TheBrownBottle

Can’t imagine a worse fit than Mitrovic

That would be my favoured spot, tbh

Mainly because Ashley gave it to his own company and they weren’t exactly popular round these parts. And you’d still be talking money for nothing.

Hope so - five years is a long time to lock that deal in place

Yep, no doubt they do. Just saying that I don’t think that to date they’ve maximised the potential commercial revenues. This season’s are likely to be roughly on a par with Everton’s.

I agree NDM is more knowledgeable than any of us. But it doesn’t mean he’s more knowledgeable than the PL’s legal team. We’ll have to wait and see mate, I think NDM has won himself more work via his visibility as well as his knowledge.

They’ve made three deals of real significance - all relating to the kit. Two were PIF sponsorships - Sela and Noon. Not for huge sums (thanks to ‘FMV’), but hardly difficult to do. The other was getting adidas onboard as kit manufacturer. Again, not exactly difficult - their primary business is sportswear, and every club in the world has a kit manufacturer- and while it is of course much higher than the old Castore deal (not hard - Ashley’s deals were never any good) - if they are serious about being challengers, then a five year kit deal at a much lower income than their future competitors looks like a much better deal for adidas. Ashley somehow shrank commercial revenues at NUFC over 15 years (not allowing for inflation, which made it even worse) at a time where every club saw explosions in income - growing them wasn’t exactly a challenge. I would’ve expected absolute maximisation of all potential commercial revenue streams in the two plus years they’ve been in situ. Training ground sponsorship, stadium sponsorship, training kit sponsorship, large numbers of partnerships with various other companies. Even John Hall era NUFC opened up multiple club shops to try to increase commercials. In comparison to Ashley, it’s night and day. But Ashley is no benchmark.

In fairness to BDB: BDB PL win % at NUFC - 52% Livramento - 50% (I also of course think Tino’s a better player)

Yep, agreed. And unlike Chelsea (space being at a premium in west London), we’re choosing to box ourselves in and limit what is possible. Which is why if PIF is serious, we won’t be at SJP in the medium term.

Never said that they were - but this was the finding against UEFA too. They can’t prevent clubs leaving, and membership is ultimately voluntary. No-one forces a club to be in the PL. I don’t think this is quite as open-and-shut as you’re assuming.

Seconded I don’t give two shites what that daft cunt thinks.

I think we already know what the PL’s legal defence vs Forest will be. That it isn’t a restriction of trade - Forest are free to spend as much money as they want. They just can’t be a member of the PL while doing it - they can leave and earn what they want if they wish. They aren’t forced to be the in PL. I don’t think FFP’s legal abolition via commercial law is as shut and closed as many may think.

And what’s that got to do with this? What does that mean?

I do enjoy Simon Jordan - a man who’s time at Palace ended in administration - telling everyone that unlike him they have no experience in running a football club. Not sure he’s the one I’d take advice from if I did. I’ve no issue with FFP - my issue is with it not being independently governed, which also results in a lack of flexibility; the current rules set only to protect the status quo.

I seem to remember loads of them gloating that they’d go and buy Man Utd / Inter / Marseille now. They forgot that they were dyed in the wool Amnesty activists temporarily. Then they remembered again when the takeover was suddenly back on.

It’s one of the big criticisms I’d have is their slowness in actually getting commercials in. Especially some seriously low-hanging fruit. I’m not at all confident re the maximising revenue element to date.

This is also why the stadium isn’t fit for purpose. There isn’t the money in the NE to raise ticket prices to be on a par with London. The club would need extensive corporate areas to compete - selling boxes for silly money is how to do it. We don’t have the space to do this at present.

We should go back to blue shorts if we’re changing short colours. Looks great I reckon. Plus we did win lots of things in blue shorts.

Classic

An expensive and badly-thought out folly is exactly the place for those building for me.

Except it wouldn’t be anything like it at all We’re going to sell players at some stage lads. Just don’t give Eddie hassle on the SJP steps when we do

Got you makes sense In terms of FFP it wouldn’t be an issue necessarily - but you’d need to ensure future revenues cover you.

Yes, ‘bring on your Hearts, your Hibs, your Celtic’ is one I knew as a teenager. There was another version which had the same rest of the verse, but started with ‘Bring on Sunderland and Arsenal’ instead.

Have to say, I’m in the ‘don’t like NUFC in white shorts & socks’ camp. Would rather wear an away kit.

Boro and Birmingham did - not Leeds & Blackburn though