Stuy_O Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 City's support is f***ing awful, as is Chelsea's. Our support is pretty much all we have going for us. That's about the only thing I wouldn't swap with them. The titles and class players... yeh I'd love that. Credit where credit us due even in the third tier they were pulling in 30 odd thousand . They may be arseholes but they are loyal arseholes. True their past attendances were decent (although i'm sure i'v read some shocking stats regarding there past crowds somewhere, when someone was having a pop at ours) but how often do they fill Eastlands? Sure it's not as much as they should. I'd like to think if we were in their position we'd still retain the best aspect of the club. The chelsea fans are far worse imo though and they optimise the modern corporate sell out of clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 City's support is f***ing awful, as is Chelsea's. Our support is pretty much all we have going for us. That's about the only thing I wouldn't swap with them. The titles and class players... yeh I'd love that. Credit where credit us due even in the third tier they were pulling in 30 odd thousand . They may be arseholes but they are loyal arseholes. True their past attendances were decent (although i'm sure i'v read some shocking stats regarding there past crowds somewhere, when someone was having a pop at ours) but how often do they fill Eastlands? Sure it's not as much as they should. I'd like to think if we were in their position we'd still retain the best aspect of the club. Our best aspect is our fans. I wouldn't want the glory seekers rocking up when we do well. I also think you lose a bit of your soul if your always winning, there has to be a balance. yes I want trophies but winning them all every season would get a bit boring, where is the competition. I would love the premier league to be about more than 2-3 clubs winning the league but that's where the money is (Chelsea/Man City) or a club being built up in Man U (Also spent a bit though). Arsenal was a class model but have fallen behind because of unwillingness to just buy experienced top players. Spurs may progress further on with their latest purchases, but there is something to like about the way Spurs do things as well. They are spending now because they have the money, although i suspect Bale will go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 City's support is f***ing awful, as is Chelsea's. Our support is pretty much all we have going for us. That's about the only thing I wouldn't swap with them. The titles and class players... yeh I'd love that. Credit where credit us due even in the third tier they were pulling in 30 odd thousand . They may be arseholes but they are loyal arseholes. True their past attendances were decent (although i'm sure i'v read some shocking stats regarding there past crowds somewhere, when someone was having a pop at ours) but how often do they fill Eastlands? Sure it's not as much as they should. I'd like to think if we were in their position we'd still retain the best aspect of the club. The chelsea fans are far worse imo though and they optimise the modern corporate sell out of clubs. Agree about Chelsea, they struggled to get 20 thousand even in the early days of the Premier League. Horrid club and its fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 You used to get Chelsea fans who wouldn't count the goals scored by black players.... Nice bunch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 You used to get Chelsea fans who wouldn't count the goals scored by black players.... Nice bunch. I never knew that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Chelsea fans are unbelievably arrogant about their stature when it wasn't long ago they were just a scruffy club from London who always flattered to deceive. ffs we almost got John Terry to come here, thats how crap they were. They genuinely do have really short memories. The abuse they gave Rafa last season was just stupid, they will not criticise the owner for fear he decides to fuck off somewhere else, thus reverting to what they were before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 You used to get Chelsea fans who wouldn't count the goals scored by black players.... Nice bunch. I never knew that Oh aye. This was still premier league era too. Horrible gets man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 You used to get Chelsea fans who wouldn't count the goals scored by black players.... Nice bunch. I never knew that Oh aye. This was still premier league era too. Horrible gets man. Did they relegate themselves as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 The did what, not counting goals by black players. FFS is that actually true ?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 City's support is f***ing awful, as is Chelsea's. Our support is pretty much all we have going for us. That's about the only thing I wouldn't swap with them. The titles and class players... yeh I'd love that. Credit where credit us due even in the third tier they were pulling in 30 odd thousand . They may be arseholes but they are loyal arseholes. True their past attendances were decent (although i'm sure i'v read some shocking stats regarding there past crowds somewhere, when someone was having a pop at ours) but how often do they fill Eastlands? Sure it's not as much as they should. I'd like to think if we were in their position we'd still retain the best aspect of the club. The chelsea fans are far worse imo though and they optimise the modern corporate sell out of clubs. Given that they want to increase it's capacity I reckon it must be quite often. Of all the nouveau riche clubs City are the ones I feel least bad-will towards. They've been through some shitty times and have maintained decent support throughout. Most of their support are decent, genuine football fans and are simply enjoying the good times whilst they can, fully aware that they don't last forever. This kind of conversation really is the realm of the loser and you can tell just how deflated we are as a club right now that were having to resort to slagging off other clubs' support to make ourselves feel better. It's really quite sad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 It's not about fans for me. All successful clubs will attract glory hunters. More than that, the support any club has is a complete accident of geography in the most part. I never understood how/why clubs are criticised or praised for their levels of support. The buying success thing is more about the principle. We pretend that Man City or Chelsea have done amazingly well in winning the league, when in reality their Sheik/Oligarch went out and bought a dream team to do it. This is why I'm more happy to accept seasons where we have good moments and likeable players, and not so bothered about the long-term. The overall sporting competition has now been made obsolete by money, so fans need to learn to enjoy every 90 minutes for its own sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I'd love us to have a bunch of glory hunting fans. What drives Man Utd and Liverpools huge revenues isn't mancs or scousers, it's those glory fans that everyone is so happy to denigrate. Chelsea and Man City are growing in global stature with their success and people all over the world are starting to support them. Hell, some of the parents here are even Arsenal fans. That's the kind of profile we need if we want to play with the big boys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I'd love us to have a bunch of glory hunting fans. What drives Man Utd and Liverpools huge revenues isn't mancs or scousers, it's those glory fans that everyone is so happy to denigrate. Chelsea and Man City are growing in global stature with their success and people all over the world are starting to support them. Hell, some of the parents here are even Arsenal fans. That's the kind of profile we need if we want to play with the big boys. We have a relatively high amount compared to many, unfortunately from a revenue perspective it came 5-10 years too early. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Dude, we're nowhere close. There's a man Utd sponsored poster in the elevator in my building. I'll try and get a pic later. Loads of Chelsea and City popping up too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I know. I've been to Asia/wherever. I'm just saying compared to a lot of middling PL teams we have a reasonable amount. This place is testament amount to that. It's obviously dwarfed by CL teams + Liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I'd love us to have a bunch of glory hunting fans. What drives Man Utd and Liverpools huge revenues isn't mancs or scousers, it's those glory fans that everyone is so happy to denigrate. Chelsea and Man City are growing in global stature with their success and people all over the world are starting to support them. Hell, some of the parents here are even Arsenal fans. That's the kind of profile we need if we want to play with the big boys. We have a relatively high amount compared to many, unfortunately from a revenue perspective it came 5-10 years too early. I still believe if we had won the title in 95/96 and sustained our position at the top of the league, we'd be in the top 10-15 clubs in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 just seen the Sinclair link. how realistic does it seem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 About 6, I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 5.8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Something like that, yep. In theory it's a good signing that would work for everyone. Except if City need to keep English players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 If Scott Sinclair had any sense then I would suspect he's requested a transfer as he hasn't got a hope of being a regular at Man City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 If Scott Sinclair had any sense then I would suspect he's requested a transfer as he hasn't got a hope of being a regular at Man City. Same could be said about joining them in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I forgive him slightly for that in that he had a good season with Swansea and he might have been confident enough to believe he would get in the team. Plus they probably told him whatever he wanted to hear then gave him the £££££ Still your right it was a little naive to join them in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 If Scott Sinclair had any sense then I would suspect he's requested a transfer as he hasn't got a hope of being a regular at Man City. Same could be said about joining them in the first place. Maybe he thought he had a chance to start, seeing as Milner continues to get run-outs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 If Scott Sinclair had any sense then I would suspect he's requested a transfer as he hasn't got a hope of being a regular at Man City. Same could be said about joining them in the first place. Maybe he thought he had a chance to start, seeing as Milner continues to get run-outs. Possibly I guess, good thing to have confidence in your ability I suppose. Still, now he knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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