brown.

Don't we look after agents a lot more than we used to? Put them up in nice Hotels and that? This has been an approach used by clubs for a while, Shakhtar Donestk are one example. Certainly we seem to be 'playing the game' with agents a bit more than we used to. Definitely an Ashley thing as evidenced by the initial appointments of Tony Jiminez and Jeff Vetere and the Nacho Gonzalez affair. Its good (and smart) to see us greasing the wheel. Look at the turnover league table. This is one way of us at least being able to attempt to level the playing field.

 

I doubt it - Stretford even had an office in SJP and employed Shepherd's son while Mckay and Shepherd were also said to be close.

 

if anything the gonzalez affair was just another low point in the club's history and i'm glad we've moved on from such amateur nonsense.

Fair point regarding Stretford and McKay. That being said there is probably fairly decent grounds for suspecting there was a fair bit of kicking back going on. Also Mike probably has a bit more nouse for getting things done than Freddy.  I may well be wrong but aren't the aforementioned also responsible for predominantly English based players? I think you can cite our knowledge of Cabaye's clause and the complete lack of interest from other clubs at that fee as being evidence of strings being pulled somewhere.

I mean its all speculation but I find it hard to believe that we can be this efficient in the transfer market without knowing who to talk to and how to get things done.

Don't we look after agents a lot more than we used to? Put them up in nice Hotels and that? This has been an approach used by clubs for a while, Shakhtar Donestk are one example. Certainly we seem to be 'playing the game' with agents a bit more than we used to. Definitely an Ashley thing as evidenced by the initial appointments of Tony Jiminez and Jeff Vetere and the Nacho Gonzalez affair. Its good (and smart) to see us greasing the wheel. Look at the turnover league table. This is one way of us at least being able to attempt to level the playing field.

We're going to make an offer he cannot refuse.

This place is so pissy in the Summer

It's the whole internet.

Who's Vierra?  Is he any good?

Only seen him a couple of times in pre-season. He looks like a good header of the ball, likes to spray it out wide, not physical but energetic and composed. Possibly the next Guy Ipoua. 

Early days yet though and I am loathe to draw wild conclusions.

Do you think when Pardew drew up his list of players, Carroll was on it?

I think the vast majority of transfers in top-flight football are in the pipeline for a considerable period of time. I would very much doubt the club is moving off the back of Rodgers presser a few days ago.

Stick a pony in me pocket

I'll fetch the suitcase from the van

Cause if you want the best 'uns

And you don't ask questions

Then brother I'm your man

Where it all comes from

Is a mystery

It's like the changing of the seasons

And the tides of the sea

But heres the one thats driving me berserk

Why do only fools and horses work

Seriously though, a list of players has been drawn up and money decided upon. Pards gets asked about negotiations he has nothing to do with whilst on pre-season and says these negotiations are taking place at corporate level. Crazy.

Re the Inter thing I think it's important to keep in mind that he is likely to be negotiating terms with 'a club' very shortly. His hand is strengthened the more suitors he has.

Well, there's no law against using that term though, is there?!

Considering it was supposed to be an offensive term towards blacks can whites take offence to it too? I mean it suggests there is something inherently wrong with being white. Also I know 'wigger' is a slang term for whites acting 'black'* but 'choc ice' seems like a bit more fun, maybe its time whites came up with a new comparable phrase. The ferdinand/cole thing is a symbol of just how much the media is driving this. 

*as in the negative stereotype of a minority of blacks.

From the little we have seen so far looks like a good acquisition. Obviously raw but seems to be very high tempo and energetic. I would consider myself a budding Bigirimaniac.

Football isn't racist, it's unsavoury and ignorant.

Emre vs Reading, like HBA v Bolton only without the pace for a nice pass into bottom corner finish.

If I went into the street and racially abused someone, and a copper saw it, I'd expect to find myself in legal bother, too. The fact the FA dealt with it doesn't really come into it in terms of the application of the law.

Put it into perspective with what ISN'T taken to court.

This is nothing more than bloody name calling, and pandering to a pack of self-serving politically correct types. Even Ferdinand wasn't too happy about it being blow up in the manner it has been.

There are people who have been TERRORIZED in their homes and the ones doing it haven't been taken to court. This is a mockery. A turd like Terry is even being held up as being victimized himself - where does it end ? "He THOUGHT in a racist way" ? He "looked at me in a racist manner" ? This kind of thing makes the worst kind of creep into a victim.

Welcome to the Folly of Public Order Offences. I'm not saying the FA shouldn't be hard on him btw, if they have a policy on tackling racism on football then it would make sense for them to make an example out of him.

From what I've read, a half time submission of "no case to answer" seems apt. Seems a flakey case to me.

 

No doubt the bench will fudge it, call Terry's defence and them acquit after trial.

The difficulty is that he seems to have admitted using the language. Whilst the Crown's case may well be flakey the fact that he has admitted using the words almost certainly means there is a case for Terry to answer, which he probably will in giving evidence.

Today reported defence has called for the case to be thrown out because of lack of evidence, despite yesterday Terry admitted he said what he has been alleged to have said (he claims he was being 'sarcastic' I think he has mixed up 'sarcasm' with racist in his head) I do not understand how that can constitute a lack of evidence...

Seems to be a pretty fruitless application but Terry is paying a Silk on a private basis so he's probably looking to bill for as much as possible....

Whole trial just shows how badly focussed the racism debate is in this Country. Large part of the problem is the media. This isn't racism, its just idiots being idiots to each other.

May be Giggs but Gary Birtles. 

Get it in the boxxxx...

 

JUST PUT IT IN

 

PUT IT INNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

His commentary on our last game of the season was diabolical. I watched the game with an Evertonian who was similarly unimpressed.

May be Giggs but Gary Birtles.