The College Dropout

People will say Gordon wasn't bad last season. But someone with 40% more goal involvements was terrible for 6 months.

We wanted Szob right ? He’s a creator

Nah lots of people with good reputations said we overpaid for Tonali and Isak. They were gambles. I don't think Daiby wasn't good enough. His stats speak for themselves. He played every league game and completed 34 games worth 90 minutes in all comps. I think they realised Rogers was going to be better and they could get all of their money back for Diaby, they had major FFP issues so he was sold. He wasn't a flop or anything. He played regularly and contributed well to a team that finished 4th. He performed better than any one of the Chelsea attackers and i wouldn't class Pedro Neto as a flop - just not a major success.

Moussa Diaby scored 6 goals and had 10 assists in the PL in his one season there. I don't think ppl were "massively wrong" on him. That's better than Anthony Gordon this season. But with that fee you would hope for someone to be transformational and he wasn't. I think he had pretty strong pedigree too. He had 9 goals, 9 assists in his last Bundesliga season, he tracked close to that. Nothing in his profile suggested he was a playmaker or ought so they got what they got. I love the look of Akliouche - but he doesn't have the proven record. If he did though he would cost £60m+. In our position you have to gamble on players. Isak wasn't a guaranteed hit, he came after a season scoring 6 league goals. That's why other big clubs didn't go in for him. They said we overpaid for Tonali. In our position, we have to go for players that other top clubs aren't convinced about - but we are. Or they think is too expensive but fits perfect for us.

Don’t let Froggy ruin our own transfer thread with his Man U bs.

Yeh tbf

I feel like Elanga has that hunger and attitude - the intangibles to maybe become a top player and I don’t see that from Madueke. But Madueke seems more talented. I don’t like either of them though. Well I do but not enough for £50m+. That one French lad passes the YouTube test. Let’s get him in.

I hate that for me to be proven right Man U will have to do fairly well. I hope I’m wrong and Man U struggle with life after the great Bruno Fernandes leaves.

This suggests to me all that is stopping Bruno being held in KDB regard is Man U’s strikers over the years.

Talking about ability as a player - I find goals and assists 2dimensional. G/A we can act like Fernandes is on the same level as a KDB or Hazard. But ability? It’s not close. Prime Wilson was a bagsman, never near Isak’s ability. Fernandes at his best was inevitable. He’ll do something that counts. But he’s a level below Eden Hazard - who could light a game up and not score or assist at all. Or even get particularly close.

As we can now see - the difference between David Beckham and Jacob Murphy was Alexander Isak.

A man suggested the difference between Bruno Fernandes and KDB is Sergio Aguero and Haaland. Im going to glass myself.

‘Stats’ are rotting our brains. I’ve sat and watch them both for years, year in year out and never have I thought Bruno Fernandes was as good as prime KDB as a footballer. Never. It doesn’t pass the eye test Fernandes might have better stats than Eden Hazard, Hazard was a better player and it’s not close. Haaland can score 50 goals, he’s not as good as Cristiano. Cristiano can score 200 goals, he was never as good as Messi.

Ah the greatest midfielders to wear the Red kit of Manchester United: Charlton Best Keane Scholes Giggs Beckham Ronaldo Bruno Fernandes

Name more players you would describe as ‘absolutely outstanding’

‘Absolutely outstanding’. What has Kevin De Bruyne been? Those two words together for me make me think of the very best we’ve seen. That’s how my dad talks about Marco Van Basten - scrunch his face and shake his head ‘outstanding’. That’s how you’re talking about Bruno Fernandes. Bruno Fernandes is a very good player. No more. They’ll be fine with Cunha.

Agreed. It's Marketing and legend building. Adidas semi do it with the Nostalgia kits but the club should do more to shape this as a return to our rightful place in Europe's hierarchy - even if it's not fully true - it's what good marketers would tell everyone.

He’s not even a top 20 Man U player of my lifetime

Harry Kane moved to Bayern for £90m at 30 years old. Fernandes would be available for what? 40-60m. No buyers in Europe. Juve don’t even want him. He’s prime Inter material but he’s not good enough.

They act like he’s one of the best players going and will be a massive loss when he leaves. They just finished 8th and 15th. He’s likely to go to Saudi - he’s not an elite player.

In shirt - neither are proper ballers. But I kinda like them both too but not enough. A combination of the 2 I would love.

Tino is almost invaluable due to the lack alternatives and his flexibility. It needs to be a stupid offer.

So we would have Trippier and Krafth as our RBs?

Same issue for City. So if they want him they need to pay up. There’s no obvious alternative that can plug and play.

I don’t agree. People act like Bruno Fernandes is prime Gareth Bale. —- Re: Elanga and Madueke - don’t love either. Both are the type you pick up for 20-30m not double. I don’t think either have that Raphinha ability to justify £50-60m outlay. Of the 2 - I think Madueke’s technical ability is greater but his end product is so so and I don’t like the cut of his jib. Would be serious if Howe’d but so could lots of others. Elanga feels more of a constant danger and more reliable end product. I like the cut of his jib. But Impressjon is he’s not as solid technically. It’s hard to separate themselves from their teams style of play tbh. Chelsea do the slow patient stuff and Forest do the fast transition stuff and both seem to suit and somewhat define those systems. Everyone needs the job remarks are similar to the clubs.