M4

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

What a game! HOLD!

According to sky sports, Doncaster player tried to punch Kadar, Zurab stepped in to stop it and got sent off...

Oh well at least that's something, maybe a chance to get the card cancelled.

"They were banging each other left right and centre"

And now there's a red card.... ok.

1-2

 

FAIL

Fate double bluff. Well played, U Luque!

wow

"Thunderbolt" by Carroll. Get in.

Come on, push for eeeeeeeeettttttttttt

Can't believe this chance Jonas seems to have missed

... or maybe it's just completely typical. Sitting 4th as it stands.

http://nisja.sprayblogg.no/images/pires.jpg

 

a photo from a parallel universe?

was flicking through the pages and had the exact same thought when I saw it again. Good consistency.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2522/21122007131209bpimaurings4.jpg

Ooohh, that's a great one!

Typical idiotic European competition refereeing by the sounds of it!

These are supposed to be the best referee from every country in Europe

Indeed... The additional guidelines UEFA give them must really mess with some of their heads. I remember our UEFA Cup games and how ridiculous some of the refs were.

Typical idiotic European competition refereeing by the sounds of it!

Thank god for Pato's goal... that decision to disallow the other Milan winner was atrocious. What a joke.

You do realise we're top of the league?

 

Moaning idiots.

It's okay everyone, turns we are in fact top.

Down to 6th place

Nah, we'll stay 2nd.

You must have been seeing an already up to date table.

This league is quickly not becoming much fun anymore.

Ugh.

Great guy. Would love to have the same Le Sib playing for us this season, that's for sure!

Good luck to you Antoine

Well, obviously it wasn't about making a successfully working environment anymore, but I'm suggesting not guaranteeing that it would be an unsuccessful one. I simply don't see it as too much to ask for him to put up more of a fight (or putting up with a little more shit) and ensuring the season wouldn't end in disaster especially given the circumstances of his return.

Of course he was "technically", "legally" right but that doesn't make the way he just packed it in again (and knowing how much damage it would cause the club and team) any less annoying. Knowing his temperament he probably also played a part in manoeuvring himself into a position where he felt he had no alternative.

As much as you find it moronic to hold any of this against him, I find it weird to not consider his actions at least a little disappointing. That's just the basis of the opinion divide.

What was the bigger picture ?

The very immediate future of the club from a sporting perspective. So many people keep saying that the months that followed and our relegation proved how right Keegan was. Well I suggest that also means he quit and knowingly left the club in the hands of these incapable people.

It is easy to say, he should have backed down for the "greater good" or the fans on "moral" reasons like the love for the club. It's pretty obvious from the verdict that this wasn't a possibility any more. The situation in getting bossed around by numpties was unbearable by then. As romantic as it sounds of Keegan backing down for the love of the club for all to live on happy afterwards, I don't think this was on anymore and I find it pretty moronic to hold it against Keegan.

Well that sums up nicely the points we are disagreeing over. There's not much more to say I'm afraid.

Ah, it's moral now. It was about principles and I can't see anything wrong in a manager having the principles to be allowed to the job in a way it is suited to him which was fundamental to him accepting the job.

 

He's also holding the moral high ground in regards to refusing to sign players to do favours to dodgy agents though.

I think words morals/values/principles are easily interchangeable in this circumstance. And in essence I agree with what you are saying (they are now even proven facts), problem is how did taking what he saw as the high road help us the fans? Who he was supposedly looking out for, he claims?

As I said I find his principles very strange, misplaced maybe even selective. Just totally oblivious to the bigger picture.

The shot? He probably would have saved and it didn't move that much from hitting the beach ball, but the way the beach ball pinged right off really put him off / freaked him out.

Great footage of the beach ball goal just then on Sky, the thing literally creeps out onto the 6 yard line from Reina's blind spot and as that very Sunderland attack was developing. Talk about a perfect sequence of events to make it happen.

Also, Gray was using the pause and arrows to indicate where the ball was going

he’s always tried to do his best for us

I can't really believe that is true for the latest set of events. Even if he truly still believes this then, as said many times, his morals/values are pretty misplaced which is not acceptable either.

I thought Guivarc'h scored on his debut?

Pretty sure the Liverpool game was indeed his debut.

Can remember I thought it was great news when we signed him, was so pleased