Rob W

see MA has pulled his plans to get a £ 72 mm bonus in shares

he might have to take it in cash.......................

"Hosted by Michael Owen"

and Robbie Savage on the radio.......................

"A bill in excess of £30m is also pending for their new training ground."

and Pele practiced with a tin can on some rubbish heap

anyone else wonder if these training grounds are worth while?

bloody marvelous to watch

they'd be opening themselves up to a  mass of litigation - anyone being knocked over in a standing section would sue these days

TBH all managers turn out to be useless and get fired - except that Scots b******

lots of stats show there is an APPARENT bounce after replacing the manager  - for about 5 games

what it really is that  club fires the manager after a worse than average run - they then do better than average

but the same thing would happen if he'd stayed

42 years I've waited for today................  FANTASTIC

the one where Wyn Davies has Jimmy Montgomery horizontal on his hip at the Gallowgate end

these days he'd be banned for a year for hitting a 'keeper like that

two weeks ago I had to get a Garuda flight from Bali to Jakarta - and the damn thing had a bloody great Liverpool crest on the front and "you'll never walk alone" down the side

I felt ill........................ 

aye, well

so much wasted time in dreadful, s***holes scattered across England

makes me feel old.... 

the culture in the UK is, and always has been, non-stop running, get rid of the ball as fast as you can anywhere

Until we can stop that we ain't going anywhere internationally

god help us.......

Pele also benefited for the fact hat his talents went on show just as the world was able to watch TV - not necessarily live, or in colour, but almost all his big games went round the world

Same as Ali really....................

whoever gets it will find its a dog - it wasn't designed as a football stadium

after a few years they'll try and remove the running track and then spend years fighting the athletics mafia bleating on about "our legacy"

we're getting rid of a lot of old expensive players, a lot of dross as well

the idea of rebuilding around 20-25 year olds makes a lot of sense

I think on a goals per game basis it was Cole - who was never that loved

But the rest of them on that list were all great strikers

ttp://www.deloitte.com/view/en_GB/uk/industries/sportsbusinessgroup/sports/football/index.htm for downloads

Still crazy out there

Europe’s premier leagues

• Despite significant economic headwinds, the European football market grew by 4% to €16.3 billion in 2009/10.

The ‘big five’ leagues’ revenues grew by 5% to €8.4 billion, with all five leagues demonstrating revenue growth. Broadcasting revenue was the main driver of

growth (up 8%) and now stands at over €4 billion.

• The Premier League increased its revenue to almost €2.5 billion in 2009/10. The gap to the second highest revenue generating league, the Bundesliga, now

exceeds €800m.

• The Bundesliga’s revenue grew 6% to €1,664m, driven by an impressive increase in commercial revenues, and the largest average attendance (42,700) in European football.

• La Liga revenues grew by 8% to €1,622m, the highest absolute and relative growth of any of the ‘big five’ leagues. Much of the growth was driven by Real

Madrid and Barcelona (whose collective revenues increased by €69m).

• Serie A’s revenues increased by 3% to €1,532m leaving it in fourth place of the ‘big five’ leagues, ahead of Ligue 1 whose clubs’ revenues grew by 2%

to reach €1,072m. UEFA’s decision to hold Euro 2016 in France provides a significant opportunity for French clubs to refurbish stadia to increase attendances and

revenue. Whilst Italy lost out, it still needs to invest to improve its outdated stadia.

• Football’s greatest business challenge remains cost control, with the ‘big five’ leagues’ wages increasing by over €400m (8%) to exceed €5.5 billion in 2009/10. In

Italy and France wages growth exceeded the absolute level of revenue growth, while in England and Germany revenue and wages both grew by similar amounts.

In Spain aggregate wages excluding Barcelona and Real Madrid fell and the overall wages/revenue ratio of 60% represented a ten year low.

• The Premier League and the Bundesliga were the only ‘big five’ leagues to achieve operating profits in 2009/10, with the Bundesliga (€138m) remaining ahead of the

Premier League (£83m (€101m)). Losses in Ligue 1 increased to €102m and while Serie A clubs marginally reduced their losses these still exceeded €100m.

• Outside of the ‘big five’ countries, The Netherlands (€420m), Turkey (€378m) and Russia (€368m) have the largest revenue generating leagues. Commercial

revenue is typically the most lucrative area for non ‘big five’ leagues.

• For many years it has been evident that the temptation to invest in playing talent in search of improved performance on the pitch has been outweighing the

need to balance budgets. Intervention, being led by UEFA on a pan-European basis, provides the opportunity to deliver a long awaited improvement in football’s ability to more sustainably control its costs.

also

Matchday revenues fell by 7% in 2009/10, primarily due to the change in mix of clubs, in particular the relegation of Newcastle United, and a £22m reduction

in matchday revenues from the clubs which competed in the UEFA Champions League, all of whom exited the competition earlier than in the previous season.

I'm not a big fan of Fulham but they do have devoted support - hanging in watching them when you have Chelski literally up the road shows loyalty

Looking back over 50 years of watching they are up there in the top 10 - that's all you can say

Real Madrid, Liverpool and all the other teams mentioned were best of their time - it's not possible to rank them really

if you want to know what is wrong with football today look at Joorabchian

Was going to post mine but my grandad's is a little better......

 

 

--------------------------Yashin----------------------------

 

Carlos Alberto----Moore-------Beckenbaur------Breitner-----

 

----------------------------Matthaus---------------------------------

 

------Zico----------------Maradona-------------------Cruyff-------

 

---------------------Pele--------------Muller--------------------------

That'll do for me - maybe with Banks in goal

I like the idea of Pele playing off Der Bomber

Tooj - good point he reminds me  a lot of Di Stefano - it's that ability to make tiem slow down around you that makes a truly great player - they jsut never get surprised or rushed

Undoubtedly one of the greats - but he plays with some great players as well

it's his intelligence that impresses me - he keeps the opposition totally unbalanced

the question is - how would you set up a team to beat Barcelone?