Tom_NUFC Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 London - Newcastle Birmingham - Newcastle Liverpool - Newcastle Manchester - Newcastle Sheffield - Newcastle Glasgow - Newcastle Wild Card - Newcastle This, but taking it purely on face value. London - Charlton Birmingham - Villa Liverpool - Tranmere (I have many relatives down there and they are big Tranmere fans, so I've actually seen them play a number of times down the years) Manchester - Man City Sheffield - Dunno. No preference towards either, but probably Wednesday as Sheff U wear Red and White stripes - and I automatically find red and white stripes repulsive Glasgow - Partick, can't be doing with the Old Firm b*llocks Wild Card - Hibs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
div-s- Posted September 14, 2007 Share Posted September 14, 2007 London - Fulham, nice traditional ground, shame about the football (watch other teams) Birmingham - Aston Villa. Liverpool - Don't like either... Manchester - Man city Sheffield - Sheff Wed Glasgow - Bigoted s****, train to edinburgh -Hibees Wildcard - Berwick Rangers (just for the sex and danger!) hibs are just as bigoted as rangers or celtic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Why are people picking Arsenal for 'the quality of the football' and not picking Man Utd who also play some of the best football in the country? Man U have more glory supporters and the majority of there supporters come from either Ireland or London. Bollocks, tbh. ManYoo always get told Citeh have more supporters in Manchester, and that's shite. Fact is they're the most popular club in the world: the majority of those may be glory supporters originally but there are few if any clubs in the world who could consistently sell as many tickets as they do. They have a lot of glory supporters, as do any club who are successful, bu they also have a huge and loyal fanbase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross magoo Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 London - Fulham, nice traditional ground, shame about the football (watch other teams) Birmingham - Aston Villa. Liverpool - Don't like either... Manchester - Man city Sheffield - Sheff Wed Glasgow - Bigoted s****, train to edinburgh -Hibees Wildcard - Berwick Rangers (just for the sex and danger!) hibs are just as bigoted as rangers or celtic To be fair mate, they're not. Hearts and Hibs fans (for all their flaws) are sometimes capable of having a laugh (in my experience anyway). Rangers and Celtic fans are absolutely 100% conviced that everybody else in the whole world actually gives a rat's arse about their silly little rivalry. It's rather sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 London - Fulham, nice traditional ground, shame about the football (watch other teams) Birmingham - Aston Villa. Liverpool - Don't like either... Manchester - Man city Sheffield - Sheff Wed Glasgow - Bigoted s****, train to edinburgh -Hibees Wildcard - Berwick Rangers (just for the sex and danger!) hibs are just as bigoted as rangers or celtic Not really. Neither are Hearts but they are worse than Hibs- booing the minutes silence for the Pope etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 London - Fulham, nice traditional ground, shame about the football (watch other teams) Birmingham - Aston Villa. Liverpool - Don't like either... Manchester - Man city Sheffield - Sheff Wed Glasgow - Bigoted s****, train to edinburgh -Hibees Wildcard - Berwick Rangers (just for the sex and danger!) hibs are just as bigoted as rangers or celtic To be fair mate, they're not. Hearts and Hibs fans (for all their flaws) are sometimes capable of having a laugh (in my experience anyway). Rangers and Celtic fans are absolutely 100% conviced that everybody else in the whole world actually gives a rat's arse about their silly little rivalry. It's rather sad. That is generalisation of all Rangers and Celtic fans. They are not all bigots, just like not all Newcastle fans chanted crap about Mido. If you had actually been to a Rangers or Celtic game you would realise that, but maybe its just easier to follow the tabloid press. Anyway back to the question and seeing that Newcastle can't be the answer to the question London - Millwall (mad people) Birmingham - Do I have to go to Birmingham? Yes? Ok then I guess West Brom for no real reason at all. Liverpool - Tranmere Rovers Manchester - Preston North End Sheffield - Rotherham Glasgow - Rangers (born a blue-nose through Mam being a weegie) Wild card - Bedlington Terriers if Newcastle didn't have a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross magoo Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 London - Fulham, nice traditional ground, shame about the football (watch other teams) Birmingham - Aston Villa. Liverpool - Don't like either... Manchester - Man city Sheffield - Sheff Wed Glasgow - Bigoted s****, train to edinburgh -Hibees Wildcard - Berwick Rangers (just for the sex and danger!) hibs are just as bigoted as rangers or celtic To be fair mate, they're not. Hearts and Hibs fans (for all their flaws) are sometimes capable of having a laugh (in my experience anyway). Rangers and Celtic fans are absolutely 100% conviced that everybody else in the whole world actually gives a rat's arse about their silly little rivalry. It's rather sad. That is generalisation of all Rangers and Celtic fans. They are not all bigots, just like not all Newcastle fans chanted crap about Mido. If you had actually been to a Rangers or Celtic game you would realise that, but maybe its just easier to follow the tabloid press. I don't read tabloids. And I work for Dundee United on match days so i've been to more games involving Rangers and Celtic than I care to remember. So that's that one blown out of the water for the f****** cynics. To answer your point, yes it would be a generalisation to label Newcastle fans for the racist chanting because it doesn't happen at every game Newcastle play. If it did then it wouldn't be a generalisation. But it doesn't. Rangers' and Celtic's travelling support sing their bigoted tripe every time they come to Tannadice. I can't remember a single time when it didn't happen. That's the difference. When it happened with Newcastle it was an isolated incedent (not that i'm trying to justify it). With those two it's a culture and for many of their fans it's the only reason they watch the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 London - Fulham, nice traditional ground, shame about the football (watch other teams) Birmingham - Aston Villa. Liverpool - Don't like either... Manchester - Man city Sheffield - Sheff Wed Glasgow - Bigoted s****, train to edinburgh -Hibees Wildcard - Berwick Rangers (just for the sex and danger!) hibs are just as bigoted as rangers or celtic To be fair mate, they're not. Hearts and Hibs fans (for all their flaws) are sometimes capable of having a laugh (in my experience anyway). Rangers and Celtic fans are absolutely 100% conviced that everybody else in the whole world actually gives a rat's arse about their silly little rivalry. It's rather sad. That is generalisation of all Rangers and Celtic fans. They are not all bigots, just like not all Newcastle fans chanted crap about Mido. If you had actually been to a Rangers or Celtic game you would realise that, but maybe its just easier to follow the tabloid press. I don't read tabloids. And I work for Dundee United on match days so i've been to more games involving Rangers and Celtic than I care to remember. So that's that one blown out of the water for the f****** cynics. To answer your point, yes it would be a generalisation to label Newcastle fans for the racist chanting because it doesn't happen at every game Newcastle play. If it did then it wouldn't be a generalisation. But it doesn't. Rangers' and Celtic's travelling support sing their bigoted tripe every time they come to Tannadice. I can't remember a single time when it didn't happen. That's the difference. When it happened with Newcastle it was an isolated incedent (not that i'm trying to justify it). With those two it's a culture and for many of their fans it's the only reason they watch the team. But there are many of the fans of the Old Firm who do not subscribe to the bigotry shite. They are actually more interested in the football. I just don't like the generalisation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross magoo Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 London - Fulham, nice traditional ground, shame about the football (watch other teams) Birmingham - Aston Villa. Liverpool - Don't like either... Manchester - Man city Sheffield - Sheff Wed Glasgow - Bigoted s****, train to edinburgh -Hibees Wildcard - Berwick Rangers (just for the sex and danger!) hibs are just as bigoted as rangers or celtic To be fair mate, they're not. Hearts and Hibs fans (for all their flaws) are sometimes capable of having a laugh (in my experience anyway). Rangers and Celtic fans are absolutely 100% conviced that everybody else in the whole world actually gives a rat's arse about their silly little rivalry. It's rather sad. That is generalisation of all Rangers and Celtic fans. They are not all bigots, just like not all Newcastle fans chanted crap about Mido. If you had actually been to a Rangers or Celtic game you would realise that, but maybe its just easier to follow the tabloid press. I don't read tabloids. And I work for Dundee United on match days so i've been to more games involving Rangers and Celtic than I care to remember. So that's that one blown out of the water for the f****** cynics. To answer your point, yes it would be a generalisation to label Newcastle fans for the racist chanting because it doesn't happen at every game Newcastle play. If it did then it wouldn't be a generalisation. But it doesn't. Rangers' and Celtic's travelling support sing their bigoted tripe every time they come to Tannadice. I can't remember a single time when it didn't happen. That's the difference. When it happened with Newcastle it was an isolated incedent (not that i'm trying to justify it). With those two it's a culture and for many of their fans it's the only reason they watch the team. But there are many of the fans of the Old Firm who do not subscribe to the bigotry s****. They are actually more interested in the football. I just don't like the generalisation. That's the thing though. We keep hearing about this silent majority but i've honestly never met one of them. If they do exist then they should be trying do do something about it. If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sam Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Manchester - FC United, really respect what they've been doing, turning their back on trophies and brilliant football to stay loyal to the game Good call that, forgot about them. What does "staying loyal to the game" actually mean though? I don't remember them complaining during the nineties when they were outspending everybody and winning everything. They did. The idea for FC United first came about when Rupert Merdoch was thinking of buying them in the late 90s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross magoo Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Manchester - FC United, really respect what they've been doing, turning their back on trophies and brilliant football to stay loyal to the game Good call that, forgot about them. What does "staying loyal to the game" actually mean though? I don't remember them complaining during the nineties when they were outspending everybody and winning everything. They did. The idea for FC United first came about when Rupert Merdoch was thinking of buying them in the late 90s. I didn't realise that. What took them so long? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 London - Fulham, nice traditional ground, shame about the football (watch other teams) Birmingham - Aston Villa. Liverpool - Don't like either... Manchester - Man city Sheffield - Sheff Wed Glasgow - Bigoted s****, train to edinburgh -Hibees Wildcard - Berwick Rangers (just for the sex and danger!) hibs are just as bigoted as rangers or celtic To be fair mate, they're not. Hearts and Hibs fans (for all their flaws) are sometimes capable of having a laugh (in my experience anyway). Rangers and Celtic fans are absolutely 100% conviced that everybody else in the whole world actually gives a rat's arse about their silly little rivalry. It's rather sad. That is generalisation of all Rangers and Celtic fans. They are not all bigots, just like not all Newcastle fans chanted crap about Mido. If you had actually been to a Rangers or Celtic game you would realise that, but maybe its just easier to follow the tabloid press. I don't read tabloids. And I work for Dundee United on match days so i've been to more games involving Rangers and Celtic than I care to remember. So that's that one blown out of the water for the f****** cynics. To answer your point, yes it would be a generalisation to label Newcastle fans for the racist chanting because it doesn't happen at every game Newcastle play. If it did then it wouldn't be a generalisation. But it doesn't. Rangers' and Celtic's travelling support sing their bigoted tripe every time they come to Tannadice. I can't remember a single time when it didn't happen. That's the difference. When it happened with Newcastle it was an isolated incedent (not that i'm trying to justify it). With those two it's a culture and for many of their fans it's the only reason they watch the team. But there are many of the fans of the Old Firm who do not subscribe to the bigotry s****. They are actually more interested in the football. I just don't like the generalisation. That's the thing though. We keep hearing about this silent majority but i've honestly never met one of them. If they do exist then they should be trying do do something about it. If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem and all that. You may not have met one face to face, but hello, I am a rangers fan, and I don't believe I am a bigot. I have never sang sectarian bile at Ibrox(but have seen others who have), I have never attacked a Celtic fan because of their choice of team and my daughter goes to a Roman Catholic Middle School if that has anything to do with anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross magoo Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 London - Fulham, nice traditional ground, shame about the football (watch other teams) Birmingham - Aston Villa. Liverpool - Don't like either... Manchester - Man city Sheffield - Sheff Wed Glasgow - Bigoted s****, train to edinburgh -Hibees Wildcard - Berwick Rangers (just for the sex and danger!) hibs are just as bigoted as rangers or celtic To be fair mate, they're not. Hearts and Hibs fans (for all their flaws) are sometimes capable of having a laugh (in my experience anyway). Rangers and Celtic fans are absolutely 100% conviced that everybody else in the whole world actually gives a rat's arse about their silly little rivalry. It's rather sad. That is generalisation of all Rangers and Celtic fans. They are not all bigots, just like not all Newcastle fans chanted crap about Mido. If you had actually been to a Rangers or Celtic game you would realise that, but maybe its just easier to follow the tabloid press. I don't read tabloids. And I work for Dundee United on match days so i've been to more games involving Rangers and Celtic than I care to remember. So that's that one blown out of the water for the f****** cynics. To answer your point, yes it would be a generalisation to label Newcastle fans for the racist chanting because it doesn't happen at every game Newcastle play. If it did then it wouldn't be a generalisation. But it doesn't. Rangers' and Celtic's travelling support sing their bigoted tripe every time they come to Tannadice. I can't remember a single time when it didn't happen. That's the difference. When it happened with Newcastle it was an isolated incedent (not that i'm trying to justify it). With those two it's a culture and for many of their fans it's the only reason they watch the team. But there are many of the fans of the Old Firm who do not subscribe to the bigotry s****. They are actually more interested in the football. I just don't like the generalisation. That's the thing though. We keep hearing about this silent majority but i've honestly never met one of them. If they do exist then they should be trying do do something about it. If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem and all that. You may not have met one face to face, but hello, I am a rangers fan, and I don't believe I am a bigot. I have never sang sectarian bile at Ibrox(but have seen others who have), I have never attacked a Celtic fan because of their choice of team and my daughter goes to a Roman Catholic Middle School if that has anything to do with anything. I think you missed out a hello there What you're saying is essentially correct in that (allegedly) not every single Infirm fan is a bigot but, as i've said, we keep hearing about this moderate silent majority but they seem to be very reluctant to show themselves. If they were serious about it then they would shout the morons down and start banning them from their buses. But they don't. Failure to do this suggests that they think it's acceptable behaviour and gives grounds for people to "generalise" about them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
div-s- Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 London - Fulham, nice traditional ground, shame about the football (watch other teams) Birmingham - Aston Villa. Liverpool - Don't like either... Manchester - Man city Sheffield - Sheff Wed Glasgow - Bigoted s****, train to edinburgh -Hibees Wildcard - Berwick Rangers (just for the sex and danger!) hibs are just as bigoted as rangers or celtic To be fair mate, they're not. Hearts and Hibs fans (for all their flaws) are sometimes capable of having a laugh (in my experience anyway). Rangers and Celtic fans are absolutely 100% conviced that everybody else in the whole world actually gives a rat's arse about their silly little rivalry. It's rather sad. That is generalisation of all Rangers and Celtic fans. They are not all bigots, just like not all Newcastle fans chanted crap about Mido. If you had actually been to a Rangers or Celtic game you would realise that, but maybe its just easier to follow the tabloid press. I don't read tabloids. And I work for Dundee United on match days so i've been to more games involving Rangers and Celtic than I care to remember. So that's that one blown out of the water for the f****** cynics. To answer your point, yes it would be a generalisation to label Newcastle fans for the racist chanting because it doesn't happen at every game Newcastle play. If it did then it wouldn't be a generalisation. But it doesn't. Rangers' and Celtic's travelling support sing their bigoted tripe every time they come to Tannadice. I can't remember a single time when it didn't happen. That's the difference. When it happened with Newcastle it was an isolated incedent (not that i'm trying to justify it). With those two it's a culture and for many of their fans it's the only reason they watch the team. But there are many of the fans of the Old Firm who do not subscribe to the bigotry s****. They are actually more interested in the football. I just don't like the generalisation. That's the thing though. We keep hearing about this silent majority but i've honestly never met one of them. If they do exist then they should be trying do do something about it. If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem and all that. its the add ons of FTP etc that are bigoted! the sash and loyalist songs are not! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 London - Chelsea Birmingham - Aston Villa Liverpool - Tranmere Manchester - Man United Sheffield - Sheff United Glasgow - Rangers Wildcard - Real Madrid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross magoo Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 London - Fulham, nice traditional ground, shame about the football (watch other teams) Birmingham - Aston Villa. Liverpool - Don't like either... Manchester - Man city Sheffield - Sheff Wed Glasgow - Bigoted s****, train to edinburgh -Hibees Wildcard - Berwick Rangers (just for the sex and danger!) hibs are just as bigoted as rangers or celtic To be fair mate, they're not. Hearts and Hibs fans (for all their flaws) are sometimes capable of having a laugh (in my experience anyway). Rangers and Celtic fans are absolutely 100% conviced that everybody else in the whole world actually gives a rat's arse about their silly little rivalry. It's rather sad. That is generalisation of all Rangers and Celtic fans. They are not all bigots, just like not all Newcastle fans chanted crap about Mido. If you had actually been to a Rangers or Celtic game you would realise that, but maybe its just easier to follow the tabloid press. I don't read tabloids. And I work for Dundee United on match days so i've been to more games involving Rangers and Celtic than I care to remember. So that's that one blown out of the water for the f****** cynics. To answer your point, yes it would be a generalisation to label Newcastle fans for the racist chanting because it doesn't happen at every game Newcastle play. If it did then it wouldn't be a generalisation. But it doesn't. Rangers' and Celtic's travelling support sing their bigoted tripe every time they come to Tannadice. I can't remember a single time when it didn't happen. That's the difference. When it happened with Newcastle it was an isolated incedent (not that i'm trying to justify it). With those two it's a culture and for many of their fans it's the only reason they watch the team. But there are many of the fans of the Old Firm who do not subscribe to the bigotry s****. They are actually more interested in the football. I just don't like the generalisation. That's the thing though. We keep hearing about this silent majority but i've honestly never met one of them. If they do exist then they should be trying do do something about it. If you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem and all that. its the add ons of FTP etc that are bigoted! the sash and loyalist songs are not! But that's what happens though. From a scottish point of view I just think it's embarassing that it's left to Uefa to take action because the SFA/SPL don't have the balls. It makes us look like we're not capable of getting our own house in order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
div-s- Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 i agree mate! am not saying everyone does it but in my experience its drunken neds that usually sing stuff like that at games and most people dont want to say anything incase theres an incident which is understandable but the stewards and police do nothing to help either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 I was at the game at Ibrox against Aberdeen with my brother. The Aberdeen fans were singing sick chants, throwing lighters and coins and basically acting like idiots and nothing was done, nothing was said and as just football fans there was nothing we could do when the Rangers fans reacted. We had to stand and watch the mayhem around us while the stewards stood and watched on too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross magoo Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 i agree mate! am not saying everyone does it but in my experience its drunken neds that usually sing stuff like that at games and most people dont want to say anything incase theres an incident which is understandable but the stewards and police do nothing to help either There was an incedent in the main stand at Tannadice last season when we played Celtic. I wasn't involved because I work in the executive boxes but I heard about it from one of the stewards. The police confronted a group of louts about "inappropriate" singing and the next thing the whole stand were screaming abuse at the police. So much for the silent majority. There's only so much the police can do without causing a riot. It's one of these things that has to be self-policed imo. If people behaved then there wouldn't be a problem. But they invariably don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross magoo Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 I was at the game at Ibrox against Aberdeen with my brother. The Aberdeen fans were singing sick chants, throwing lighters and coins and basically acting like idiots and nothing was done, nothing was said and as just football fans there was nothing we could do when the Rangers fans reacted. We had to stand and watch the mayhem around us while the stewards stood and watched on too. Aberdeen fans are a disgrace aswell btw. They've got a chip on their shoulder about everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
div-s- Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 I was at the game at Ibrox against Aberdeen with my brother. The Aberdeen fans were singing sick chants, throwing lighters and coins and basically acting like idiots and nothing was done, nothing was said and as just football fans there was nothing we could do when the Rangers fans reacted. We had to stand and watch the mayhem around us while the stewards stood and watched on too. Aberdeen fans are a disgrace aswell btw. They've got a chip on their shoulder about everything. spot on a agree there is no place for bigoted chants in football but singing songs about the ibrox disaster is right bang out of order but nothing every gets said about that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sam Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Manchester - FC United, really respect what they've been doing, turning their back on trophies and brilliant football to stay loyal to the game Good call that, forgot about them. What does "staying loyal to the game" actually mean though? I don't remember them complaining during the nineties when they were outspending everybody and winning everything. They did. The idea for FC United first came about when Rupert Merdoch was thinking of buying them in the late 90s. I didn't realise that. What took them so long? Well Murdoch's takeover fell through so they didnt bother, but kept all the plans in case it happened again, which it did when the Glazers took mover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewellander Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 London - West Ham (all those ex-Magpies) Birmingham - Villa Liverpool - Liverpool Manchester - City (that's who Oasis cheer for and they're my favorite band, which is a horrible reason, I know) Sheffield - United Glasgow - Inverness CT (because I wouldn't live in Glasgow. If I lived in Scotland, I would live in Inverness) Wild card - Norwich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross magoo Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Manchester - FC United, really respect what they've been doing, turning their back on trophies and brilliant football to stay loyal to the game Good call that, forgot about them. What does "staying loyal to the game" actually mean though? I don't remember them complaining during the nineties when they were outspending everybody and winning everything. They did. The idea for FC United first came about when Rupert Merdoch was thinking of buying them in the late 90s. I didn't realise that. What took them so long? Well Murdoch's takeover fell through so they didnt bother, but kept all the plans in case it happened again, which it did when the Glazers took mover. If those guys think that people like Murdoch and the Glazers are bad for the game then that's their view and they're entitled to it. I personally disagree. I was there in the 80s and yes it was cheap and affordable to go to the match but the conditions were appalling compared to what they are since money came into the game. No amount of romanticising about "the good old days" will change my mind about that. I luuuurve going off topic in threads - sorry folks :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Immsy7 Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 London - West Ham (Solano, hope to see Dyer get injured) Birmingham - Villa (live in the midlands, two of my best mates support Villa, have had some good days out with them) Liverpool - Everton (I fucking HATE Liverpool) Manchester - Man U (Best Manager Ever) Sheffield - Sheff Utd (Keith Gillespie, plus everyone else said Wednesday n i like to be different:D) Glasgow - Kilmarnock (Bet my mate they would get third) Wild card - Away team at Stadium Of shite/Home teams when Sunderland play away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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