Toonpack Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 We all know that the only reason we are keeping him is our inability to afford to buy a replacement. A sad state. Provide a link to that "fact" please ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Whinge about lack of depth and whinge about a perfectly serviceable depth player being retained, bizarre IMO Serviceable for what? League 1? Not the premiership. Clueless as ever. He has enough to make an impact at times, should never be a starter but games like the mackems, QPR at home where he turned 1 point into 3 when we didnt look like scoring etc shows he can do something as a player in the PL however limited he is. Plus he clearly has a good influence around the dressing room so why not keep him? Clueless, look who's talking. I'm happy to have him around if he's 4th or 5th choice as I've said earlier, the way ToonPack is talking he wants him as backup directly for Cisse. A 2nd choice striker for us should have a better record than 6 goals in last 2 seasons. It puts extra pressure on Cisse to score and scoring goals has been a problem for us last few seasons imo, not enough people contributing. Please quote where I said that, or is it a lie, or just your incomprehension of the written word ? You've said he's better than Graham. Graham would be 2nd choice striker immediately if he came here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 We all know that the only reason we are keeping him is our inability to afford to buy a replacement. A sad state. Aye Ashley is a secret St Ettiene fan, cant be any other reason for him watching a match involving a striker we were supposed to have bid for 2 months ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 The people who are pleased with this have such low expectations. If we got rid of Shola and bought a striker who can actually make an impact on games it'd be like night and day. Really can't believe there's still people in 2013 who gladly accept what he offers. If we kept Shola (as depth) and bought a striker who can actually make an impact on games it'd be even better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 We all know that the only reason we are keeping him is our inability to afford to buy a replacement. A sad state. Aye Ashley is a secret St Ettiene fan, cant be any other reason for him watching a match involving a striker we were supposed to have bid for 2 months ago And that possible future leaves us with 2 strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 The people who are pleased with this have such low expectations. If we got rid of Shola and bought a striker who can actually make an impact on games it'd be like night and day. Really can't believe there's still people in 2013 who gladly accept what he offers. I will shock you here but i do believe its entirely possible to do both. Incredible i know but theres no rule that states we can only have one back up to Cisse. Buy 2 young strikers then, which is what we should be doing anyway if Campbell isn't near enough to being ready. We really need Shola to have an extended run in the first team this season just to remind everybody. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 The people who are pleased with this have such low expectations. If we got rid of Shola and bought a striker who can actually make an impact on games it'd be like night and day. Really can't believe there's still people in 2013 who gladly accept what he offers. If we kept Shola (as depth) and bought a striker who can actually make an impact on games it'd be even better. Then we are in one of our least favourite situations, the good old "one injury away from having to field garbage"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 His career minutes per goal is 274. That's 1 in 3 1 in 3 strikers not to be sniffed at boys. 5 year deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 2 strikers are needed in the summer imo. Then send Campbell off on loan for a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 We all know that the only reason we are keeping him is our inability to afford to buy a replacement. A sad state. Aye Ashley is a secret St Ettiene fan, cant be any other reason for him watching a match involving a striker we were supposed to have bid for 2 months ago And that possible future leaves us with 2 strikers. I can count Cisse, New Guy, Shola, Campbell with Goufrann also a striker. And that is assuming we know how the summer will go which we dont. But yeah only two aye? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/shola-ameobi-offered-new-contract-1943164 By Lee Ryder New contract deal for striker Shola Ameobi 23 Mar 2013 08:35 Newcastle United stalwart Shola Ameobi is set to be rewarded for his services with a new contract offer – that’s if he wants to extend his stay at St James’ Park Shola Ameobi is set to be offered a new contract by Alan Pardew. The 31-year-old will go into the last year of his current contract at the end of the season and Pardew is keen to extend his stay on Tyneside. However, Pardew has suggested that Ameobi may consider a change of scenery after spending his entire career at St James’ Park. Ameobi may well split the opinion of United fans, but he is deemed an influential figure for the Magpies behind the scenes and younger professionals regard him as a role model at the club. And Pardew is hoping to keep him with Newcastle into his peak years. This has been the case at Manchester United with established stars like Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes with Sir Alex Ferguson tending to top up contracts on a yearly basis. Pardew told the Chronicle: “He’s still got another year here with us. “And I don’t see a problem extending that. We’ll see.” Regardless of Ameobi’s popularity at the club with the backroom staff though, the Academy product has not been a first choice for Pardew. Ameobi – who is officially the Premier League’s most used substitute in history with 122 appearances from the bench – may consider a stint elsewhere in order to gain regular first- team football. Of course, given Ameobi’s love for United it would be a major decision. Having played under Sir Bobby Robson, Graeme Souness, Glenn Roeder, Sam Allardyce, Kevin Keegan, Joe Kinnear, Chris Hughton and Alan Pardew, only Keegan attempted to offload him. That was in 2008 when he was loaned out to Stoke City under Tony Pulis during the Potters’ rise from the Championship. And Pardew indicated that Ameobi has a decision to make in the coming months. United – like any club – don’t like players’ contracts to run down to beyond the final year with a Bosman transfer reducing their chance of recouping a fee. Pardew said: “I think the bottom line with Shola will be how long he wants to stay at one club, because he’s been here all his career. “I hope he wants to stay, but that’ll be his decision.” Ameobi could move beyond Alan Shearer to 50 European appearances in the upcoming two-legged clash with Benfica. He has 76 goals for the Magpies with 15 of his goals coming during his 49 games in European competition. Ameobi has made 288 Premier League appearances, 18 appearances in the FA Cup and 13 in the League Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 His career minutes per goal is 274. That's 1 in 3 1 in 3 strikers not to be sniffed at boys. 5 year deal. He can only play 20 minutes at a time. So it's actually closer to 1 in 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Whinge about lack of depth and whinge about a perfectly serviceable depth player being retained, bizarre IMO Serviceable for what? League 1? Not the premiership. Clueless as ever. He has enough to make an impact at times, should never be a starter but games like the mackems, QPR at home where he turned 1 point into 3 when we didnt look like scoring etc shows he can do something as a player in the PL however limited he is. Plus he clearly has a good influence around the dressing room so why not keep him? Clueless, look who's talking. I'm happy to have him around if he's 4th or 5th choice as I've said earlier, the way ToonPack is talking he wants him as backup directly for Cisse. A 2nd choice striker for us should have a better record than 6 goals in last 2 seasons. It puts extra pressure on Cisse to score and scoring goals has been a problem for us last few seasons imo, not enough people contributing. Please quote where I said that, or is it a lie, or just your incomprehension of the written word ? You've said he's better than Graham. Graham would be 2nd choice striker immediately if he came here. Please quote where I said Shola should be our ongoing and primary back up to Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 The people who are pleased with this have such low expectations. If we got rid of Shola and bought a striker who can actually make an impact on games it'd be like night and day. Really can't believe there's still people in 2013 who gladly accept what he offers. I will shock you here but i do believe its entirely possible to do both. Incredible i know but theres no rule that states we can only have one back up to Cisse. Buy 2 young strikers then, which is what we should be doing anyway if Campbell isn't near enough to being ready. We really need Shola to have an extended run in the first team this season just to remind everybody. We can still buy two and have Shola as 4th choice or whatever without worrying. Still makes your complaining seen daft tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 His career minutes per goal is 274. That's 1 in 3 1 in 3 strikers not to be sniffed at boys. 5 year deal. He can only play 20 minutes at a time. So it's actually closer to 1 in 10 You can't argue with stats. 1 in 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Whinge about lack of depth and whinge about a perfectly serviceable depth player being retained, bizarre IMO Serviceable for what? League 1? Not the premiership. Clueless as ever. He has enough to make an impact at times, should never be a starter but games like the mackems, QPR at home where he turned 1 point into 3 when we didnt look like scoring etc shows he can do something as a player in the PL however limited he is. Plus he clearly has a good influence around the dressing room so why not keep him? Clueless, look who's talking. I'm happy to have him around if he's 4th or 5th choice as I've said earlier, the way ToonPack is talking he wants him as backup directly for Cisse. A 2nd choice striker for us should have a better record than 6 goals in last 2 seasons. It puts extra pressure on Cisse to score and scoring goals has been a problem for us last few seasons imo, not enough people contributing. Please quote where I said that, or is it a lie, or just your incomprehension of the written word ? You've said he's better than Graham. Graham would be 2nd choice striker immediately if he came here. Please quote where I said Shola should be our ongoing and primary back up to Cisse. I said the way you were talking you wanted him backup for Cisse. I didn't put words in your mouth as you said we should keep him and also you've said he's better than Graham which absolutely laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 We all know that the only reason we are keeping him is our inability to afford to buy a replacement. A sad state. Aye Ashley is a secret St Ettiene fan, cant be any other reason for him watching a match involving a striker we were supposed to have bid for 2 months ago And that possible future leaves us with 2 strikers. I can count Cisse, New Guy, Shola, Campbell with Goufrann also a striker. And that is assuming we know how the summer will go which we dont. But yeah only two aye? Campbell is unproven. Gouffran is being deployed wide at present, so we'd have to fill that hole if we started using him as a striker more often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 We all know that the only reason we are keeping him is our inability to afford to buy a replacement. A sad state. Aye Ashley is a secret St Ettiene fan, cant be any other reason for him watching a match involving a striker we were supposed to have bid for 2 months ago And that possible future leaves us with 2 strikers. I can count Cisse, New Guy, Shola, Campbell with Goufrann also a striker. And that is assuming we know how the summer will go which we dont. But yeah only two aye? Campbell is unproven. Gouffran is being deployed wide at present, so we'd have to fill that hole if we started using him as a striker more often. Its as if we arent allowed to sign more than one player now, i give up clearly you know already who we will(or wont) bring in over the summer to be so confident Oh and one more thing. Shola would be here next season regardless of what happens, his current contract isnt up yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 I imagine we'll sign Shola up and try for another striker in the summer. Try being the key word, because with Cisse, Gouffran, Ameobi and Campbell on the books unless we get a really good deal I can't see us splashing out for another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 His career minutes per goal is 274. That's 1 in 3 1 in 3 strikers not to be sniffed at boys. 5 year deal. He can only play 20 minutes at a time. So it's actually closer to 1 in 10 You can't argue with stats. 1 in 3. Has never managed more than 30 league appearances in a season. Has never scored more than 9 goals in a Premier league season. Has never scored more than a total of 11 goals in all competitions in a season. Has managed 9 goals in the last 3 seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 The people who are pleased with this have such low expectations. If we got rid of Shola and bought a striker who can actually make an impact on games it'd be like night and day. Really can't believe there's still people in 2013 who gladly accept what he offers. I will shock you here but i do believe its entirely possible to do both. Incredible i know but theres no rule that states we can only have one back up to Cisse. Buy 2 young strikers then, which is what we should be doing anyway if Campbell isn't near enough to being ready. We really need Shola to have an extended run in the first team this season just to remind everybody. We can still buy two and have Shola as 4th choice or whatever without worrying. Still makes your complaining seen daft tbh He'd be on far too big a wage for 4th choice but whatever. Absolute shambles that this is being both discussed and defended yet again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 I imagine we'll sign Shola up and try for another striker in the summer. Try being the key word, because with Cisse, Gouffran, Ameobi and Campbell on the books unless we get a really good deal I can't see us splashing out for another. The problem with that list is I don't see enough goals apart from Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 I imagine we'll sign Shola up and try for another striker in the summer. Try being the key word, because with Cisse, Gouffran, Ameobi and Campbell on the books unless we get a really good deal I can't see us splashing out for another. Shola has 15 months left on his current deal so no need to tie him up really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 His career minutes per goal is 274. That's 1 in 3 1 in 3 strikers not to be sniffed at boys. 5 year deal. He can only play 20 minutes at a time. So it's actually closer to 1 in 10 You can't argue with stats. 1 in 3. Has never managed more than 30 league appearances in a season. Has never scored more than 9 goals in a Premier league season. Has never scored more than a total of 11 goals in all competitions in a season. Has managed 9 goals in the last 3 seasons. Stats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 The people who are pleased with this have such low expectations. If we got rid of Shola and bought a striker who can actually make an impact on games it'd be like night and day. Really can't believe there's still people in 2013 who gladly accept what he offers. I will shock you here but i do believe its entirely possible to do both. Incredible i know but theres no rule that states we can only have one back up to Cisse. Buy 2 young strikers then, which is what we should be doing anyway if Campbell isn't near enough to being ready. We really need Shola to have an extended run in the first team this season just to remind everybody. We can still buy two and have Shola as 4th choice or whatever without worrying. Still makes your complaining seen daft tbh He'd be on far too big a wage for 4th choice but whatever. Absolute shambles that this is being both discussed and defended yet again. Even if he didnt sign he would be here next season regardless though ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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