Newcastle Fan Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Good Article written by Norman Hubbard-ESPN Given his visible unease when confronted by a microphone or a camera, Glenn Roeder cannot be described as being at ease in the spotlight Even by his own standards, however, the Newcastle manager has been a little prickly recently. Once a centre-back, he has been on the defensive on a wide range of topics. Some - such as Michael Owen's comeback date - are inexplicable; thus far, it is hard to find fault with Roeder's management of an injured player. But others reflect badly upon Roeder. Damien Duff's rumoured move to Sunderland brought the implication that the winger has failed at Newcastle, and Roeder was the manager who authorised a £5 million fee, aided by Newcastle's typical largesse when paying wages. Criticism of Scott Parker, appointed captain by Roeder, may have been viewed as a barely-veiled dig at the manager himself. Yet the sphere where there is greatest scope for censure is in the results, an area where Roeder's responsibility is clear. Newcastle may now be found in the upper half of the Premiership, but they have only just managed to extract themselves from a relegation battle, albeit one that Roeder never admitted they were a part of. Reaching the last 16 of the UEFA Cup, where elimination is often harder to secure than progress, hardly qualifies as a triumph. Newcastle's European campaign may have occupied eight months and involved opponents from nine nations, yet it merely served as a lengthy distraction. Moreover, defeat to AZ Alkmaar, a team with a fraction of the budget of their own, highlighted two perennial weaknesses: outside the elite of the big four, Newcastle's spending power may be matched only by Tottenham - though, given the weekly remuneration of Duff and Parker, the Magpies can be more generous than the Londoners; and the defence. Were there a direct correlation between expenditure and achievement, therefore, Newcastle, and not Bolton Wanderers, whose manager Sam Allardyce was overlooked when Roeder was appointed, would occupy fifth place. Injuries and the debilitating effect of an interminable number of UEFA Cup games can only explain so much (how much effort is required to overcome Levadia Tallinn?). Yet Newcastle, despite a historical preference for cavalier football, are a team with two Premiership goals in as many months. Another long-time trend is for dubious defending. Their failure to reach the last eight of the UEFA Cup can be attributed to it. Within 40 minutes of the match at St James' Park, Newcastle had a 4-1 advantage. Conceding once in the second half there and twice in Alkmaar the following week ended their participation. A scapegoat was immediately identified: Titus Bramble has not been spotted since. Yet, nearing the end of a five-year contract, does it qualify as news that Bramble is error-prone? It was a second competition Newcastle departed reflecting on the failure of their back four. The 5-1 FA Cup defeat to Birmingham City qualifies as a humiliation. It came during the transfer window. Roeder's adherents argue he was reluctant to sign substandard players in January, yet recruits need not have been exceptional to improve the Newcastle rearguard. In any case, a more serious omission was neglecting to bolster his defence last summer. Since Jonathan Woodgate joined Real Madrid in 2004, Newcastle have only paid a fee for one central defender, and Jean-Alain Boumsong appears to have deterred them from buying others, although quiet American Oguchi Onyewu was borrowed. Instead, marquee players, such as Duff and the sporadically brilliant Obafemi Martins, have been brought in. With 17 goals, recruiting the Nigerian, though prone to utterly insipid performances, ranks among Roeder's achievements. So does the revitalisation of Nicky Butt and the continuing development of Steven Taylor. Antoine Sibierski, unwanted at Manchester City, can be classified as a qualified success as a short-term signing while, as a makeshift right-back, Nolberto Solano has proved more popular than usual incumbent Stephen Carr. But on the debit side, there are some questionable selections. James Milner, a rarity in retaining his fitness all season, must be a contender for the club's Player of the Year award. However, he was left an unused substitute in Alkmaar. His eventual restoration to the team brought four points from two games, against Sheffield United and Newcastle. Then there is Emre, seemingly bound for the exit. Roeder's botched attempt to brush allegations of racism against the Turk under the carpet failed and his Newcastle career may end on the bench. Albert Luque has neither been offloaded nor involved, another reason why Newcastle's outlay is not reflected on the pitch. Emre looks to be headed for the exit.And while Owen has been unavailable all season, they have a mere 34 goals in 32 Premiership games. Exclude Martins, and it is a miserable return. Nor do some of the performances rank as an improvement: the capitulation at Charlton angered Neil Warnock (for its impact on the relegation battle) as well as Roeder. Losing at home to Manchester City was as bad. It means Roeder's is a record that is open to interpretation. To what extent do the mitigating factors explain the underachievement? How much is the culture of the club the problem? Roeder has claimed failure is 'stitched into the badge' at Newcastle. That doesn't necessarily make him the man to unstitch it, however. There are those who believe Alan Shearer's outstanding finishing and execrable punditry qualify him to manage Newcastle, and a suspicion that Freddy Shepherd is among that number. There is also the probability that, given Shearer's sabbatical on television and Shepherd's description of Roeder as 'an honorary Geordie', that the Newcastle manager will retain his post for the start of next season. But it is little wonder that Glenn Roeder appears uneasy. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=420464&root=england&cc=3888 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andynufc84 Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Well done to this bloke (whoever he is) for writng something we all bloody well know anyway. Hardly insightful is it. What exactly is this article supposed to achieve? Tell us something we don't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest nufc 4 life Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Good Article written by Norman Hubbard-ESPN Given his visible unease when confronted by a microphone or a camera, Glenn Roeder cannot be described as being at ease in the spotlight Even by his own standards, however, the Newcastle manager has been a little prickly recently. Once a centre-back, he has been on the defensive on a wide range of topics. Some - such as Michael Owen's comeback date - are inexplicable; thus far, it is hard to find fault with Roeder's management of an injured player. But others reflect badly upon Roeder. Damien Duff's rumoured move to Sunderland brought the implication that the winger has failed at Newcastle, and Roeder was the manager who authorised a £5 million fee, aided by Newcastle's typical largesse when paying wages. Criticism of Scott Parker, appointed captain by Roeder, may have been viewed as a barely-veiled dig at the manager himself. Yet the sphere where there is greatest scope for censure is in the results, an area where Roeder's responsibility is clear. Newcastle may now be found in the upper half of the Premiership, but they have only just managed to extract themselves from a relegation battle, albeit one that Roeder never admitted they were a part of. Reaching the last 16 of the UEFA Cup, where elimination is often harder to secure than progress, hardly qualifies as a triumph. Newcastle's European campaign may have occupied eight months and involved opponents from nine nations, yet it merely served as a lengthy distraction. Moreover, defeat to AZ Alkmaar, a team with a fraction of the budget of their own, highlighted two perennial weaknesses: outside the elite of the big four, Newcastle's spending power may be matched only by Tottenham - though, given the weekly remuneration of Duff and Parker, the Magpies can be more generous than the Londoners; and the defence. Were there a direct correlation between expenditure and achievement, therefore, Newcastle, and not Bolton Wanderers, whose manager Sam Allardyce was overlooked when Roeder was appointed, would occupy fifth place. Injuries and the debilitating effect of an interminable number of UEFA Cup games can only explain so much (how much effort is required to overcome Levadia Tallinn?). Yet Newcastle, despite a historical preference for cavalier football, are a team with two Premiership goals in as many months. Another long-time trend is for dubious defending. Their failure to reach the last eight of the UEFA Cup can be attributed to it. Within 40 minutes of the match at St James' Park, Newcastle had a 4-1 advantage. Conceding once in the second half there and twice in Alkmaar the following week ended their participation. A scapegoat was immediately identified: Titus Bramble has not been spotted since. Yet, nearing the end of a five-year contract, does it qualify as news that Bramble is error-prone? It was a second competition Newcastle departed reflecting on the failure of their back four. The 5-1 FA Cup defeat to Birmingham City qualifies as a humiliation. It came during the transfer window. Roeder's adherents argue he was reluctant to sign substandard players in January, yet recruits need not have been exceptional to improve the Newcastle rearguard. In any case, a more serious omission was neglecting to bolster his defence last summer. Since Jonathan Woodgate joined Real Madrid in 2004, Newcastle have only paid a fee for one central defender, and Jean-Alain Boumsong appears to have deterred them from buying others, although quiet American Oguchi Onyewu was borrowed. Instead, marquee players, such as Duff and the sporadically brilliant Obafemi Martins, have been brought in. With 17 goals, recruiting the Nigerian, though prone to utterly insipid performances, ranks among Roeder's achievements. So does the revitalisation of Nicky Butt and the continuing development of Steven Taylor. Antoine Sibierski, unwanted at Manchester City, can be classified as a qualified success as a short-term signing while, as a makeshift right-back, Nolberto Solano has proved more popular than usual incumbent Stephen Carr. But on the debit side, there are some questionable selections. James Milner, a rarity in retaining his fitness all season, must be a contender for the club's Player of the Year award. However, he was left an unused substitute in Alkmaar. His eventual restoration to the team brought four points from two games, against Sheffield United and Newcastle. Then there is Emre, seemingly bound for the exit. Roeder's botched attempt to brush allegations of racism against the Turk under the carpet failed and his Newcastle career may end on the bench. Albert Luque has neither been offloaded nor involved, another reason why Newcastle's outlay is not reflected on the pitch. Emre looks to be headed for the exit.And while Owen has been unavailable all season, they have a mere 34 goals in 32 Premiership games. Exclude Martins, and it is a miserable return. Nor do some of the performances rank as an improvement: the capitulation at Charlton angered Neil Warnock (for its impact on the relegation battle) as well as Roeder. Losing at home to Manchester City was as bad. It means Roeder's is a record that is open to interpretation. To what extent do the mitigating factors explain the underachievement? How much is the culture of the club the problem? Roeder has claimed failure is 'stitched into the badge' at Newcastle. That doesn't necessarily make him the man to unstitch it, however. There are those who believe Alan Shearer's outstanding finishing and execrable punditry qualify him to manage Newcastle, and a suspicion that Freddy Shepherd is among that number. There is also the probability that, given Shearer's sabbatical on television and Shepherd's description of Roeder as 'an honorary Geordie', that the Newcastle manager will retain his post for the start of next season. But it is little wonder that Glenn Roeder appears uneasy. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=420464&root=england&cc=3888 what a load of s**** that is. A fit owen and i mean fit, would guarantee us 20 goals a season 7 goals in 12 appearences proves this. He also fails to mention the fact that we also lost Ameobi to a long term injury who has scored 1 in 2 under GR. Add the fact that we also missed out on Dyer for the first half of the season and also had only one fit striker during this time 34 golas in 32 doesn't look to bad to me. It's just our defence letting us down yet again, i.e leading against Bolton and Everton at St James and letting our lead slips our prime examples of us throwing away points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Good Article written by Norman Hubbard-ESPN Given his visible unease when confronted by a microphone or a camera, Glenn Roeder cannot be described as being at ease in the spotlight Even by his own standards, however, the Newcastle manager has been a little prickly recently. Once a centre-back, he has been on the defensive on a wide range of topics. Some - such as Michael Owen's comeback date - are inexplicable; thus far, it is hard to find fault with Roeder's management of an injured player. But others reflect badly upon Roeder. Damien Duff's rumoured move to Sunderland brought the implication that the winger has failed at Newcastle, and Roeder was the manager who authorised a £5 million fee, aided by Newcastle's typical largesse when paying wages. Criticism of Scott Parker, appointed captain by Roeder, may have been viewed as a barely-veiled dig at the manager himself. Yet the sphere where there is greatest scope for censure is in the results, an area where Roeder's responsibility is clear. Newcastle may now be found in the upper half of the Premiership, but they have only just managed to extract themselves from a relegation battle, albeit one that Roeder never admitted they were a part of. Reaching the last 16 of the UEFA Cup, where elimination is often harder to secure than progress, hardly qualifies as a triumph. Newcastle's European campaign may have occupied eight months and involved opponents from nine nations, yet it merely served as a lengthy distraction. Moreover, defeat to AZ Alkmaar, a team with a fraction of the budget of their own, highlighted two perennial weaknesses: outside the elite of the big four, Newcastle's spending power may be matched only by Tottenham - though, given the weekly remuneration of Duff and Parker, the Magpies can be more generous than the Londoners; and the defence. Were there a direct correlation between expenditure and achievement, therefore, Newcastle, and not Bolton Wanderers, whose manager Sam Allardyce was overlooked when Roeder was appointed, would occupy fifth place. Injuries and the debilitating effect of an interminable number of UEFA Cup games can only explain so much (how much effort is required to overcome Levadia Tallinn?). Yet Newcastle, despite a historical preference for cavalier football, are a team with two Premiership goals in as many months. Another long-time trend is for dubious defending. Their failure to reach the last eight of the UEFA Cup can be attributed to it. Within 40 minutes of the match at St James' Park, Newcastle had a 4-1 advantage. Conceding once in the second half there and twice in Alkmaar the following week ended their participation. A scapegoat was immediately identified: Titus Bramble has not been spotted since. Yet, nearing the end of a five-year contract, does it qualify as news that Bramble is error-prone? It was a second competition Newcastle departed reflecting on the failure of their back four. The 5-1 FA Cup defeat to Birmingham City qualifies as a humiliation. It came during the transfer window. Roeder's adherents argue he was reluctant to sign substandard players in January, yet recruits need not have been exceptional to improve the Newcastle rearguard. In any case, a more serious omission was neglecting to bolster his defence last summer. Since Jonathan Woodgate joined Real Madrid in 2004, Newcastle have only paid a fee for one central defender, and Jean-Alain Boumsong appears to have deterred them from buying others, although quiet American Oguchi Onyewu was borrowed. Instead, marquee players, such as Duff and the sporadically brilliant Obafemi Martins, have been brought in. With 17 goals, recruiting the Nigerian, though prone to utterly insipid performances, ranks among Roeder's achievements. So does the revitalisation of Nicky Butt and the continuing development of Steven Taylor. Antoine Sibierski, unwanted at Manchester City, can be classified as a qualified success as a short-term signing while, as a makeshift right-back, Nolberto Solano has proved more popular than usual incumbent Stephen Carr. But on the debit side, there are some questionable selections. James Milner, a rarity in retaining his fitness all season, must be a contender for the club's Player of the Year award. However, he was left an unused substitute in Alkmaar. His eventual restoration to the team brought four points from two games, against Sheffield United and Newcastle. Then there is Emre, seemingly bound for the exit. Roeder's botched attempt to brush allegations of racism against the Turk under the carpet failed and his Newcastle career may end on the bench. Albert Luque has neither been offloaded nor involved, another reason why Newcastle's outlay is not reflected on the pitch. Emre looks to be headed for the exit.And while Owen has been unavailable all season, they have a mere 34 goals in 32 Premiership games. Exclude Martins, and it is a miserable return. Nor do some of the performances rank as an improvement: the capitulation at Charlton angered Neil Warnock (for its impact on the relegation battle) as well as Roeder. Losing at home to Manchester City was as bad. It means Roeder's is a record that is open to interpretation. To what extent do the mitigating factors explain the underachievement? How much is the culture of the club the problem? Roeder has claimed failure is 'stitched into the badge' at Newcastle. That doesn't necessarily make him the man to unstitch it, however. There are those who believe Alan Shearer's outstanding finishing and execrable punditry qualify him to manage Newcastle, and a suspicion that Freddy Shepherd is among that number. There is also the probability that, given Shearer's sabbatical on television and Shepherd's description of Roeder as 'an honorary Geordie', that the Newcastle manager will retain his post for the start of next season. But it is little wonder that Glenn Roeder appears uneasy. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=420464&root=england&cc=3888 what a load of shite that is. A fit owen and i mean fit, would guarantee us 20 goals a season 7 goals in 12 appearences proves this. He also fails to mention the fact that we also lost Ameobi to a long term injury who has scored 1 in 2 under GR. Add the fact that we also missed out on Dyer for the first half of the season and also had only one fit striker during this time 34 golas in 32 doesn't look to bad to me. It's just our defence letting us down yet again, i.e leading against Bolton and Everton at St James and letting our lead slips our prime examples of us throwing away points. Firstly, Dyer actually contributes very little. Secondly, Owen has never scored 20 league goals, so thats far from guaranteed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nufc 4 life Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Good Article written by Norman Hubbard-ESPN Given his visible unease when confronted by a microphone or a camera, Glenn Roeder cannot be described as being at ease in the spotlight Even by his own standards, however, the Newcastle manager has been a little prickly recently. Once a centre-back, he has been on the defensive on a wide range of topics. Some - such as Michael Owen's comeback date - are inexplicable; thus far, it is hard to find fault with Roeder's management of an injured player. But others reflect badly upon Roeder. Damien Duff's rumoured move to Sunderland brought the implication that the winger has failed at Newcastle, and Roeder was the manager who authorised a £5 million fee, aided by Newcastle's typical largesse when paying wages. Criticism of Scott Parker, appointed captain by Roeder, may have been viewed as a barely-veiled dig at the manager himself. Yet the sphere where there is greatest scope for censure is in the results, an area where Roeder's responsibility is clear. Newcastle may now be found in the upper half of the Premiership, but they have only just managed to extract themselves from a relegation battle, albeit one that Roeder never admitted they were a part of. Reaching the last 16 of the UEFA Cup, where elimination is often harder to secure than progress, hardly qualifies as a triumph. Newcastle's European campaign may have occupied eight months and involved opponents from nine nations, yet it merely served as a lengthy distraction. Moreover, defeat to AZ Alkmaar, a team with a fraction of the budget of their own, highlighted two perennial weaknesses: outside the elite of the big four, Newcastle's spending power may be matched only by Tottenham - though, given the weekly remuneration of Duff and Parker, the Magpies can be more generous than the Londoners; and the defence. Were there a direct correlation between expenditure and achievement, therefore, Newcastle, and not Bolton Wanderers, whose manager Sam Allardyce was overlooked when Roeder was appointed, would occupy fifth place. Injuries and the debilitating effect of an interminable number of UEFA Cup games can only explain so much (how much effort is required to overcome Levadia Tallinn?). Yet Newcastle, despite a historical preference for cavalier football, are a team with two Premiership goals in as many months. Another long-time trend is for dubious defending. Their failure to reach the last eight of the UEFA Cup can be attributed to it. Within 40 minutes of the match at St James' Park, Newcastle had a 4-1 advantage. Conceding once in the second half there and twice in Alkmaar the following week ended their participation. A scapegoat was immediately identified: Titus Bramble has not been spotted since. Yet, nearing the end of a five-year contract, does it qualify as news that Bramble is error-prone? It was a second competition Newcastle departed reflecting on the failure of their back four. The 5-1 FA Cup defeat to Birmingham City qualifies as a humiliation. It came during the transfer window. Roeder's adherents argue he was reluctant to sign substandard players in January, yet recruits need not have been exceptional to improve the Newcastle rearguard. In any case, a more serious omission was neglecting to bolster his defence last summer. Since Jonathan Woodgate joined Real Madrid in 2004, Newcastle have only paid a fee for one central defender, and Jean-Alain Boumsong appears to have deterred them from buying others, although quiet American Oguchi Onyewu was borrowed. Instead, marquee players, such as Duff and the sporadically brilliant Obafemi Martins, have been brought in. With 17 goals, recruiting the Nigerian, though prone to utterly insipid performances, ranks among Roeder's achievements. So does the revitalisation of Nicky Butt and the continuing development of Steven Taylor. Antoine Sibierski, unwanted at Manchester City, can be classified as a qualified success as a short-term signing while, as a makeshift right-back, Nolberto Solano has proved more popular than usual incumbent Stephen Carr. But on the debit side, there are some questionable selections. James Milner, a rarity in retaining his fitness all season, must be a contender for the club's Player of the Year award. However, he was left an unused substitute in Alkmaar. His eventual restoration to the team brought four points from two games, against Sheffield United and Newcastle. Then there is Emre, seemingly bound for the exit. Roeder's botched attempt to brush allegations of racism against the Turk under the carpet failed and his Newcastle career may end on the bench. Albert Luque has neither been offloaded nor involved, another reason why Newcastle's outlay is not reflected on the pitch. Emre looks to be headed for the exit.And while Owen has been unavailable all season, they have a mere 34 goals in 32 Premiership games. Exclude Martins, and it is a miserable return. Nor do some of the performances rank as an improvement: the capitulation at Charlton angered Neil Warnock (for its impact on the relegation battle) as well as Roeder. Losing at home to Manchester City was as bad. It means Roeder's is a record that is open to interpretation. To what extent do the mitigating factors explain the underachievement? How much is the culture of the club the problem? Roeder has claimed failure is 'stitched into the badge' at Newcastle. That doesn't necessarily make him the man to unstitch it, however. There are those who believe Alan Shearer's outstanding finishing and execrable punditry qualify him to manage Newcastle, and a suspicion that Freddy Shepherd is among that number. There is also the probability that, given Shearer's sabbatical on television and Shepherd's description of Roeder as 'an honorary Geordie', that the Newcastle manager will retain his post for the start of next season. But it is little wonder that Glenn Roeder appears uneasy. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=420464&root=england&cc=3888 what a load of s**** that is. A fit owen and i mean fit, would guarantee us 20 goals a season 7 goals in 12 appearences proves this. He also fails to mention the fact that we also lost Ameobi to a long term injury who has scored 1 in 2 under GR. Add the fact that we also missed out on Dyer for the first half of the season and also had only one fit striker during this time 34 golas in 32 doesn't look to bad to me. It's just our defence letting us down yet again, i.e leading against Bolton and Everton at St James and letting our lead slips our prime examples of us throwing away points. Firstly, Dyer actually contributes very little. Secondly, Owen has never scored 20 league goals, so thats far from guaranteed. i wasn't talking just about league goals and having dyer back has contributed 6 in 24 games and sibierski who we only had after january has scored 8 in 23. owen stats 2005–06 11 7 2003–04 38 19 2002–03 54 28 2001–02 43 28 2000–01 46 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 i wasn't talking just about league goals and having dyer back has contributed 6 in 24 games and sibierski who we only had after january has scored 8 in 23. owen stats 2005–06 11 7 2003–04 38 19 2002–03 54 28 2001–02 43 28 2000–01 46 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Good Article written by Norman Hubbard-ESPN Given his visible unease when confronted by a microphone or a camera, Glenn Roeder cannot be described as being at ease in the spotlight Even by his own standards, however, the Newcastle manager has been a little prickly recently. Once a centre-back, he has been on the defensive on a wide range of topics. Some - such as Michael Owen's comeback date - are inexplicable; thus far, it is hard to find fault with Roeder's management of an injured player. But others reflect badly upon Roeder. Damien Duff's rumoured move to Sunderland brought the implication that the winger has failed at Newcastle, and Roeder was the manager who authorised a £5 million fee, aided by Newcastle's typical largesse when paying wages. Criticism of Scott Parker, appointed captain by Roeder, may have been viewed as a barely-veiled dig at the manager himself. Yet the sphere where there is greatest scope for censure is in the results, an area where Roeder's responsibility is clear. Newcastle may now be found in the upper half of the Premiership, but they have only just managed to extract themselves from a relegation battle, albeit one that Roeder never admitted they were a part of. Reaching the last 16 of the UEFA Cup, where elimination is often harder to secure than progress, hardly qualifies as a triumph. Newcastle's European campaign may have occupied eight months and involved opponents from nine nations, yet it merely served as a lengthy distraction. Moreover, defeat to AZ Alkmaar, a team with a fraction of the budget of their own, highlighted two perennial weaknesses: outside the elite of the big four, Newcastle's spending power may be matched only by Tottenham - though, given the weekly remuneration of Duff and Parker, the Magpies can be more generous than the Londoners; and the defence. Were there a direct correlation between expenditure and achievement, therefore, Newcastle, and not Bolton Wanderers, whose manager Sam Allardyce was overlooked when Roeder was appointed, would occupy fifth place. Injuries and the debilitating effect of an interminable number of UEFA Cup games can only explain so much (how much effort is required to overcome Levadia Tallinn?). Yet Newcastle, despite a historical preference for cavalier football, are a team with two Premiership goals in as many months. Another long-time trend is for dubious defending. Their failure to reach the last eight of the UEFA Cup can be attributed to it. Within 40 minutes of the match at St James' Park, Newcastle had a 4-1 advantage. Conceding once in the second half there and twice in Alkmaar the following week ended their participation. A scapegoat was immediately identified: Titus Bramble has not been spotted since. Yet, nearing the end of a five-year contract, does it qualify as news that Bramble is error-prone? It was a second competition Newcastle departed reflecting on the failure of their back four. The 5-1 FA Cup defeat to Birmingham City qualifies as a humiliation. It came during the transfer window. Roeder's adherents argue he was reluctant to sign substandard players in January, yet recruits need not have been exceptional to improve the Newcastle rearguard. In any case, a more serious omission was neglecting to bolster his defence last summer. Since Jonathan Woodgate joined Real Madrid in 2004, Newcastle have only paid a fee for one central defender, and Jean-Alain Boumsong appears to have deterred them from buying others, although quiet American Oguchi Onyewu was borrowed. Instead, marquee players, such as Duff and the sporadically brilliant Obafemi Martins, have been brought in. With 17 goals, recruiting the Nigerian, though prone to utterly insipid performances, ranks among Roeder's achievements. So does the revitalisation of Nicky Butt and the continuing development of Steven Taylor. Antoine Sibierski, unwanted at Manchester City, can be classified as a qualified success as a short-term signing while, as a makeshift right-back, Nolberto Solano has proved more popular than usual incumbent Stephen Carr. But on the debit side, there are some questionable selections. James Milner, a rarity in retaining his fitness all season, must be a contender for the club's Player of the Year award. However, he was left an unused substitute in Alkmaar. His eventual restoration to the team brought four points from two games, against Sheffield United and Newcastle. Then there is Emre, seemingly bound for the exit. Roeder's botched attempt to brush allegations of racism against the Turk under the carpet failed and his Newcastle career may end on the bench. Albert Luque has neither been offloaded nor involved, another reason why Newcastle's outlay is not reflected on the pitch. Emre looks to be headed for the exit.And while Owen has been unavailable all season, they have a mere 34 goals in 32 Premiership games. Exclude Martins, and it is a miserable return. Nor do some of the performances rank as an improvement: the capitulation at Charlton angered Neil Warnock (for its impact on the relegation battle) as well as Roeder. Losing at home to Manchester City was as bad. It means Roeder's is a record that is open to interpretation. To what extent do the mitigating factors explain the underachievement? How much is the culture of the club the problem? Roeder has claimed failure is 'stitched into the badge' at Newcastle. That doesn't necessarily make him the man to unstitch it, however. There are those who believe Alan Shearer's outstanding finishing and execrable punditry qualify him to manage Newcastle, and a suspicion that Freddy Shepherd is among that number. There is also the probability that, given Shearer's sabbatical on television and Shepherd's description of Roeder as 'an honorary Geordie', that the Newcastle manager will retain his post for the start of next season. But it is little wonder that Glenn Roeder appears uneasy. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=420464&root=england&cc=3888 what a load of s**** that is. A fit owen and i mean fit, would guarantee us 20 goals a season 7 goals in 12 appearences proves this. He also fails to mention the fact that we also lost Ameobi to a long term injury who has scored 1 in 2 under GR. Add the fact that we also missed out on Dyer for the first half of the season and also had only one fit striker during this time 34 golas in 32 doesn't look to bad to me. It's just our defence letting us down yet again, i.e leading against Bolton and Everton at St James and letting our lead slips our prime examples of us throwing away points. Firstly, Dyer actually contributes very little. Secondly, Owen has never scored 20 league goals, so thats far from guaranteed. i wasn't talking just about league goals and having dyer back has contributed 6 in 24 games and sibierski who we only had after january has scored 8 in 23. owen stats 200506 11 7 200304 38 19 200203 54 28 200102 43 28 200001 46 24 League goals is the only comparitor worth talking about, and the reason you want strikers. 4 in 18 from Dyer is fuck all next to proper footballers. He's nowhere near worth what we pay him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
koven Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 What a crap article. He has some good points but it's too biased against the team. Talks about some crap results (which is fair enough), yet neglects to mention both spurs games, Man U at home, Liverpool at home, both Arsenal games, etc, etc, which were all good games. We all agree we've been shit in a lot of games but at least provide some balance. And exclude Martins? WTF why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 Good Article written by Norman Hubbard-ESPN Given his visible unease when confronted by a microphone or a camera, Glenn Roeder cannot be described as being at ease in the spotlight Even by his own standards, however, the Newcastle manager has been a little prickly recently. Once a centre-back, he has been on the defensive on a wide range of topics. Some - such as Michael Owen's comeback date - are inexplicable; thus far, it is hard to find fault with Roeder's management of an injured player. But others reflect badly upon Roeder. Damien Duff's rumoured move to Sunderland brought the implication that the winger has failed at Newcastle, and Roeder was the manager who authorised a £5 million fee, aided by Newcastle's typical largesse when paying wages. Criticism of Scott Parker, appointed captain by Roeder, may have been viewed as a barely-veiled dig at the manager himself. Yet the sphere where there is greatest scope for censure is in the results, an area where Roeder's responsibility is clear. Newcastle may now be found in the upper half of the Premiership, but they have only just managed to extract themselves from a relegation battle, albeit one that Roeder never admitted they were a part of. Reaching the last 16 of the UEFA Cup, where elimination is often harder to secure than progress, hardly qualifies as a triumph. Newcastle's European campaign may have occupied eight months and involved opponents from nine nations, yet it merely served as a lengthy distraction. Moreover, defeat to AZ Alkmaar, a team with a fraction of the budget of their own, highlighted two perennial weaknesses: outside the elite of the big four, Newcastle's spending power may be matched only by Tottenham - though, given the weekly remuneration of Duff and Parker, the Magpies can be more generous than the Londoners; and the defence. Were there a direct correlation between expenditure and achievement, therefore, Newcastle, and not Bolton Wanderers, whose manager Sam Allardyce was overlooked when Roeder was appointed, would occupy fifth place. Injuries and the debilitating effect of an interminable number of UEFA Cup games can only explain so much (how much effort is required to overcome Levadia Tallinn?). Yet Newcastle, despite a historical preference for cavalier football, are a team with two Premiership goals in as many months. Another long-time trend is for dubious defending. Their failure to reach the last eight of the UEFA Cup can be attributed to it. Within 40 minutes of the match at St James' Park, Newcastle had a 4-1 advantage. Conceding once in the second half there and twice in Alkmaar the following week ended their participation. A scapegoat was immediately identified: Titus Bramble has not been spotted since. Yet, nearing the end of a five-year contract, does it qualify as news that Bramble is error-prone? It was a second competition Newcastle departed reflecting on the failure of their back four. The 5-1 FA Cup defeat to Birmingham City qualifies as a humiliation. It came during the transfer window. Roeder's adherents argue he was reluctant to sign substandard players in January, yet recruits need not have been exceptional to improve the Newcastle rearguard. In any case, a more serious omission was neglecting to bolster his defence last summer. Since Jonathan Woodgate joined Real Madrid in 2004, Newcastle have only paid a fee for one central defender, and Jean-Alain Boumsong appears to have deterred them from buying others, although quiet American Oguchi Onyewu was borrowed. Instead, marquee players, such as Duff and the sporadically brilliant Obafemi Martins, have been brought in. With 17 goals, recruiting the Nigerian, though prone to utterly insipid performances, ranks among Roeder's achievements. So does the revitalisation of Nicky Butt and the continuing development of Steven Taylor. Antoine Sibierski, unwanted at Manchester City, can be classified as a qualified success as a short-term signing while, as a makeshift right-back, Nolberto Solano has proved more popular than usual incumbent Stephen Carr. But on the debit side, there are some questionable selections. James Milner, a rarity in retaining his fitness all season, must be a contender for the club's Player of the Year award. However, he was left an unused substitute in Alkmaar. His eventual restoration to the team brought four points from two games, against Sheffield United and Newcastle. Then there is Emre, seemingly bound for the exit. Roeder's botched attempt to brush allegations of racism against the Turk under the carpet failed and his Newcastle career may end on the bench. Albert Luque has neither been offloaded nor involved, another reason why Newcastle's outlay is not reflected on the pitch. Emre looks to be headed for the exit.And while Owen has been unavailable all season, they have a mere 34 goals in 32 Premiership games. Exclude Martins, and it is a miserable return. Nor do some of the performances rank as an improvement: the capitulation at Charlton angered Neil Warnock (for its impact on the relegation battle) as well as Roeder. Losing at home to Manchester City was as bad. It means Roeder's is a record that is open to interpretation. To what extent do the mitigating factors explain the underachievement? How much is the culture of the club the problem? Roeder has claimed failure is 'stitched into the badge' at Newcastle. That doesn't necessarily make him the man to unstitch it, however. There are those who believe Alan Shearer's outstanding finishing and execrable punditry qualify him to manage Newcastle, and a suspicion that Freddy Shepherd is among that number. There is also the probability that, given Shearer's sabbatical on television and Shepherd's description of Roeder as 'an honorary Geordie', that the Newcastle manager will retain his post for the start of next season. But it is little wonder that Glenn Roeder appears uneasy. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=420464&root=england&cc=3888 I didn`t realise we played ourselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 If you take in the fact that it's written for a general football site for general fans who may not be as aware of what's happening at St James' Park then it's a fairly decent article. But as andynufc84 says, for us as Toon fans it doesn't tell us anything we don't know (Roeder's media efforts have become increasingly defensive, we haven't gotten value for money in the transfer market, our defenders are of insufficient quality, Roeder's position is open for question - we're all painfully aware of these facts) And koven, I don't know what you think makes it biased - I thought it was pretty generous to Roeder really. They were savage on West Ham not long ago, and Roeder deserves to be savaged too. Was very generous in describing his media efforts as "uneasy" and "prickly" when several other, less flattering adjectives could (should?) have been applied... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 If we really want him out then this is a good article. Not the article itself but the fact that non-NUFC people are picking up on it. Things usually only happen when neutrals start writing about how crap he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 good article in parts. Hes right about martins hes very inconsistent. roeder is a blot on the nufc landscape ....only here as a ffs puppet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I just think it's really badly written. Is this bloke a proper journalist? There might be hope for HTT after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 good article in parts. Hes right about martins hes very inconsistent. roeder is a blot on the nufc landscape ....only here as a ffs puppet. very true. But the best player since Pele if you listen to the amount of sucking-off that goes on on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 good article in parts. Hes right about martins hes very inconsistent. roeder is a blot on the nufc landscape ....only here as a ffs puppet. very true. But the best player since Pele if you listen to the amount of sucking-off that goes on on here. There are plenty of kneejerks, but I'd say the majority think he's a good / very good player, but with loads to improve on. There we go look - a very good player. I don't think so. He's prven to be inconsistent, with flashes of good play, and also glimpses of shocking decision-making. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 good article in parts. Hes right about martins hes very inconsistent. roeder is a blot on the nufc landscape ....only here as a ffs puppet. very true. But the best player since Pele if you listen to the amount of sucking-off that goes on on here. There are plenty of kneejerks, but I'd say the majority think he's a good / very good player, but with loads to improve on. There we go look - a very good player. I don't think so. He's prven to be inconsistent, with flashes of good play, and also glimpses of shocking decision-making. Aye, Martins doesn't even fall into the "good" category yet for me. He's hovering somewhere around decent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Monkey Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 good article in parts. Hes right about martins hes very inconsistent. roeder is a blot on the nufc landscape ....only here as a ffs puppet. very true. But the best player since Pele if you listen to the amount of sucking-off that goes on on here. There are plenty of kneejerks, but I'd say the majority think he's a good / very good player, but with loads to improve on. There we go look - a very good player. I don't think so. He's prven to be inconsistent, with flashes of good play, and also glimpses of shocking decision-making. Aye, Martins doesn't even fall into the "good" category yet for me. He's hovering somewhere around decent. Overall, i'd agree. He might well end up being a good/very good premiership striker, but he isn't one yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I know it's starting to become a cliche, but he's a good goalscorer but a pretty fucking poor footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Invicta_Toon Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I know it's starting to become a cliche, but he's a good goalscorer but a pretty fucking poor footballer. just like when you ignore the league table, MON and Coleman are better managers than Roeder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I know it's starting to become a cliche, but he's a good goalscorer but a pretty fucking poor footballer. just like when you ignore the league table, MON and Coleman are better managers than Roeder I have no idea what that means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I know it's starting to become a cliche, but he's a good goalscorer but a pretty fucking poor footballer. just like when you ignore the league table, MON and Coleman are better managers than Roeder Yeah, just like that, but at the same time totally and utterly different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Invicta_Toon Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I know it's starting to become a cliche, but he's a good goalscorer but a pretty fucking poor footballer. just like when you ignore the league table, MON and Coleman are better managers than Roeder Yeah, just like that, but at the same time totally and utterly different. well how else do you rate strikers and managers? I think the similarity is fucking obvious to anyone but a moron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 How is that a good article btw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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