The College Dropout

That's debatable tbh. It's not. Benteke is much more all round.. Unbelievable makes the most sense on this forum.

I'd have Benteke. At 21, he's a better all-rounder and prospect. Point is, these are inferior strikers in inferior teams,who have scored more goals. So, Cisse must take some of the blame. Most of the blame for his lack of goals. "About right" is bullshit. Worse strikers in worse teams do better.

Maybe the point is, Cisse doesn't do enough to have enough shots at goal? Maybe he's not fast enough, not skillful enough, not strong enough, not good enough in the air, needs to improve his movement etc. It's always what others arent' doing for him. But he's not doing enough for himself or the team. Adam LeFondre has 10 league goals. Arouna Kone has 8. Rickie Lambert has 12. Benteke has 11. The list goes on. Only QPR below us don't have a player who has scored more goals. It's not everyone else's fault.

No i'm not missing the point. "Considering the lack of service" is bullshit. Same service we've had for ages where our strikers have been scoring goals.

As much as I despise Owen, the whole OMG SOLDIER thing again.... Agreed.

Fully agree with this. This is so deep-rooted i'm probably going to leave this thread alone.

What Unbelievable is saying... if he's not that strong, nor fast. Can't create from nothing. Isn't great at link-up. And is so reliant on excellent service. Maybe, just maybe.... he's not that great of a footballer. This is why I compare him to Bent. For ages people have been telling me he's more than a poacher.

My main worry is that he's not the type to grab a team by the scruff of the neck and lead from the front in a struggling side, but he just doesn't seem that type of player. If we can go on a winning run again then I'm confident he'll play his part in it, chipping in with goals and intelligent all-round play and movement. Agreed. His game seems to be very natural and confidence based to strike a ball cleanly. If there's shit loads of pressure strikers tend to think more which isn't his strength.

Agreed. first time instinct finisher. 1-2 touches from anywhere. If it's not working at this point, it's probably HIS fault. These people are still like "NOPE, it's probably Jonas fault".

Thank you. Suarez, Bale, heck even Demba Ba get themselves into positions either with skill, pace, movement or just sheer strength and they get their shots off. He's shown he can score in this team, as has Demba Ba. Now all of a sudden, we are so crap creatively 6 goals in 20 something games is "about right"? The same amount of goals as Yohan Cabaye? Less than Lambert. Probably around the same as a couple Reading lads. Aye, "about right". People moaned and cried for months from him to be the head of a 4-3-3 type system. We've done that. We've added some pace and movement to the left. A better outlet from deep on the right. Real movement, strength, power, pace and quality balls from our #10 type player and #4 deep midfielder. Now these guys aren't doing enough FOR Cisse. Maybe Cisse isn't doing enough for them?

Jenkinson played, I meant out of the two sides tonight. Giroud over Adebayor? Nope. Not ability wise anyway from what i've seen. Point is, would anyone have anymore than 3? 4 max. Never before could you say that in the Wenger era.

Podolski - Giroud - Walcott are good players. None are top quality. When was the last time Arsenal played Spurs and Spurs had the best player? Had the better goalie? The better individual defender? etc. Honestly, only Cazorla and Wilshere would definitely get into the Spurs side. Maybe Walcott. Wild times.

"6 goals is about right". Bullshit.

I don't think they're that bad. Just a transitionary season or two. A few players have disappointed, but Wenger will get it right in time. Whether he'll get it is another matter of course Season ticket is horrendously high.

Wouldn't collapse. Wouldn't be 3rd either.

Can you not count? We need to create more opportunities, unless you honestly believe one chance a game is good service? Is another striker going to be more clinical considering how little we create? The average conversion rate for a top striker is 20%. For 18 months we've had strikers that can score regularly. Now, with a better team, we aren't creating the chances? Cool.

Arsenal fans have the worst value for money side in the league.

Agreed. Ramsey man. Just not good enough.

No. We just need another real option.

Have not looked like they have the class to break Spurs down.

Real lack of quality from Arsenal.

How many have Everton got? They're 6th.

This squad only has 1 goal scorer.

I thought he was crap in the first half and a bit better in the second, meaning that he was finding team mates with the the ball. in the first half, 19 of his 23 passes where successful.

The rant on Pardew is not on yesterday's game but his poor season . Oh okay, aren't you bored of that by now? Aye, he's been poor overall.