Tooj Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I've always had Mick down as a taker. Just the impression he's given me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I've always had Mick down as a taker. Just the impression he's given me. He demonstrated it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I've always had Mick down as a taker. Just the impression he's given me. He demonstrated it? I just went for a piss man then all of a sudden I thought George Michael was following me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 The reality is that Ashley wont sell unless someone is prepared to pay his asking price, and i can see no harm in 'Ashley Out' campaigning when its clear that there is someone on the horizon. If you say there will never be any forewarning or prior knowledge if a groupis interested in buying then that answers my question about the point of campaigning in the first place. Forget campaigning as a way of forcing Ashley out. I agree it's very unlikely to work to that end. The situation is though that the club has seriously pissed off most supporters by its actions in the last week, and whether that be by negligence, by design or through no fault of his own, does not change that fact. I'm sure at this moment Ashley is regretting what has happened and if he could go back in time he'd do something to at least put off Keegan resigning (until he could undermine him a bit more ho ho). However, if after such a sacred cow has been used and cast adrift, if after such an initial public outcry, there were now to be no protests, no boycoutts, no repercussions whatsoever, what message does that send to Ashley? If he can carry on through this as if nothing has happened, it tells him he can do whatever the f*** he likes with the club from now to the end of time and noone will bat an eyelid. Is that the "relationship" we want with the owner of the club? Protest and affect the revenue of his other businesses now and it sends him a message so perhaps he'll at least think twice about crossing the supporters again. Do nothing, and expect an equal measure of respect to be given to our opinion in the future. Aye, good post UV and I'm not against any protests at the moment if i'm honest, i'm just not wildly excited about them ending up positive. However, i take your point about letting him know not to fuck about in the future, it even means if the magic billionaire does materialise he is more likely to sell on the back of protests. I'm just not convinced one exists. According to the same papers who were right about the behind the scenes problems this summer, Ashley has been trying to flog the club to anyone and everyone. No takers so far at the price he's been asking apparently. As pete said before, you never know if a new owner is around the corner with a bid but if this Indian lot are interested in buying the club, i'd have thought they'd be hoping to pick a club up for the price of city, not 300m or whatever it is Ashley wants. For a club in this current state Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Loads of people noticed these "so- called embarrassing things". The dogs/Mary Poppins comment was front page news if I recall correctly. Pretending for a moment that it matters, do you imagine for one second that Ashley could not very easily be caught in such a sting operation saying far, far worse things about the club, it's staff, and the supporters. There's no doubt in my mind that the tabloids will be hatching their schemes to catch him out as we type, and with the lack of tact he has shown in his few public interviews (I hate Spurs me, cave in Afghanistan) I can only imagine what he'll come out with when pissed in private. I'm expecting to see something within the year. What in a brothel with possies? I'd be surprised if he was stupid enough to fall for that. Strange that there seems to be the same 2/3 posters all over these threads that don't agree with the popularist view on the club. That's fair enough, but I would have to question their motives for it, when they feel the need to do it on EVERY thread about this. Maybe pushing a bit too hard shows up the fact that they are doing it mainly to go against the grain instead of actually truly believe what they are saying. If the popularist view is to place more importance to the kind of mild insults any of us might come out with in private than to finishing third and playing in the Champions League (you know, in the middle of the period where we "bent over and took it up the arse from the club"), then I'm happy to be labelled contrary. that would appear to be the case Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I've often wondered that, their relationship does seem eerily familiar. One says black the other says white. I don't want to speculate who's pitching and who's catching though Keep out of it, I've got enough on my plate with those other bastards without you joining in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I've always had Mick down as a taker. Just the impression he's given me. And I thought we were mates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I've always had Mick down as a taker. Just the impression he's given me. And I thought we were mates. I've just said you're a team player man. What more could you ask for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 He demonstrated it? 2J's got me worried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 The reality is that Ashley wont sell unless someone is prepared to pay his asking price, and i can see no harm in 'Ashley Out' campaigning when its clear that there is someone on the horizon. If you say there will never be any forewarning or prior knowledge if a groupis interested in buying then that answers my question about the point of campaigning in the first place. Forget campaigning as a way of forcing Ashley out. I agree it's very unlikely to work to that end. The situation is though that the club has seriously pissed off most supporters by its actions in the last week, and whether that be by negligence, by design or through no fault of his own, does not change that fact. I'm sure at this moment Ashley is regretting what has happened and if he could go back in time he'd do something to at least put off Keegan resigning (until he could undermine him a bit more ho ho). However, if after such a sacred cow has been used and cast adrift, if after such an initial public outcry, there were now to be no protests, no boycoutts, no repercussions whatsoever, what message does that send to Ashley? If he can carry on through this as if nothing has happened, it tells him he can do whatever the f*** he likes with the club from now to the end of time and noone will bat an eyelid. Is that the "relationship" we want with the owner of the club? Protest and affect the revenue of his other businesses now and it sends him a message so perhaps he'll at least think twice about crossing the supporters again. Do nothing, and expect an equal measure of respect to be given to our opinion in the future. Aye, good post UV and I'm not against any protests at the moment if i'm honest, i'm just not wildly excited about them ending up positive. However, i take your point about letting him know not to fuck about in the future, it even means if the magic billionaire does materialise he is more likely to sell on the back of protests. I'm just not convinced one exists. According to the same papers who were right about the behind the scenes problems this summer, Ashley has been trying to flog the club to anyone and everyone. No takers so far at the price he's been asking apparently. As pete said before, you never know if a new owner is around the corner with a bid but if this Indian lot are interested in buying the club, i'd have thought they'd be hoping to pick a club up for the price of city, not 300m or whatever it is Ashley wants. For a club in this current state I agree with you. Having seen protests before, I'm not optimistic they succeed, but they can make you feel better for a while The real crust now, is Ashley [and his band of merry men] has been found to be an arsehole of the highest order, and so we are back to where we were a while ago, we know the club is for sale, and we have to hope the new owners will be good owners, and try to be successful. [like the Halls and Shepherd ........] In the meantime, lets just hope that Ashley doesn't preside over the shambles that followed Gordon Lee's walkout in 1976 and asset strip in the meantime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I just went for a piss man then all of a sudden I hoped George Michael was following me. Keep it to yourself, we're not interested in your fantasies. Anyway, should that not be in Chat? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 haha, its your own phrase. Are you happy at getting your wish too I know most of it was my phrase, unlike you I know when I'm backing a loser. I don't think you know anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I've just said you're a team player man. What more could you ask for? Excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I've often wondered that, their relationship does seem eerily familiar. One says black the other says white. I don't want to speculate who's pitching and who's catching though Keep out of it, I've got enough on my plate with those other bastards without you joining in. Sorry Mick I'll leave you be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thenorthumbrian Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 They don't speak for supporters and much of what they have assumed is based on taking Keegan's side because of our emotional attachment to him... in the way a lot of us have done. That and the lies they've told to con thousands of people out of thousands of pounds. If you're talking about season tickets, then I thought they were for supporting Newcastle Utd, not Kevin Keegan. I don't remember seeing any promises about the manager in the adverts or letters. If anyone signed up for three years thinking Keegan would definitely be manager throughout that time, they obviously haven't been watching football for very long. I don't think Ashley is blameless at all, but he's not the devil either. No thats Denis Wise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I don't think you know anything. So I'm on a par with you, shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Sorry Mick I'll leave you be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 I don't think you know anything. So I'm on a par with you, shit. so are you happy you got what you wished for and we are back to being a selling club, just like your good old days Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 The reality is that Ashley wont sell unless someone is prepared to pay his asking price, and i can see no harm in 'Ashley Out' campaigning when its clear that there is someone on the horizon. If you say there will never be any forewarning or prior knowledge if a groupis interested in buying then that answers my question about the point of campaigning in the first place. Forget campaigning as a way of forcing Ashley out. I agree it's very unlikely to work to that end. The situation is though that the club has seriously pissed off most supporters by its actions in the last week, and whether that be by negligence, by design or through no fault of his own, does not change that fact. I'm sure at this moment Ashley is regretting what has happened and if he could go back in time he'd do something to at least put off Keegan resigning (until he could undermine him a bit more ho ho). However, if after such a sacred cow has been used and cast adrift, if after such an initial public outcry, there were now to be no protests, no boycoutts, no repercussions whatsoever, what message does that send to Ashley? If he can carry on through this as if nothing has happened, it tells him he can do whatever the f*** he likes with the club from now to the end of time and noone will bat an eyelid. Is that the "relationship" we want with the owner of the club? Protest and affect the revenue of his other businesses now and it sends him a message so perhaps he'll at least think twice about crossing the supporters again. Do nothing, and expect an equal measure of respect to be given to our opinion in the future. Aye, good post UV and I'm not against any protests at the moment if i'm honest, i'm just not wildly excited about them ending up positive. However, i take your point about letting him know not to fuck about in the future, it even means if the magic billionaire does materialise he is more likely to sell on the back of protests. I'm just not convinced one exists. According to the same papers who were right about the behind the scenes problems this summer, Ashley has been trying to flog the club to anyone and everyone. No takers so far at the price he's been asking apparently. As pete said before, you never know if a new owner is around the corner with a bid but if this Indian lot are interested in buying the club, i'd have thought they'd be hoping to pick a club up for the price of city, not 300m or whatever it is Ashley wants. For a club in this current state I agree with you. Having seen protests before, I'm not optimistic they succeed, but they can make you feel better for a while The real crust now, is Ashley [and his band of merry men] has been found to be an arsehole of the highest order, and so we are back to where we were a while ago, we know the club is for sale, and we have to hope the new owners will be good owners, and try to be successful. [like the Halls and Shepherd ........] In the meantime, lets just hope that Ashley doesn't preside over the shambles that followed Gordon Lee's walkout in 1976 and asset strip in the meantime. I think that moment has passed this time thankfully but the current players have already been badly affected by this whole episode. As for the debate of 18 months ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 This "action" is a bit wishy-washy anyway tbh. The need is to make ourselves heard and say categorically to Ashley and his lackies: you are not wanted here. Not buying a pie in the ground? It's hardly Tiananmen Square. I could've murdered a Chinese last night... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 This "action" is a bit wishy-washy anyway tbh. The need is to make ourselves heard and say categorically to Ashley and his lackies: you are not wanted here. Not buying a pie in the ground? It's hardly Tiananmen Square. I could've murdered a Chinese last night... Evening Dad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 so are you happy you got your wish Remind me what my wish was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Evening young Chez.....done your fucking homework yet???Fetch my pipe and slippers and make us a cup of tea and a dripping sandwich son... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Evening young Chez.....done your fucking homework yet???Fetch my pipe and slippers and make us a cup of tea and a dripping sandwich son... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 He must be old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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