Guest assyriantoon Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 If we had the best manager in the world we could realistically expect the current squad to be in the uefa cup race. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest YANKEEBLEEDSMAGPIE Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Allow me to summarize: Strikers who can't finish or make dangerous runs into space; Central Midfielders who cannot hold with any consistency or create whatsoever Wing players who can't properly work the wings with overlaps and such Central Defenders who lose their poise regularly A goalkeeper who cannot relieve the pressure on the defenders with his distribution Flaccid set piece play Any additions to list are welcome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Tbh, if we improved the central midfield, the knock-on effect it might have elsewhere could propel us into the top 7 or so, I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 NE5, i know you're trying to illustrate the new boards deficincies, but shoudln't you wait til they've had a window with their own man in place to really pass judgement? I don't know yet if they have "deficiencies", nobody does. I'm just not very happy with how the money was spent in the summer. And I have always wondered what Allardyce was referring to when he complained about lack of support, and I wonder why the club didn't replace Dire or Solano. I have in fact made posts saying that their time truly starts when they get their man. I don't do knee jerk reactions. I will believe they have ambition when I see the proof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Loading Sam up with cash would of been Souey all over again man. I wouldn't be so certain myself. Enrique at least looks a player. Cacapa - what do people expect for peanuts. Viduka, there is no denying his pedigree and again on a free transfer he's hardly a bad buy. Faye and Beye have been successful thus far while Rozzy is decent enough in terms of being a squad player. Barton is a good player, but a shithouse and Smith is well Smith. As buys go, most managers would be lucky if 2 of every 4 players they bought worked. Big Sam proved himself in the transfer market with Bolton to at least be giving a chance to show whether he could replicate that at Newcastle. Typically though, not only do managers get judged in a few months here, so do players too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 I wouldn't be so certain myself. Enrique at least looks a player. Cacapa - what do people expect for peanuts. Viduka, there is no denying his pedigree and again on a free transfer he's hardly a bad buy. Faye and Beye have been successful thus far while Rozzy is decent enough in terms of being a squad player. Barton is a good player, but a shithouse and Smith is well Smith. As buys go, most managers would be lucky if 2 of every 4 players they bought worked. Big Sam proved himself in the transfer market with Bolton to at least be giving a chance to show whether he could replicate that at Newcastle. Typically though, not only do managers get judged in a few months here, so do players too. Enrique-Jury still out but he is looking stronger with every game he is playing. Cacapa - I dont think sigining players who have played about 5 games last season & have no pace & are weak should be signed. Viduka - He cant run, jump or look interested. Nice touches though. Rozzy - He is crap, you can dress him up as squad player but he is not very good at all. Barton - Looked a good player at Man City, has failed to live up to the billing. Smith - Is Smith as you say, which I think equals poor. Good at clapping the fans though. Tozer - Jury still out Ngo - Just still out Kadar - Did he sign? Beye - Missing him Faye - Missing him His best two signings will not be playing for us for most of Jan & some of Feb, this fella new how to plan ahead. Not sure if that = 2 out of every 4 transfers though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Plenty of the players are good enough. Cohesion + confidence + a manager + one or two key signings will see us right. Nothing's changed since 5:15pm. Today was a shambles where every single thing went wrong, as i (and Melanchronic) have said, it's all about the current situation. If that poll about which players are good enough for the top 6 were to come around again, i'd vote the same again. Tthere's 8 or 9 top 6 players but too many squad-fillers. How many of those played today, YG? That are capable of top 6? Given, Duff, N'Zogbia, Owen. Special mentions to Taylor and Enrique. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Tbh, if we improved the central midfield, the knock-on effect it might have elsewhere could propel us into the top 7 or so, I think. Yep. We need to quality centre-mids. That's where we fall down. The personnel everywhere else is good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Allow me to summarize: Strikers who can't finish or make dangerous runs into space; Central Midfielders who cannot hold with any consistency or create whatsoever Wing players who can't properly work the wings with overlaps and such Central Defenders who lose their poise regularly A goalkeeper who cannot relieve the pressure on the defenders with his distribution Flaccid set piece play This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 a playmaker could make things tick in our squad the midfield is where we are losing every game, butt and smith are league 2 standard a good playmaker with some1 like geremi could make things tick we have 1 excellent winger and 1 good winger defence of enrique, taylor, faye, beye given time and a good coach would be a good defence we need a striking coach upfront for our strikers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty_Lash Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Tbh, if we improved the central midfield, the knock-on effect it might have elsewhere could propel us into the top 7 or so, I think. agreed. a good centre mid and suddenly the defenders have a bit of help, the wingers get the ball, and the strikers get some chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Top 10 squad at best. Be realistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Top 10 squad at best. Be realistic. i wish we could get there tbh i would get rid of everyone apart from given, beye, faye, taylor, enrique, charlie, milner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Bit harsh on Duff isn't it. He's undoubtedly one of our best players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Our players are mostly OK, but we lack a couple of things: someone to direct the midfield and movement up front. I saw someone mentioning that one of the plus points to Big Sam's time here was that he got rid of Sibierski. Well, today Sibierski scored Wigan's winning goal. He may be shite, but at least he was willing to run around a bit. A skint man of poor judgement's Bellamy, if you will. Allardyce was right to get rid, but not without getting a much better replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Clearly, they aren't. Good players perform. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Yes, they are all fucking world beaters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kesse Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 SACK EM ALL!! Except Zoggy, Martins, Milner, Enrique, Taylor, Faye, Beye, Given Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 SACK EM ALL!! Except Zoggy, Martins, Milner, Enrique, Taylor, Faye, Beye, Given No, I'd be rid of him too. Young doesn't always equal promising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Martins is the footballing equivalent of the Emperor's New Clothes imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Martins is the footballing equivalent of the Emperor's New Clothes imo. And fucking lightyears ahead of all our other strikers in terms of the team sheet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Seriously , what does he offer. Not looking for an arguement but what does Oba consistently add to our starting XI? Goals- at best a one in five striker Assists- Rarely Creativity- Urm.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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