Optimistic Nut Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 My bank charges six quid a day if you are overdrawn regardless of the amount you are overdrawn, people who are overdrawn are normally in the soup financially. Im sure most banks do the same which makes them worse than the short term loan companies imo. Another irony of course being that some of the things that force people into these type of loans are alcohol & gambling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Big business stinks. We know. It's not a new phenomenon. What Barclays and co. do behind closed doors is unjustifiable but these services are not directly marketed to the public. We're not advertising reckless investment banking or cluster bombs. Wonga are a payday loan company. That's their service, that's what we advertise. By getting into bed with them we further legitimise loan sharking. If you can't understand why this may cause consternation for Cisse then you're beyond help I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Big business stinks. We know. It's not a new phenomenon. What Barclays and co. do behind closed doors is unjustifiable but these services are not directly marketed to the public. We're not advertising reckless investment banking or cluster bombs. Wonga are a payday loan company. That's their service, that's what we advertise. By getting into bed with them we further legitimise loan sharking. If you can't understand why this may cause consternation for Cisse then you're beyond help I'm afraid. How does that square with him gambling then ?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WashyGeordie Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 He was great when he first arrived and although not so good last season his goals kept us up. Seems he wants away and using Wonga as an excuse. I'm sick of reading this s***. it's exactly that... baseless bullshit Well it's not baseless (as such) 'cos nufc.com are using it... Must be the same baseless bullshit as the Ramadan excuse then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Big business stinks. We know. It's not a new phenomenon. What Barclays and co. do behind closed doors is unjustifiable but these services are not directly marketed to the public. We're not advertising reckless investment banking or cluster bombs. Wonga are a payday loan company. That's their service, that's what we advertise. By getting into bed with them we further legitimise loan sharking. If you can't understand why this may cause consternation for Cisse then you're beyond help I'm afraid. does it matter if the services are directly advertised to the public ? you'd be ok with union carbide being our sponsor then, vodafone, etc ? all morally objectionable. if you want to stertch it that way, pay day lending and loan sharking are different things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I think it's reasonable to think he has an alternative motive. I don't think the religious grounds stands up. Religion is rigid, surely god says no interest, not "thou shalt not demand interest above a specific critical interest threshold" - religion is about absolute morality. That's where moral grounds would be more reasonable. On religious grounds he should not have been wearing Virgin Money either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Big business stinks. We know. It's not a new phenomenon. What Barclays and co. do behind closed doors is unjustifiable but these services are not directly marketed to the public. We're not advertising reckless investment banking or cluster bombs. Wonga are a payday loan company. That's their service, that's what we advertise. By getting into bed with them we further legitimise loan sharking. If you can't understand why this may cause consternation for Cisse then you're beyond help I'm afraid. How does that square with him gambling then ?. Why can't he gamble with his own money? He's not set a roulette wheel up on Percy Street for fucks sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Big business stinks. We know. It's not a new phenomenon. What Barclays and co. do behind closed doors is unjustifiable but these services are not directly marketed to the public. We're not advertising reckless investment banking or cluster bombs. Wonga are a payday loan company. That's their service, that's what we advertise. By getting into bed with them we further legitimise loan sharking. If you can't understand why this may cause consternation for Cisse then you're beyond help I'm afraid. How does that square with him gambling then ?. Why can't he gamble with his own money? He's not set a roulette wheel up on Percy Street for f***s sake. does islam say gambling is ok with your own money ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 He's also not putting other people's money into taking out a loan so that's not a great comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 He's also not putting other people's money into taking out a loan so that's not a great comparison. He's advertising a service, encouraging people to use it. I wouldn't feel comfortable in his position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Big business stinks. We know. It's not a new phenomenon. What Barclays and co. do behind closed doors is unjustifiable but these services are not directly marketed to the public. We're not advertising reckless investment banking or cluster bombs. Wonga are a payday loan company. That's their service, that's what we advertise. By getting into bed with them we further legitimise loan sharking. If you can't understand why this may cause consternation for Cisse then you're beyond help I'm afraid. It's a bit of a jump to believe that Cisse gives a shit about Wonga's questionable morality like, I don't think that's what he's apparently making a stand against here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Big business stinks. We know. It's not a new phenomenon. What Barclays and co. do behind closed doors is unjustifiable but these services are not directly marketed to the public. We're not advertising reckless investment banking or cluster bombs. Wonga are a payday loan company. That's their service, that's what we advertise. By getting into bed with them we further legitimise loan sharking. If you can't understand why this may cause consternation for Cisse then you're beyond help I'm afraid. How does that square with him gambling then ?. Why can't he gamble with his own money? He's not set a roulette wheel up on Percy Street for fucks sake. Against his religion, so he can cherry pick then ?. So if we were sponsored by a betting company who prey on people with addiction, what would he do then ?. You can't have it both ways, you back him up yet overlook obvious contradictions. Fair enough for fucks sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 He's also not putting other people's money into taking out a loan so that's not a great comparison. He's advertising a service, encouraging people to use it. I wouldn't feel comfortable in his position. He's also not putting other people's money into taking out a loan so that's not a great comparison. He's advertising a service, encouraging people to use it. I wouldn't feel comfortable in his position. He's also not putting other people's money into taking out a loan so that's not a great comparison. He's advertising a service, encouraging people to use it. I wouldn't feel comfortable in his position. Again, would that not be the same with a gambling company? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 If you don't know gambling is against his religion, well then you're beyond help I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 If you don't know gambling is against his religion, well then you're beyond help I'm afraid. it was rhetorical if that was aimed at me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Big business stinks. We know. It's not a new phenomenon. What Barclays and co. do behind closed doors is unjustifiable but these services are not directly marketed to the public. We're not advertising reckless investment banking or cluster bombs. Wonga are a payday loan company. That's their service, that's what we advertise. By getting into bed with them we further legitimise loan sharking. If you can't understand why this may cause consternation for Cisse then you're beyond help I'm afraid. How does that square with him gambling then ?. Why can't he gamble with his own money? He's not set a roulette wheel up on Percy Street for fucks sake. Against his religion, so he can cherry pick then ?. So if we were sponsored by a betting company who prey on people with addiction, what would he do then ?. You can't have it both ways, you back him up yet overlook obvious contradictions. Fair enough for fucks sake. There is such a thing as a moderate Muslim, yer kna? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 If you don't know gambling is against his religion, well then you're beyond help I'm afraid. it was rhetorical if that was aimed at me. Nope. I aim my farts in your general direction, but nothing more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 If you don't know gambling is against his religion, well then you're beyond help I'm afraid. it was rhetorical if that was aimed at me. Nope. I aim my farts in your general direction, but nothing more. i'd been blaming the dog. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 He's also not putting other people's money into taking out a loan so that's not a great comparison. He's advertising a service, encouraging people to use it. I wouldn't feel comfortable in his position. He's also not putting other people's money into taking out a loan so that's not a great comparison. He's advertising a service, encouraging people to use it. I wouldn't feel comfortable in his position. He's also not putting other people's money into taking out a loan so that's not a great comparison. He's advertising a service, encouraging people to use it. I wouldn't feel comfortable in his position. Again, would that not be the same with a gambling company? We're not advertising a gambling company. We're advertising Wonga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Big business stinks. We know. It's not a new phenomenon. What Barclays and co. do behind closed doors is unjustifiable but these services are not directly marketed to the public. We're not advertising reckless investment banking or cluster bombs. Wonga are a payday loan company. That's their service, that's what we advertise. By getting into bed with them we further legitimise loan sharking. If you can't understand why this may cause consternation for Cisse then you're beyond help I'm afraid. How does that square with him gambling then ?. Why can't he gamble with his own money? He's not set a roulette wheel up on Percy Street for f***s sake. Against his religion, so he can cherry pick then ?. So if we were sponsored by a betting company who prey on people with addiction, what would he do then ?. You can't have it both ways, you back him up yet overlook obvious contradictions. Fair enough for f***s sake. There is such a thing as a moderate Muslim, yer kna? like ben arfa, tiote etc who will play in a wonga top ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Big business stinks. We know. It's not a new phenomenon. What Barclays and co. do behind closed doors is unjustifiable but these services are not directly marketed to the public. We're not advertising reckless investment banking or cluster bombs. Wonga are a payday loan company. That's their service, that's what we advertise. By getting into bed with them we further legitimise loan sharking. If you can't understand why this may cause consternation for Cisse then you're beyond help I'm afraid. How does that square with him gambling then ?. Why can't he gamble with his own money? He's not set a roulette wheel up on Percy Street for fucks sake. Against his religion, so he can cherry pick then ?. So if we were sponsored by a betting company who prey on people with addiction, what would he do then ?. You can't have it both ways, you back him up yet overlook obvious contradictions. Fair enough for fucks sake. There is such a thing as a moderate Muslim, yer kna? Indeed there are, that's the five or so who have no problem playing in the shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Big business stinks. We know. It's not a new phenomenon. What Barclays and co. do behind closed doors is unjustifiable but these services are not directly marketed to the public. We're not advertising reckless investment banking or cluster bombs. Wonga are a payday loan company. That's their service, that's what we advertise. By getting into bed with them we further legitimise loan sharking. If you can't understand why this may cause consternation for Cisse then you're beyond help I'm afraid. How does that square with him gambling then ?. Why can't he gamble with his own money? He's not set a roulette wheel up on Percy Street for f***s sake. Against his religion, so he can cherry pick then ?. So if we were sponsored by a betting company who prey on people with addiction, what would he do then ?. You can't have it both ways, you back him up yet overlook obvious contradictions. Fair enough for f***s sake. There is such a thing as a moderate Muslim, yer kna? like ben arfa, tiote etc who will play in a wonga top ? Picking and choosing the rules they follow. Bimpy will go mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Big business stinks. We know. It's not a new phenomenon. What Barclays and co. do behind closed doors is unjustifiable but these services are not directly marketed to the public. We're not advertising reckless investment banking or cluster bombs. Wonga are a payday loan company. That's their service, that's what we advertise. By getting into bed with them we further legitimise loan sharking. If you can't understand why this may cause consternation for Cisse then you're beyond help I'm afraid. How does that square with him gambling then ?. Why can't he gamble with his own money? He's not set a roulette wheel up on Percy Street for f***s sake. Against his religion, so he can cherry pick then ?. So if we were sponsored by a betting company who prey on people with addiction, what would he do then ?. You can't have it both ways, you back him up yet overlook obvious contradictions. Fair enough for f***s sake. There is such a thing as a moderate Muslim, yer kna? Indeed there are, that's the five or so who have no problem playing in the shirt. bee cha ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Big business stinks. We know. It's not a new phenomenon. What Barclays and co. do behind closed doors is unjustifiable but these services are not directly marketed to the public. We're not advertising reckless investment banking or cluster bombs. Wonga are a payday loan company. That's their service, that's what we advertise. By getting into bed with them we further legitimise loan sharking. If you can't understand why this may cause consternation for Cisse then you're beyond help I'm afraid. If the question over Wonga is a moral one rather than a religious one, then why is Cisse still the only member of the playing squad to object to wearing the shirt? Unless I've totally missed the point here, surely every NUFC player, Muslim or not, has a right to protest against advertising payday loan companies on the grounds that it can be seen to be exploitative rather than sacrilegious, and yet Cisse is out on his tod. Either Papiss is some sort of selfless humanitarian or he is simply using this whole debacle to further his own interests. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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