Wullie

Perhaps if he were playing.

So if England draw tonight but pick up one less card and win the group, they've got a chance of winning the tournament as group winners, but one extra card, finish second, then they've less chance on the basis of history despite having, on paper, more favourable fixtures? What an odd point of view.

Mexico going out today would surely have merited some sort of stewards enquiry.

How do you propose fixing it when it's based on group performance?

Even moreso if Japan win H, it'll be a farce.

France are fucking shite and I hope Messi bins them out.

Best player so far is probably Modric.

That's fair enough but "we'll have to play a good team eventually so might as well be now" is a ludicrous position to take in a tournament with a maximum of four games left. Portugal finished third (third!) in their Euros group then played Croatia, Poland and Wales on their way to the final. At no point were they thinking "ffs we'll have to play France in the final so wish we were playing Germany instead of Wales".

FFS Mitro

I don't see what the last Euros have to do with it. It's a bit like saying "we got knocked out the FA Cup last year by Rotherham so I'm not bothered that we've drawn Chelsea in this year's third round" If Brazil win their group and Japan win H, it's 100% in England's interests to finish second. No amount of moral grandstanding about playing to win will change that. We'll not get a bonus goal for it to help us against Brazil while Belgium face Sweden for a place in the WC semi final. Personally I think Belgium are likely to fuck the game off and we'll play in the spirit of the game, win, and regret it later.

We'll already know our potential R16 opponents by then as well.

I don't like it but that goal really shows the benefit of VAR when it's a decision similar to goalline technology, a black or white decision, rather than a dodgy handball or debatable holding in the box.

Didn't realise they finished bottom. :lol:

That was fucking class. Same tonight for Brazil please Mitro.

FFS

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2018/jun/26/david-squires-on-hostility-culture-and-nordic-noir-at-the-world-cup-brazil-germany-var Batshuayi

It will go to half odds I think, as he's level with one other player. Optimistic Nut's the expert, think he had about an 8-fold winner one year but most were level, ended up with about twelve quid.

Mine's for £100, Son, Mitro, Neymar, Lukaku and Guerrero (settled as a level winner) Also need Brazil/Switzerland, Germany/Sweden and Colombia/Senegal to qualify for £135 off 50p. Don't see Sweden going through but stranger things have happened.

I had one of those shots bets settled as won earlier in the tournament and later rescinded.

Love just how much in the fucking mood Messi looks.

Fucking magnificent.

Musa FGS at 10/1 is good value.

Wish I'd bet the farm on a draw there. Had it on a 4-fold, need Iceland/Croatia draw and Nigeria win for £135.

2-0 Peru, Guerrero

That's really poor refereeing not letting them take that free kick imo.