Nucasol Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Paulinho said: Churchill was a journalist during the Second Boer War before fighting very briefly as a junior officer towards the end. Why would you not at least Google it yourself before doubling down? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Paulinho said: Churchill was a journalist during the Second Boer War before fighting very briefly as a junior officer towards the end. Why would you not at least Google it yourself before doubling down? There is plenty of evidence that journalists are capable of committing crimes against humanity tbf. Surely you've read Chris Waugh's weekly transfer (non) update? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 56 minutes ago, 54 said: The jacket that Johnny "Blue Hat" is wearing is a must buy as soon as it comes out like. Absolute sex piss emission when I first seen it 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, Paulinho said: Churchill was a journalist during the Second Boer War before fighting very briefly as a junior officer towards the end. Why would you not at least Google it yourself before doubling down? He gained his fame writing articles defending the concentration camps during this conflict, describing them as "causing the minimum of suffering" whilst there was outrage at home due to the rate of fatalities there. (Only for the white Boer's though, fuck the black South African's). I mean given we were talking about Imperial Japan and their forced labour camps, can we at least acknowledge where they got the idea? And again, was my assertion that the British used them again in the 50’s in the Kenya incorrect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 9 hours ago, ponsaelius said: That is a bit Yikes Particularly since we're going on tour to South Korea in a few weeks So the bloke with zero connection to the area or team that chose to support us because Alan Pardew planted his Tony and Guy quiff on an opposing player ten years ago turns out to be a bit suss (assuming it was his flag of course). Who’d have thought it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 6 hours ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Well by that rationale we should be equally horrified by the Union Flag then, given the tactics utilised by the Imperial Japanese were largely lifted straight from Mr Churchil's South African campaign. And we kind of lose all right to complain, given what we as a nation then did again a decade after the end of WW2, in Kenya during the Mau Mau uprising. The whatabouttery doesn’t cut the mustard here - the flag is banned by FIFA for starters; it absolutely is the equivalent of the swastika or the flag of the confederacy for much of Asia. There’s plenty of crimes in the annals of the British empire, no doubt about it. Kitchener was in charge of the SA campaign, and usually gets much of the blame for the concentration camps (though the Second Boer War was not the origin of concentration camps). You’ll have to show me the history books where beheading competitions by British officers took place, or the organised mass rapes. I’m yet to see any serious objections to the UK being represented by the Union flag by those outside of the UK, including those nations which were subject to British rule in the days of empire. Not at all looking to be an apologist for the British Empire - but all things are relative. The club’s media team (or adidas’s, whoever the fuck put that video together) wants shot with shit. Personally, I’d fire them - but then I think having kit launch videos is the most banal and pointless thing imaginable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyBlanco Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: The whatabouttery doesn’t cut the mustard here - the flag is banned by FIFA for starters; it absolutely is the equivalent of the swastika or the flag of the confederacy for much of Asia. There’s plenty of crimes in the annals of the British empire, no doubt about it. Kitchener was in charge of the SA campaign, and usually gets much of the blame for the concentration camps (though the Second Boer War was not the origin of concentration camps). You’ll have to show me the history books where beheading competitions by British officers took place, or the organised mass rapes. I’m yet to see any serious objections to the UK being represented by the Union flag by those outside of the UK, including those nations which were subject to British rule in the days of empire. Not at all looking to be an apologist for the British Empire - but all things are relative. The club’s media team (or adidas’s, whoever the fuck put that video together) wants shot with shit. Personally, I’d fire them - but then I think having kit launch videos is the most banal and pointless thing imaginable. Kin’ell tbf it’s such a historically obscure flag to the west that any variation of it - especially one with the toon badge - is very likely to go unchecked isn’t it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McEwan Posted 51 minutes ago Share Posted 51 minutes ago Where can I buy the blue hat? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted 19 minutes ago Share Posted 19 minutes ago 42 minutes ago, BennyBlanco said: Kin’ell tbf it’s such a historically obscure flag to the west that any variation of it - especially one with the toon badge - is very likely to go unchecked isn’t it? It’s hardly historically obscure - about a third of the world’s population will get pretty upset if you wave one in their face Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted 10 minutes ago Share Posted 10 minutes ago 7 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: It’s hardly historically obscure - about a third of the world’s population will get pretty upset if you wave one in their face Nearly as many as waving the Union Jack in people's faces, you're right just pointing out some hypocrisy, as our empire's history is far from perfect either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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