Howaythelads

I agree. Me too. Perhaps a couple of people ~10,000 miles away wanted Keegan to be reappointed and Ian has extrapolated that to mean the entire supporter base of Newcastle United.

Grow up, man.

Is Mike Ashley steering Newcastle United in the right direction? A simple yes or no will do. There is more to it, a simple yes/no is sufficient only for simpletons. Ashley did ok in January in one area of running a football club, he did shite for the previous 2 1/2 years in every aspect of running a football club, so to anyone who is not a simpleton it's clear he has a fair way to go and a lot to prove.

ffs nobody is talking about winning the title. By the way, relegation lost what promotion is worth, which is why I've no time for those who heap praise on Ashley for supposedly putting in £20mill.

Fred would do better dont ya think? Only joking man, but why so negative when we dont know the details yet? Never heard of them.

If you don't like it, don't read it.

You asked the question and I answered it, if you don't like the answer I'm afraid it's tough. No you didn’t. You avoided it and when pushed started waffling on about the previous ownership, again. He doesn't know what he's on about, man. It's always been that way.

What a crock of simplistic rubbish. If you had said " some will never forgive Shepherd and will blame him for everything forever " you'd be on the right lines. Ashley could well turn it around, he just hasn't done so yet. He's done a crap job so far, simple as that. When/if he does turn it around and has done a good job I will admit it, which is a damn sight more than others manage regarding the efforts of the previous Board. I don't hate Ashley at all. I think he's an inept tosser who got lucky in business with his "blueprint" of cheap sports goods. Yeah whatever. Suggestion: Reply to what is posted rather than to stuff you've made up.

What a crock of simplistic rubbish. If you had said " some will never forgive Shepherd and will blame him for everything forever " you'd be on the right lines. Ashley could well turn it around, he just hasn't done so yet. He's done a crap job so far, simple as that. When/if he does turn it around and has done a good job I will admit it, which is a damn sight more than others manage regarding the efforts of the previous Board. I don't hate Ashley at all. I think he's an inept tosser who got lucky in business with his "blueprint" of cheap sports goods.

Apparently MDS constantly reinvent themselves. Is this the best Ashley can do? It seems everything about the club is small-time with this joker calling the shots. Nobody of any stature wants to deal with him. I wonder why....?

I think it's ambition you're looking for, there's nowt wrong with setting your sights high so long as you don't lose sight of the fact it's not possible to get there overnight. Setting your ambitions too low, as you appear to be doing, is just as bad as expecting a miracle that we win the title.

Presumably by being the manager of us when finishing somewhere between 18th and 20th in the Premier League would be my guess. Some of your interjections really are rather pointless would be my guess. Dont expect another as i dont want to make you go crying to mods again. You arent worth it at all tbh

Presumably by being the manager of us when finishing somewhere between 18th and 20th in the Premier League would be my guess. Some of your interjections really are rather pointless would be my guess.

The price for the club was £100m in the summer, and this would have been for a debt free club, apart from the Barclays overdraft facility. THere would have been no money owed to Ashley. The price dropped to £80m at the last minute, but nobody had the cash. I thought everyone had accepted this? THe idea that Ashley was trying to sell the club for £100m and after the sale the new owner would still owe Ashley £100m is nonsense. And your source for this is?

This is likely to be as close to the truth as it gets. Nobody wants to deal with the man, he's just unrealistic. Simple as that.

Nope. I've been busy and so was away from the forum for quite awhile, imagine my surprise at your "almost mandiarse like" position when I was able to return?

Weve been promoted to premiership have we? weve spent on class centre forwards? weve replaced ryan taylor and nicky butt in midfield? weve survived the first season post championship? f*** me you are THE over-expectand geordie fan myth played out by the media. You fuckin stupid c***. WE WILL BE UP FOR SALE THE DAY WE ARE PROMOTED Please give me a season of mediocrity before you piss me off again Everyone seems to know how it should be done, for some reason no one will put their money where their mouth is and JUST DO IT. Why are all the prospective buyers of Newcastle weighing their pennies and trying to buy the club at a stupidly low price and all their dithering will just allow Ashley to emerge the winner if promotion is achieved? I don't imagine many are comfortable dealing with the t***. Or the £150m of debt, which in the current market gives NUFC a net value of next to nothing. The debt has been there all along. If the interested parties wanted a a massive club capable of generating huge future profits without any debt then this just proves they weren't prepared to commit any investment risk at all. Could have sworn some people mentioned last week that one of Ashley's greatest achievements was that the club now has no debt. we only have as much debt as the owner wants to claw back (and if last summers asking price were true he will take a fair old loss) the difference isn't the debt anyway, as many have said all along, it's the way it is structured . far betteroff owe the money to the owner as he is unlikely to call it in (gibson,lerner,abramovich) than owe it to financial institutions and the taxman who will call it in (cardiff,portsmouth,leeds etc) So you agree there is a debt after all. Those know-nowt morons who said there wasn't. Anyway, so we can strike clearing the club debt off the list of your hero's achievements. What's left.....? if he had sold up for 80mill it could be argued he'd wrote off the debt. "your hero"....doesn't become you htl. Fawning over this cretin doesn't become you either, Madras. I don't expect anything sensible from mandiarse but I really thought you had more sense, tbh. how am i fawing over him by recognising the s*** position we were in when he took over. ashley didn't help a great deal, his handling of kinnear etc was the biggestsingle mistake he made that caused our relegation from his side but i also think had he not took over allardyce would have took us down and we'd have been in even bigger s****. If that's your opinion, fair enough. Just stop telling me how good a job Ashley is doing because he's doing s****. it's a deal...........on one condition. you stop telling me how good fred and co had been doing in their last few years....cos they were doing shit while lining their pockets. That's easily done, as I hadn't been doing it anyway.

Weve been promoted to premiership have we? weve spent on class centre forwards? weve replaced ryan taylor and nicky butt in midfield? weve survived the first season post championship? f*** me you are THE over-expectand geordie fan myth played out by the media. You fuckin stupid c***. WE WILL BE UP FOR SALE THE DAY WE ARE PROMOTED Please give me a season of mediocrity before you piss me off again Everyone seems to know how it should be done, for some reason no one will put their money where their mouth is and JUST DO IT. Why are all the prospective buyers of Newcastle weighing their pennies and trying to buy the club at a stupidly low price and all their dithering will just allow Ashley to emerge the winner if promotion is achieved? I don't imagine many are comfortable dealing with the t***. Or the £150m of debt, which in the current market gives NUFC a net value of next to nothing. The debt has been there all along. If the interested parties wanted a a massive club capable of generating huge future profits without any debt then this just proves they weren't prepared to commit any investment risk at all. Could have sworn some people mentioned last week that one of Ashley's greatest achievements was that the club now has no debt. we only have as much debt as the owner wants to claw back (and if last summers asking price were true he will take a fair old loss) the difference isn't the debt anyway, as many have said all along, it's the way it is structured . far betteroff owe the money to the owner as he is unlikely to call it in (gibson,lerner,abramovich) than owe it to financial institutions and the taxman who will call it in (cardiff,portsmouth,leeds etc) So you agree there is a debt after all. Those know-nowt morons who said there wasn't. Anyway, so we can strike clearing the club debt off the list of your hero's achievements. What's left.....? if he had sold up for 80mill it could be argued he'd wrote off the debt. "your hero"....doesn't become you htl. Whereas referring to anyone bright enough to spot the difference between being being hock to a bank, and an owner supporting his own business, as a "know-nowt moron" is completely par for the course. It's been put across by some as a positive for Ashley that the club has no debt. They are either liars or know-nowts. You choose. I don't particularly give a shite because debt is debt is debt.

Weve been promoted to premiership have we? weve spent on class centre forwards? weve replaced ryan taylor and nicky butt in midfield? weve survived the first season post championship? f*** me you are THE over-expectand geordie fan myth played out by the media. You fuckin stupid c***. WE WILL BE UP FOR SALE THE DAY WE ARE PROMOTED Please give me a season of mediocrity before you piss me off again Everyone seems to know how it should be done, for some reason no one will put their money where their mouth is and JUST DO IT. Why are all the prospective buyers of Newcastle weighing their pennies and trying to buy the club at a stupidly low price and all their dithering will just allow Ashley to emerge the winner if promotion is achieved? I don't imagine many are comfortable dealing with the t***. Or the £150m of debt, which in the current market gives NUFC a net value of next to nothing. The debt has been there all along. If the interested parties wanted a a massive club capable of generating huge future profits without any debt then this just proves they weren't prepared to commit any investment risk at all. Could have sworn some people mentioned last week that one of Ashley's greatest achievements was that the club now has no debt. we only have as much debt as the owner wants to claw back (and if last summers asking price were true he will take a fair old loss) the difference isn't the debt anyway, as many have said all along, it's the way it is structured . far betteroff owe the money to the owner as he is unlikely to call it in (gibson,lerner,abramovich) than owe it to financial institutions and the taxman who will call it in (cardiff,portsmouth,leeds etc) So you agree there is a debt after all. Those know-nowt morons who said there wasn't. Anyway, so we can strike clearing the club debt off the list of your hero's achievements. What's left.....? if he had sold up for 80mill it could be argued he'd wrote off the debt. "your hero"....doesn't become you htl. Fawning over this cretin doesn't become you either, Madras. I don't expect anything sensible from mandiarse but I really thought you had more sense, tbh. how am i fawing over him by recognising the shit position we were in when he took over. ashley didn't help a great deal, his handling of kinnear etc was the biggestsingle mistake he made that caused our relegation from his side but i also think had he not took over allardyce would have took us down and we'd have been in even bigger shite. If that's your opinion, fair enough. Just stop telling me how good a job Ashley is doing because he's doing shite.

Weve been promoted to premiership have we? weve spent on class centre forwards? weve replaced ryan taylor and nicky butt in midfield? weve survived the first season post championship? f*** me you are THE over-expectand geordie fan myth played out by the media. You fuckin stupid c***. WE WILL BE UP FOR SALE THE DAY WE ARE PROMOTED Please give me a season of mediocrity before you piss me off again Everyone seems to know how it should be done, for some reason no one will put their money where their mouth is and JUST DO IT. Why are all the prospective buyers of Newcastle weighing their pennies and trying to buy the club at a stupidly low price and all their dithering will just allow Ashley to emerge the winner if promotion is achieved? I don't imagine many are comfortable dealing with the t***. Or the £150m of debt, which in the current market gives NUFC a net value of next to nothing. The debt has been there all along. If the interested parties wanted a a massive club capable of generating huge future profits without any debt then this just proves they weren't prepared to commit any investment risk at all. Could have sworn some people mentioned last week that one of Ashley's greatest achievements was that the club now has no debt. we only have as much debt as the owner wants to claw back (and if last summers asking price were true he will take a fair old loss) the difference isn't the debt anyway, as many have said all along, it's the way it is structured . far betteroff owe the money to the owner as he is unlikely to call it in (gibson,lerner,abramovich) than owe it to financial institutions and the taxman who will call it in (cardiff,portsmouth,leeds etc) So you agree there is a debt after all. Those know-nowt morons who said there wasn't. Anyway, so we can strike clearing the club debt off the list of your hero's achievements. What's left.....? if he had sold up for 80mill it could be argued he'd wrote off the debt. "your hero"....doesn't become you htl. Fawning over this cretin doesn't become you either, Madras. I don't expect anything sensible from mandiarse but I really thought you had more sense, tbh.

Weve been promoted to premiership have we? weve spent on class centre forwards? weve replaced ryan taylor and nicky butt in midfield? weve survived the first season post championship? f*** me you are THE over-expectand geordie fan myth played out by the media. You fuckin stupid c***. WE WILL BE UP FOR SALE THE DAY WE ARE PROMOTED Please give me a season of mediocrity before you piss me off again Everyone seems to know how it should be done, for some reason no one will put their money where their mouth is and JUST DO IT. Why are all the prospective buyers of Newcastle weighing their pennies and trying to buy the club at a stupidly low price and all their dithering will just allow Ashley to emerge the winner if promotion is achieved? I don't imagine many are comfortable dealing with the t***. Or the £150m of debt, which in the current market gives NUFC a net value of next to nothing. The debt has been there all along. If the interested parties wanted a a massive club capable of generating huge future profits without any debt then this just proves they weren't prepared to commit any investment risk at all. Could have sworn some people mentioned last week that one of Ashley's greatest achievements was that the club now has no debt. we only have as much debt as the owner wants to claw back (and if last summers asking price were true he will take a fair old loss) the difference isn't the debt anyway, as many have said all along, it's the way it is structured . far betteroff owe the money to the owner as he is unlikely to call it in (gibson,lerner,abramovich) than owe it to financial institutions and the taxman who will call it in (cardiff,portsmouth,leeds etc) So you agree there is a debt after all. Those know-nowt morons who said there wasn't. Anyway, so we can strike clearing the club debt off the list of your hero's achievements. What's left.....?

The previous owners generated a fair bit for themselves. although the club was left with a bit of debt mind... And how did they manage to do that? By selling it to someone else before they had to pay the bill. So simplistic.

The previous owners generated a fair bit for themselves. although the club was left with a bit of debt mind... And how did they manage to do that?

Ashley doing the good deed of buying in the pies at cost and scoffing them all himself at retail...

Weve been promoted to premiership have we? weve spent on class centre forwards? weve replaced ryan taylor and nicky butt in midfield? weve survived the first season post championship? f*** me you are THE over-expectand geordie fan myth played out by the media. You fuckin stupid c***. WE WILL BE UP FOR SALE THE DAY WE ARE PROMOTED Please give me a season of mediocrity before you piss me off again Everyone seems to know how it should be done, for some reason no one will put their money where their mouth is and JUST DO IT. Why are all the prospective buyers of Newcastle weighing their pennies and trying to buy the club at a stupidly low price and all their dithering will just allow Ashley to emerge the winner if promotion is achieved? I don't imagine many are comfortable dealing with the t***. Or the £150m of debt, which in the current market gives NUFC a net value of next to nothing. The debt has been there all along. If the interested parties wanted a a massive club capable of generating huge future profits without any debt then this just proves they weren't prepared to commit any investment risk at all. Could have sworn some people mentioned last week that one of Ashley's greatest achievements was that the club now has no debt.