The Folk On About Ronaldo And The Likes....

[Dokko]

I stopped watching the Italian league a few years ago, but I've never thught a great much of Totti.

 

Awesome player against poor opposition but whenever I see him play in really big matches he always seem to be quite poor. The games against Man U will be a good test, hope he proves me wrong.

 

Bit like Ronaldo actually.

 

Ronaldo's only young tbh, and his performances in big games is improving from what I've seen.

 

Totti never seemed to do so.

 

He might be talking about the fat one and his crumble in the WC finals against France.

 

No because saying the Ronaldo doesn't show up for big games is absurd. Then again what can you do if you have a fit the night before a World Cup final and are still your teams best player despite looking nowhere near any of the player during the tournament who was far better than anyone else.

 

He had a nervous breakdown as the pressure on him was too much.

 

He was utter shite that match, the worst player on the pitch.

 

Yet the only Brazilian who looked like scoring, funny that.

 

The pressure on him was so much that he came back four years later despite playing only a season and a half of footy to score twice in the World Cup final and then also totaling up the highest tally of goals someone has scored for 32 years.

 

Brazil collapsed under the media pressure when reports of him banging his head off the wall in his hotel room were released, everyone was stunned, even more so that he was playing to be fair.

 

There have been plenty of big night Champions league games where he hasn't performed, but seems to get lots of goals against the weaker teams.

 

It really all depends on how fat he is on how well he can play. Fat Ronaldo is not on physically shite, he's mentally not up for it. Loses a stone or so moving to Milan and is in amongst the goals already, the hunger is back, but for how long? By next season he'll be looking for a new club imo.

 

For someone who's not mentally up for it if you can tell me a better striker over the past decade then be my guest but I certainly cannot think of one, he's done pretty well for a player who is only 60% of the one who we saw from 96-99.

 

Brazil collapsed due to the fact Edmundo had a 70 year old Mario Zagallo by the throat and all of the in fighting in that team.

 

When Ronaldo wants it he's immense, but too many times he's let himself go and had to battle back to either regain fitness of form, usually both.

 

Why is he 60% of the player we saw back then? Can't really blame injuries, not been that bad compared to Shearer who still managed to score frequently after his.

 

Ronaldo has also managed to score more than frequently after his injuries as well but he's still only 60% of the player he was before it, Michael Owen's not a patch on the player before his injuries either, Shearer wasn't a patch on the player from 92-97 after he done his ankle, Gazza after that cup final etc.

 

If you can't blame injuries then what else is there to blame? before his injuries he's the only player I've ever seen who had the ability when he was anywhere within 50 yards from goal where you fancied to beat all of the players in front of him and actually score (as Maradona's prime was too early for me) and the knee injuries took all that away from him due to his inability to be able to train barely on his knees thus loosing his stamina and conditioning and him having to convert into more of a predator. He wasn't even that player in 2002 but still managed all of those goals.

 

Do you think that's what happened to Ronaldo, or does he just have a tendency to get complacent?

 

 

[Tooj]

Im confused, has HTT changed his name again or is this an imposter?

 

Those folk are all locked up at this time of night.

[Tooj]

I stopped watching the Italian league a few years ago, but I've never thught a great much of Totti.

 

Awesome player against poor opposition but whenever I see him play in really big matches he always seem to be quite poor. The games against Man U will be a good test, hope he proves me wrong.

 

Bit like Ronaldo actually.

 

Ronaldo's only young tbh, and his performances in big games is improving from what I've seen.

 

Totti never seemed to do so.

 

He might be talking about the fat one and his crumble in the WC finals against France.

 

No because saying the Ronaldo doesn't show up for big games is absurd. Then again what can you do if you have a fit the night before a World Cup final and are still your teams best player despite looking nowhere near any of the player during the tournament who was far better than anyone else.

 

He had a nervous breakdown as the pressure on him was too much.

 

He was utter shite that match, the worst player on the pitch.

 

Yet the only Brazilian who looked like scoring, funny that.

 

The pressure on him was so much that he came back four years later despite playing only a season and a half of footy to score twice in the World Cup final and then also totaling up the highest tally of goals someone has scored for 32 years.

 

Brazil collapsed under the media pressure when reports of him banging his head off the wall in his hotel room were released, everyone was stunned, even more so that he was playing to be fair.

 

There have been plenty of big night Champions league games where he hasn't performed, but seems to get lots of goals against the weaker teams.

 

It really all depends on how fat he is on how well he can play. Fat Ronaldo is not on physically shite, he's mentally not up for it. Loses a stone or so moving to Milan and is in amongst the goals already, the hunger is back, but for how long? By next season he'll be looking for a new club imo.

 

For someone who's not mentally up for it if you can tell me a better striker over the past decade then be my guest but I certainly cannot think of one, he's done pretty well for a player who is only 60% of the one who we saw from 96-99.

 

Brazil collapsed due to the fact Edmundo had a 70 year old Mario Zagallo by the throat and all of the in fighting in that team.

 

When Ronaldo wants it he's immense, but too many times he's let himself go and had to battle back to either regain fitness of form, usually both.

 

Why is he 60% of the player we saw back then? Can't really blame injuries, not been that bad compared to Shearer who still managed to score frequently after his.

 

Ronaldo has also managed to score more than frequently after his injuries as well but he's still only 60% of the player he was before it, Michael Owen's not a patch on the player before his injuries either, Shearer wasn't a patch on the player from 92-97 after he done his ankle, Gazza after that cup final etc.

 

If you can't blame injuries then what else is there to blame? before his injuries he's the only player I've ever seen who had the ability when he was anywhere within 50 yards from goal where you fancied to beat all of the players in front of him and actually score (as Maradona's prime was too early for me) and the knee injuries took all that away from him due to his inability to be able to train barely on his knees thus loosing his stamina and conditioning and him having to convert into more of a predator. He wasn't even that player in 2002 but still managed all of those goals.

 

Do you think that's what happened to Ronaldo, or does he just have a tendency to get complacent?

 

 

 

A bit of both actually, although you still haven't managed to answer my question and name me a better striker of the past decade.

[Guest LucaAltieri]

Im confused, has HTT changed his name again or is this an imposter?

 

I'm no imposter, I'm coach HRT.

 

Our avatars are similar, I'll give you that... however, mine was the original. He ripped me off.

[Dokko]

I stopped watching the Italian league a few years ago, but I've never thught a great much of Totti.

 

Awesome player against poor opposition but whenever I see him play in really big matches he always seem to be quite poor. The games against Man U will be a good test, hope he proves me wrong.

 

Bit like Ronaldo actually.

 

Ronaldo's only young tbh, and his performances in big games is improving from what I've seen.

 

Totti never seemed to do so.

 

He might be talking about the fat one and his crumble in the WC finals against France.

 

No because saying the Ronaldo doesn't show up for big games is absurd. Then again what can you do if you have a fit the night before a World Cup final and are still your teams best player despite looking nowhere near any of the player during the tournament who was far better than anyone else.

 

He had a nervous breakdown as the pressure on him was too much.

 

He was utter shite that match, the worst player on the pitch.

 

Yet the only Brazilian who looked like scoring, funny that.

 

The pressure on him was so much that he came back four years later despite playing only a season and a half of footy to score twice in the World Cup final and then also totaling up the highest tally of goals someone has scored for 32 years.

 

Brazil collapsed under the media pressure when reports of him banging his head off the wall in his hotel room were released, everyone was stunned, even more so that he was playing to be fair.

 

There have been plenty of big night Champions league games where he hasn't performed, but seems to get lots of goals against the weaker teams.

 

It really all depends on how fat he is on how well he can play. Fat Ronaldo is not on physically shite, he's mentally not up for it. Loses a stone or so moving to Milan and is in amongst the goals already, the hunger is back, but for how long? By next season he'll be looking for a new club imo.

 

For someone who's not mentally up for it if you can tell me a better striker over the past decade then be my guest but I certainly cannot think of one, he's done pretty well for a player who is only 60% of the one who we saw from 96-99.

 

Brazil collapsed due to the fact Edmundo had a 70 year old Mario Zagallo by the throat and all of the in fighting in that team.

 

When Ronaldo wants it he's immense, but too many times he's let himself go and had to battle back to either regain fitness of form, usually both.

 

Why is he 60% of the player we saw back then? Can't really blame injuries, not been that bad compared to Shearer who still managed to score frequently after his.

 

Ronaldo has also managed to score more than frequently after his injuries as well but he's still only 60% of the player he was before it, Michael Owen's not a patch on the player before his injuries either, Shearer wasn't a patch on the player from 92-97 after he done his ankle, Gazza after that cup final etc.

 

If you can't blame injuries then what else is there to blame? before his injuries he's the only player I've ever seen who had the ability when he was anywhere within 50 yards from goal where you fancied to beat all of the players in front of him and actually score (as Maradona's prime was too early for me) and the knee injuries took all that away from him due to his inability to be able to train barely on his knees thus loosing his stamina and conditioning and him having to convert into more of a predator. He wasn't even that player in 2002 but still managed all of those goals.

 

Do you think that's what happened to Ronaldo, or does he just have a tendency to get complacent?

 

 

 

A bit of both actually, although you still haven't managed to answer my question and name me a better striker of the past decade.

 

Personal opinion, better striker?

 

Shearer

Shevchenko

Henry

 

IMO of course.

 

 

[Decky]

Judging by that dodgy 'R' in yours id say someone ripped someone off

[Tooj]

I stopped watching the Italian league a few years ago, but I've never thught a great much of Totti.

 

Awesome player against poor opposition but whenever I see him play in really big matches he always seem to be quite poor. The games against Man U will be a good test, hope he proves me wrong.

 

Bit like Ronaldo actually.

 

Ronaldo's only young tbh, and his performances in big games is improving from what I've seen.

 

Totti never seemed to do so.

 

He might be talking about the fat one and his crumble in the WC finals against France.

 

No because saying the Ronaldo doesn't show up for big games is absurd. Then again what can you do if you have a fit the night before a World Cup final and are still your teams best player despite looking nowhere near any of the player during the tournament who was far better than anyone else.

 

He had a nervous breakdown as the pressure on him was too much.

 

He was utter shite that match, the worst player on the pitch.

 

Yet the only Brazilian who looked like scoring, funny that.

 

The pressure on him was so much that he came back four years later despite playing only a season and a half of footy to score twice in the World Cup final and then also totaling up the highest tally of goals someone has scored for 32 years.

 

Brazil collapsed under the media pressure when reports of him banging his head off the wall in his hotel room were released, everyone was stunned, even more so that he was playing to be fair.

 

There have been plenty of big night Champions league games where he hasn't performed, but seems to get lots of goals against the weaker teams.

 

It really all depends on how fat he is on how well he can play. Fat Ronaldo is not on physically shite, he's mentally not up for it. Loses a stone or so moving to Milan and is in amongst the goals already, the hunger is back, but for how long? By next season he'll be looking for a new club imo.

 

For someone who's not mentally up for it if you can tell me a better striker over the past decade then be my guest but I certainly cannot think of one, he's done pretty well for a player who is only 60% of the one who we saw from 96-99.

 

Brazil collapsed due to the fact Edmundo had a 70 year old Mario Zagallo by the throat and all of the in fighting in that team.

 

When Ronaldo wants it he's immense, but too many times he's let himself go and had to battle back to either regain fitness of form, usually both.

 

Why is he 60% of the player we saw back then? Can't really blame injuries, not been that bad compared to Shearer who still managed to score frequently after his.

 

Ronaldo has also managed to score more than frequently after his injuries as well but he's still only 60% of the player he was before it, Michael Owen's not a patch on the player before his injuries either, Shearer wasn't a patch on the player from 92-97 after he done his ankle, Gazza after that cup final etc.

 

If you can't blame injuries then what else is there to blame? before his injuries he's the only player I've ever seen who had the ability when he was anywhere within 50 yards from goal where you fancied to beat all of the players in front of him and actually score (as Maradona's prime was too early for me) and the knee injuries took all that away from him due to his inability to be able to train barely on his knees thus loosing his stamina and conditioning and him having to convert into more of a predator. He wasn't even that player in 2002 but still managed all of those goals.

 

Do you think that's what happened to Ronaldo, or does he just have a tendency to get complacent?

 

 

 

A bit of both actually, although you still haven't managed to answer my question and name me a better striker of the past decade.

 

Personal opinion, better striker?

 

Shearer

Shevchenko

Henry

 

IMO of course.

 

 

 

In his prime which of course was not for very long I don't see any of them matching Ronaldo, he was always a level about the competition, and that is a huge compliment when you consider the glut of top class strikers around then compared to now. There was Shearer, Weah, Batistuta but I can't see any of them matching what Ronaldo brought to the table when he signed for Barcelona in '96.

 

The mobile Shearer from 92-97 was the best striker I've seen over here I used to love watching him play, didn't it feel great when we'd signed the best striker in the world? still loved watching him even when he lost the legs all be it being completely different and having to operate down the centre with his back to goal instead of the running down the channel when he'd also put in some of the best crosses you'd see. You can never stop the footballing brain he had even if the legs couldn't catch up with it.

 

I know I'm not alone despite the great service we got feeling a little bit robbed after that wet summer's afternoon in Goodison.

[Dokko]

I stopped watching the Italian league a few years ago, but I've never thught a great much of Totti.

 

Awesome player against poor opposition but whenever I see him play in really big matches he always seem to be quite poor. The games against Man U will be a good test, hope he proves me wrong.

 

Bit like Ronaldo actually.

 

Ronaldo's only young tbh, and his performances in big games is improving from what I've seen.

 

Totti never seemed to do so.

 

He might be talking about the fat one and his crumble in the WC finals against France.

 

No because saying the Ronaldo doesn't show up for big games is absurd. Then again what can you do if you have a fit the night before a World Cup final and are still your teams best player despite looking nowhere near any of the player during the tournament who was far better than anyone else.

 

He had a nervous breakdown as the pressure on him was too much.

 

He was utter shite that match, the worst player on the pitch.

 

Yet the only Brazilian who looked like scoring, funny that.

 

The pressure on him was so much that he came back four years later despite playing only a season and a half of footy to score twice in the World Cup final and then also totaling up the highest tally of goals someone has scored for 32 years.

 

Brazil collapsed under the media pressure when reports of him banging his head off the wall in his hotel room were released, everyone was stunned, even more so that he was playing to be fair.

 

There have been plenty of big night Champions league games where he hasn't performed, but seems to get lots of goals against the weaker teams.

 

It really all depends on how fat he is on how well he can play. Fat Ronaldo is not on physically shite, he's mentally not up for it. Loses a stone or so moving to Milan and is in amongst the goals already, the hunger is back, but for how long? By next season he'll be looking for a new club imo.

 

For someone who's not mentally up for it if you can tell me a better striker over the past decade then be my guest but I certainly cannot think of one, he's done pretty well for a player who is only 60% of the one who we saw from 96-99.

 

Brazil collapsed due to the fact Edmundo had a 70 year old Mario Zagallo by the throat and all of the in fighting in that team.

 

When Ronaldo wants it he's immense, but too many times he's let himself go and had to battle back to either regain fitness of form, usually both.

 

Why is he 60% of the player we saw back then? Can't really blame injuries, not been that bad compared to Shearer who still managed to score frequently after his.

 

Ronaldo has also managed to score more than frequently after his injuries as well but he's still only 60% of the player he was before it, Michael Owen's not a patch on the player before his injuries either, Shearer wasn't a patch on the player from 92-97 after he done his ankle, Gazza after that cup final etc.

 

If you can't blame injuries then what else is there to blame? before his injuries he's the only player I've ever seen who had the ability when he was anywhere within 50 yards from goal where you fancied to beat all of the players in front of him and actually score (as Maradona's prime was too early for me) and the knee injuries took all that away from him due to his inability to be able to train barely on his knees thus loosing his stamina and conditioning and him having to convert into more of a predator. He wasn't even that player in 2002 but still managed all of those goals.

 

Do you think that's what happened to Ronaldo, or does he just have a tendency to get complacent?

 

 

 

A bit of both actually, although you still haven't managed to answer my question and name me a better striker of the past decade.

 

Personal opinion, better striker?

 

Shearer

Shevchenko

Henry

 

IMO of course.

 

 

 

In his prime which of course was not for very long I don't see any of them matching Ronaldo, he was always a level about the competition, and that is a huge compliment when you consider the glut of top class strikers around then compared to now. There was Shearer, Weah, Batistuta but I can't see any of them matching what Ronaldo brought to the table when he signed for Barcelona in '96.

 

The mobile Shearer from 92-97 was the best striker I've seen over here I used to love watching him play, didn't it feel great when we'd signed the best striker in the world? still loved watching him even when he lost the legs all be it being completely different and having to operate down the centre with his back to goal instead of the running down the channel when he'd also put in some of the best crosses you'd see. You can never stop the footballing brain he had even if the legs couldn't catch up with it.

 

I know I'm not alone despite the great service we got feeling a little bit robbed after that wet summer's afternoon in Goodison.

 

Talking of sick moments (in another thread) that had to be up there, you just knew didn't you?

 

Bastard, if only he didn't play in that shitty game.

 

But Shearer came back, changed his style and still put himself up there with the best even though the club he played for had so many problems.

 

Ronaldo has played with the best, trained with the best coaches and had every single opportunity handed to him and with no doubt had a talent only a select few humans will ever posses, yet he was ungrateful, lazy and selfish with it. Its those reasons i cannot class Ronaldo above those i have listed, i look at the type of personality in a player as well when considering who i rate as the best at such & such, that might be wrong but its how my mind works.

[Guest brewer]

On current form this is the best player in the world.

 

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/06/19/totti_gallery__323x400,0.jpg

that's a very good post my friend..

 

Un capitano, c'è solo un capitano

 

c'è solo un capitano, un finocchio di merde chi non puo stare a piedi.

So whats that mean then

[Decky]

Shit this isnt going to be one of those annoying quote pyramid things again is it?