Bellis80

It’s interesting people think he’ll be better coming for balls over the top to Salah when the last time he did it he got sent off.

That is madness. Even if Dubravka is playing the cup games having a goalie only playing one game in weeks when the other goalie isn’t any better at the moment is daft.

I can’t remember but used to have a lot longer than 11 days to renew as well didn’t you?

It’s more that it makes so little difference there is no need to do it.

Putting them up every summer while they still don’t have a sponsor on the training kit is taking the piss.

No but Brighton are better than us because they batter us regularly.

He’s so bad and if he has any decision to make it’s usually the wrong one but after the red card yesterday he was the only one switched on and trying to organise people. Which is a credit to him and very worrying about the rest of them.

Personally I don’t think the atmosphere at home has got much worse. But everyone else thinks it has and the only thing that has changed recently is the ballot and season ticket holders not being members. So it’s something to do with that or the team just being worse and is fuck all we can do about that.

It probably isn’t the reason but I think it’s reasonable to suggest a season ticket holder is likely to know people that are desperate to go rather than a randomer getting in through a ballot. Same with away tickets. It wasn’t really right how people were passing them on but they were going to people who were desperate to go and making the most effort.

It’s getting worse and, probably coincidentally, 30,000 people had memberships taken away from them at the same time as well as the ballot.

Away ends are way worse now since they were stopped passing tickets on as well. He’s got a point.

You wait and take what you can get like loads of people had to do previously when you couldn’t get one.

In relation to cup final tickets I don’t think it is unfair. A few years ago if someone said a member could get a cup final ticket ahead of a season ticket holder, regardless of how many cup games they’d done that season, you’d think they were mental. Members want loyalty points but the loyalty points for away games weren’t considered at all. And they want access to away games which would mean taking tickets away from those with loyalty points as well. Nearly all the arguments for members, other than a waiting list, is them wanting the benefits of a season ticket by taking the same away from season ticket holders.

Other clubs do it because it makes more money and they don’t have many season ticket holders so they can offer an attractive membership that can offer cup final tickets. We have more or as many as any cup final allocation so can’t do it. Season tickets are cheaper because you’re paying for every game months in advance with no idea what day or time the game will be. i understand why people who gave up season tickets and are still desperate to go to games aren’t happy, and there should be a way of putting them ahead if more season tickets come up, but they knew exactly how the system worked. It’s the reason most people kept them when it was no fun going.

Chelsea and Liverpool can both allocate more tickets to members because they don’t have many season ticket holders. If every season ticket holder took a cup final ticket they would still have 10k spare near enough. They can offer an attractive membership scheme without affecting people that go all the time. It’s not the same here. The thinking that season ticket holders are just entitled to their own seat for 19 games a season when they’re forking out months in advance for games they have no idea what day or time they will kick off (and the cup scheme has forced them to do the same for cup games as well) is mental.