Optimistic Nut Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Not even sure he told his mates to bet on it, just that he was moving there. Worst one was a bookies opening a market on that non-league keeper eating a pie or something on the bench and him doing it. Sure he got a ban but bet the bookies who ran the market got no punishment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Not even sure he told his mates to bet on it, just that he was moving there. Kind of did to be fair https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/kieran-trippier-ban-whatsapp-messages-23267712?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Numpty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Would be pretty hard to hit him with a 10 game ban unless there was something genuinely fishy about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Manxst said: Kind of did to be fair https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/kieran-trippier-ban-whatsapp-messages-23267712?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target While that is daft of him, the only losers in this scenario are the betting companies and honestly fuck them cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCOCOL Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 5 hours ago, gazza ladra said: California just voted down an initiative that would allow online gambling. Thankfully. (I voted against against the initiative myself. ) why if I may ask? It’s a legitimate leisure pursuit and as the US have proved in the past prohibiting stuff that has a public demand rarely minimises the societal harm. Far better to regulate imho. fwiw I’ll declare I have skin in the game as I work in the online gambling industry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 30 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Not even sure he told his mates to bet on it, just that he was moving there. Worst one was a bookies opening a market on that non-league keeper eating a pie or something on the bench and him doing it. Sure he got a ban but bet the bookies who ran the market got no punishment. The lack of accountability for the firms themselves is astounding. Even one single brand can fulfil a self-perpetuating cycle of introducing a 'next manager of x club', market push rumours about that next manager on their own news channels before touting the betting prices they created and taking money based on their own unsubstantiated rumours. Totally above board. But God forbid a lad's mates make a bit of profit on his next place of work. It goes without saying that that rant is also totally separate to if someone is betting on things that can influence an actual match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, tgarve said: Trippier didn’t bet on it he told his friends he was moving to atletico then they did Completely different incidents Also was nothing effecting results in game etc. It was just a heads up to mates on a possible transfer. Not sure if he should’ve got charged for anything TBH. More fool the bookies with that particular betting market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, gbandit said: Toney will know the best odds going Aye i'll set them up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Ivan Benjamin Elijah Toney Lolz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, LFEE said: Also was nothing effecting results in game etc. It was just a heads up to mates on a possible transfer. Not sure if he should’ve got charged for anything TBH. More fool the bookies with that particular betting market. Well he got charged and served a 10 game ban, which is quite a hefty punishment. Didn't he have legal representation to protest that it was never anything serious? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, TRon said: Well he got charged and served a 10 game ban, which is quite a hefty punishment. Didn't he have legal representation to protest that it was never anything serious? Also got a £70k fine. He claimed at the time that the messages to his mates were just ‘banter’, but the disciplinary committee found otherwise and him guilty of four breaches of a rule which prevents players from providing information to others on their position which is not available in public at the time. It might’ve just been a ‘heads up’ to mates, but it’s still a transgression of regulations and he was daft for doing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Daniel Sturridge did the same as Trippier and then ended up not moving, bet his mates were delighted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 So because we don’t want grasping parasites to lose a minuscule percentage of their hoardings, people aren’t allowed to tell their mates about a new job? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Man Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Trippier had supposedly sent messages telling his mates that he was going to Atletico and they could "lump on". Whether or not he should have faced any sanction is debatable but it is inside information that was clearly provable in via messages so it is probably fair enough. Still think it's only the careless/stupid that get pulled up on these things and any player who even makes half an effort to not get caught won't get caught - unless it is actual fixing and there is a ton of money going down in obscure markets that would obviously raise some red flags (proving any direct connection would be another matter though). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, Hovagod said: So because we don’t want grasping parasites to lose a minuscule percentage of their hoardings, people aren’t allowed to tell their mates about a new job? Not if it’s against regulations that you’ve signed up to abide by, no. Just keep your mouth shut for a week or two. Surely the £100k a week wage would be a sufficient incentive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) To be honest I think that sort of thing should be fair game. If bookies are going to give markets for that sort of thing then they should take the hits as well as the billions they make from people. Things like Toney getting himself sent-off though where it's impacting the sport and game is different. Edited November 17, 2022 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Football's relationship with gambling surely needs looking at. Nearly every club (including Brentford themselves) are sponsored by a gambling company Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Looking at what Tripper did and what he got given as punishment then you'd hope Toney gets a longer ban. If anything I'd say, ban him from playing for the rest of the current season, whack a fine on him and call it done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Trippier's ban was so short because they wanted him to play in some crucial games for England iirc. It's all FA type bans iirc. Could be totally wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 There’s a few videos popping up now of him doing dodgy stuff prior to him “quitting” betting. One where he handballed off the line to be sent off and also a sending off in the 95th min when Brentford were 1-0 up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 I have a sneaky suspicion it's bookies that have lost money that are the ones who report this stuff to the authorities. Silly boy. Seems that he wasn't betting on games he was involved in, but rules are rules. I think gambling in general is something that needs to be looked at in serious depth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Football is intimately connected with the gambling industry, sadly. They definitely should ban gambling sponsors for a start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Looks like they were trying to, @AyeDubbleYoo: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12645911/premier-league-seeks-clubs-backing-for-gambling-sponsor-ban Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) That was only so Government dont legislate for it themselves. Think they tried to get general PL agreement that they would have no more front shirt sponsors for gambling firms and allow existing deals to run to 24/25. But Id imagine there would still be sleeve sponsors allowed, stadium sponsors etc. It should be legislated for imo. Ban it from kits and stadium advertising. Edited November 17, 2022 by Super Duper Branko Strupar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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