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Ivan Toney (now playing for Brentford)


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6 hours ago, OCOCOL said:


until recently you’d be breaking the law in most states for betting online as a fan tbf. 
 

Sheldon Alderson is a 24 carat wanker. Thankfully the states free market principles are gradually extending to online gambling. 

California just voted down an initiative that would allow online gambling.  Thankfully. (I voted against against the initiative myself. )

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5 hours ago, Stottie said:

One good game from Toney and the knives were coming out over Southgate's selection. Had he picked him, the knives would have come out over this. No wonder they call it "the impossible job".

 

 

 

I'm not sure that he's international material. He's strong but not great technically IMO. The Man City game showed why he's gained a reputation but hasn't convinced Southgate or the big clubs, who don't seem that interested, judging from the lack of transfer links. Two decent but fairly basic finishes and then he fluffs an easy chance through a clumsy touch on the ball.

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Wonder how it’s come to light. Wouldn’t be surprised if someone competing for his spot got wind of it and had their agent let it slip.

 

Southgate clearly was unaware when he picked him for the two games prior to the tournament. Wonder if it was during that time it was leaked or just recently.

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Is there any actual proof he has bet on matches involving himself (and on himself to get a red card) - other than coincidence of dates? I assumed he was casually punting on football, if a player really wanted to get into spot fixing for profit then it would not be too hard to cover your tracks with just minimal effort.

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2 minutes ago, Dandy Man said:

Is there any actual proof he has bet on matches involving himself (and on himself to get a red card) - other than coincidence of dates? I assumed he was casually punting on football, if a player really wanted to get into spot fixing for profit then it would not be too hard to cover your tracks with just minimal effort.

It seems to just be some creative play based on the known dates. I highly doubt he's been stupid enough to bet on anything involving Brentford. He'd be finished, Shirley? 

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6 minutes ago, NEEJ said:

It seems to just be some creative play based on the known dates. I highly doubt he's been stupid enough to bet on anything involving Brentford. He'd be finished, Shirley? 

He did start during Mike Ashley's Newcastle to be fair, probably needed the extra cash when he first started and got a buzz from it. :lol: 

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Given how many footballers gamble and how prominent football is as a betting product, should gambling firms restrict a customers access to football betting products if the customer is known to be a professional footballer? Obviously can still just bet via an intermediary but given the effort firms now put into monitoring and verifying customers identities it seems like would be fairly easy to do.

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33 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

Was it Merson who got a ban for involvement in spot fixing involving a throw in within 10 seconds?

Think it was Le Tissier who subsequently admitted to attempting something like that. Merson just bet on everything.

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51 minutes ago, 54 said:

He did start during Mike Ashley's Newcastle to be fair, probably needed the extra cash when he first started and got a buzz from it. :lol: 

 

:lol: It hadn't clicked with me that he was still with us when he started. Probably Big Mike's betting mule.

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1 hour ago, LFEE said:

Wonder how it’s come to light. Wouldn’t be surprised if someone competing for his spot got wind of it and had their agent let it slip.

 

Southgate clearly was unaware when he picked him for the two games prior to the tournament. Wonder if it was during that time it was leaked or just recently.

He’s been investigated over the last 7 or 8 months, reports have stated. Southgate picked him for the last squad obviously knowing full well this was occurring.

 

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1 hour ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

Was it Merson who got a ban for involvement in spot fixing involving a throw in within 10 seconds?

It was Madman Le Tissier but he never received a ban or any sort of punishment. Admitted it after retirement I think.

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I saw it reported there was no suggestion Toney betted on his own games or was involved in match fixing, which I thought were the kind of things you would think a lifetime ban was for, would have thought it would be closer to Barton or Tripps punishment, albeit that is a lot of offences...

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