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Now FM insults. Wow Happy you really are scraping the barrel here. Well done.

what financial stability like? he owns the club, has paid the debt off and spent little of the oodles of cash every club gets by virtue of being in the PL these days lets say we spent 20m in jan and went down, i doubt it'd make ashley walk away therefore all we'd have done would be to give it a shot...as it is we've left oourselves open to accusations of inactivity in the face of the inevitable, which is far worse the fact is 20m on the right players would have virtually guaranteed us staying up christs sake Your damn right "christs sake". Did you not see Keegan chasing players? Did you not read about Woodgate rejecting us? Fucking hell, maybe you think he should have paid £10M apiece for Bernard and Srnicek just so he could say he spent something on someone. Fucking spoilt brats man. Again with extreme scenario's, pathetic really. Aye. With Barnes in the team we'd have got some points out of Man U, Arsenal and Villa though. Jesus Wept. We'll do a Leeds. We'd put the club in financial jeopardy. It would be like FS. We can only sign panic buys. Were spoilt for wanting new players to avoid relegation or the battle. You must want to sign £10m Bernard just so we have someone Ever decreasing time for KK to sign players. Actually half a window, but it gets smaller in Happy's world. Honestly, its all just bullshit really. As for Barnes, why not say he could have made a difference in the Bolton, Boro or Blackburn games? Why? Coz happy's on a mission to pick out the worst case scenarios to back up his point of view. Because we played well in those games numb-nuts. You're saying we needed to sign people to lift the squad in the games where they're shit. Who else was screaming come and get me apart from Barnes then? We played well yet won none? Great. No players in mid who can run with the ball, or shoot, or even fuking pass, you think someone who can do that, coming to a new club and wanting to prove a point might just help in tight games like that. In the games you mentioned there's simply nothing we could have done, and you know it. A whole new team would be needed, and that can be done nexct summer, but right now we need to win the winnable games, a few changes in player personal would have got us closer to doing that. Who screams to join a club? You are simply talking out of your arse now. Player A wants to join NUFC so he shouts from the rooftops he want the move. It doesn't happen, where does that leave him? Jesus fuking wept man, have a word with yourself. As for the name calling, give it a rest, fukwit, numb-nuts, if that's what you have to resort to then you really are, well, i'm not going down that road, no need.

what financial stability like? he owns the club, has paid the debt off and spent little of the oodles of cash every club gets by virtue of being in the PL these days lets say we spent 20m in jan and went down, i doubt it'd make ashley walk away therefore all we'd have done would be to give it a shot...as it is we've left oourselves open to accusations of inactivity in the face of the inevitable, which is far worse the fact is 20m on the right players would have virtually guaranteed us staying up christs sake Your damn right "christs sake". Did you not see Keegan chasing players? Did you not read about Woodgate rejecting us? Fucking hell, maybe you think he should have paid £10M apiece for Bernard and Srnicek just so he could say he spent something on someone. Fucking spoilt brats man. Again with extreme scenario's, pathetic really. Aye. With Barnes in the team we'd have got some points out of Man U, Arsenal and Villa though. Jesus Wept. We'll do a Leeds. We'd put the club in financial jeopardy. It would be like FS. We can only sign panic buys. Were spoilt for wanting new players to avoid relegation or the battle. You must want to sign £10m Bernard just so we have someone Ever decreasing time for KK to sign players. Actually half a window, but it gets smaller in Happy's world. Honestly, its all just bullshit really. As for Barnes, why not say he could have made a difference in the Bolton, Boro or Blackburn games? Why? Coz happy's on a mission to pick out the worst case scenarios to back up his point of view.

what financial stability like? he owns the club, has paid the debt off and spent little of the oodles of cash every club gets by virtue of being in the PL these days lets say we spent 20m in jan and went down, i doubt it'd make ashley walk away therefore all we'd have done would be to give it a shot...as it is we've left oourselves open to accusations of inactivity in the face of the inevitable, which is far worse the fact is 20m on the right players would have virtually guaranteed us staying up christs sake Your damn right "christs sake". Did you not see Keegan chasing players? Did you not read about Woodgate rejecting us? Fucking hell, maybe you think he should have paid £10M apiece for Bernard and Srnicek just so he could say he spent something on someone. Fucking spoilt brats man. Again with extreme scenario's, pathetic really.

What else could he say? Yes they are shit, later Newcastle. Maybe it would be for the best, verbal kick up the arse, chances are it could do more damage than good. Its ok us facing facts, but do you really want someone of Shearer's stature putting the boot in when were down? Thought not.

Closer than throwing Leeds into the ring surely? Leeds were trying to sign players to 'live the dream' Pomnpy signed to survive, we should have done the same. Its not as different as you are trying to make out, and i still cannot see how they remained in credit, you only added the cost of Benjani.

Aye, he's put the money where it makes business sense. Drastic missing of point. If we go down, he wasted all of that money as the value of the club will drop enormously. Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin one...

He brought in 3 loans and signed 5 players. You only added the players they've got actual prices for, care to add how much the Tottenham trio cost and Dean Kiely? I'm sure the Spuds players cost £10m, and the money they got back was at the stasrt of the season not in the Jan window. They were going down, they were in trouble, those players turned it around. They were signed to help, not after they survived.

Aye, he's put the money where it makes business sense. So it doesn't make business sense to spend money on football players at a football club, especially one that is struggling? Ask a Leeds fan. Why is everything to the extreme? Why not ask a Pompy fan eh? (which is much more our situation than Leeds)

Aye, he's put the money where it makes business sense. So it doesn't make business sense to spend money on football players at a football club, especially one that is struggling?

He is a bit tight like, to only spend £200M on sorting out the clubs finances when there's players he could have thrown that money at. Did he learn nothing from his chats with the previous lot? Cook the books, beg, borrow and steal, but placate the fans with a big money signing at all costs. Anyone would think Shepherd had ran things badly at the club. It will cost him a lot more if the club goes down.

Did I? Touché. Why else are you arguing about him then? I'm not arguing about anything. Just putting peoples stupid ideas about him in to touch. Knocking a young lad for scoring only one goal in the league, when £60m+ worth of Manu talent can't do any better is fuking thick imo. Barnes getting NUFC grief and he hasn't even become a toon player, its just amazing, it really is. People aren't knocking him for being a young lad, they're knocking him because he's been brought up in this thread as someone we should have signed. i think he was actually brought up as one of the two players we know we bid for, therefore it's safe to assume we wanted to sign him there are obviously better midfielders throughout europe and the world, he's just the one we know keegan asked for Which is a fair point. KK thought he saw something in him, but for some reason we offered daft money, and guess what, its was greeted with a big KO. Some defended the club by saying we were going for him on the cheap and would go back, but we didn't. I just do not get what's going on with that one, which makes the Barnes situation even more bitter for myself. He should have and could have been ours for relatively cheap money. It cost twice as much to sack SA FFS. i've not seen that much of barnes but the parrells with dyer work on almost every level...when we paid 6m for dyer all those years ago he'd only played in the first division but excelled there, same as barnes, and there's nothing to suggest he'd not have struggled with ipswich when they were promoted a la barnes we thought 6m on a fast, young player with potential was worth it then, why not now? They only wanted £4m IIRC. We bid £2m He's worth £4m anyday, its not a risk, he's 19 and would easily full fill £4m worth of potential. I still cannot get my head around it. Billionaire owner being a cheap cunt in times of desperation. Crazy.

Derby rejected a bid. "They (Newcastle) did come up with an offer yesterday, a verbal offer, but it was nowhere near our valuation," Jewell said. What more proof to you want, should i get Skirge to do a question time for you? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2008/01/29/ufnbarnes129.xml

No you don't. Just got it.

Did I? Touché. Why else are you arguing about him then? I'm not arguing about anything. Just putting peoples stupid ideas about him in to touch. Knocking a young lad for scoring only one goal in the league, when £60m+ worth of Manu talent can't do any better is fuking thick imo. Barnes getting NUFC grief and he hasn't even become a toon player, its just amazing, it really is. People aren't knocking him for being a young lad, they're knocking him because he's been brought up in this thread as someone we should have signed. i think he was actually brought up as one of the two players we know we bid for, therefore it's safe to assume we wanted to sign him there are obviously better midfielders throughout europe and the world, he's just the one we know keegan asked for Which is a fair point. KK thought he saw something in him, but for some reason we offered daft money, and guess what, its was greeted with a big KO. Some defended the club by saying we were going for him on the cheap and would go back, but we didn't. I just do not get what's going on with that one, which makes the Barnes situation even more bitter for myself. He should have and could have been ours for relatively cheap money. It cost twice as much to sack SA FFS.

Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc Just about get what you are saying, surprisingly, and even more surprisingly i agree. He couldn't prevent what happened, he wasn't here, but he could have fixed it, still can, but the job would have been made easier with new bodies surely?

As I said earlier, it's far too simplistic imo to say that. We probably wouldn't be in this scrap had Keegan been in charge for the two Derby games, for example. You could be right, but in times of dire need of help, we got no one in. Only a man who'd been out of the game for far too long to make any judgement on players. That's having an effect, if we had signed 2 or 3 players we'd be lifted, morale of the players, the fans, the management, and we'd have more points. All imo of course, but sometimes it is just that simple, bringing in players would have turned this season around, not in dramatic style, but enough to put decent daylight between us and relegation.

Did I? Touché. Why else are you arguing about him then? I'm not arguing about anything. Just putting peoples stupid ideas about him in to touch. Knocking a young lad for scoring only one goal in the league, when £60m+ worth of Manu talent can't do any better is fuking thick imo. Barnes getting NUFC grief and he hasn't even become a toon player, its just amazing, it really is. People aren't knocking him for being a young lad, they're knocking him because he's been brought up in this thread as someone we should have signed. What it is, is people trying to justify why KK signed no one in the window. Any means necessary to protect him, when in reality because we signed no one were in a relegation fight.

Did I? Touché. Why else are you arguing about him then? I'm not arguing about anything. Just putting peoples stupid ideas about him in to touch. Knocking a young lad for scoring only one goal in the league, when £60m+ worth of Manu talent can't do any better is fuking thick imo. Barnes getting NUFC grief and he hasn't even become a toon player, its just amazing, it really is.

Did I?

Better than Smith and in the worst team in the league? Oh, and same amount of goals in the same-ish amount of games as Hargreaves, Scholes and Carrick and one more than Anderson! smith playing as a sriker for a fair chunk of that mind you! I just like the fact he's getting wrong for being 19 and scoring only one goal in the league in the bottom club while a Manu top of the league quartet haven't done any better!

Better than Smith and in the worst team in the league? Oh, and same amount of goals in the same-ish amount of games as Hargreaves, Scholes and Carrick and one more than Anderson!

We dig up old managers, why not old threads?

He's had 14 starts 7 subs in the prem this season, so 21 out of 28 games he's featured, not back since he started the season with a broken foot. He missed the 1st 6 games with that broken foot, then obviously made his sub appearances getting back to fitness. Any talk of Derby not rating him and not playing him is fuking stupid tbh.

I had high hopes so fucking what? Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing?