geordiedean

\ Not easy when you've only taken 5 from 36

How much time?? If we only have 25 points going into april is that fine?

The fans who go and pay their money have a right to vent their disappointment in what they are seeing/paying for just like any customer who pays for a product has his right to air his displeasure

They all have far far better players though not one of our players would get into any of their teams to be honest

The thumb and Rafa are locked in office Sons of Anarchy style

I did expect us to be around the bottom 6 granted but its the nature of the tactics and performances that is the main gripe and dislike of the situation. Wagner and Hughton at least have a go at teams. Its as if we are shit scared of the teams in this division

Its not about the performances if dull performances are getting results then you have stumbled upon a working system. Take George Grahams Arsenal for example. My absolute main grief with Rafa's pragmatic and negative approach which is why i'm blaming him and questioning his decisions is the fact that we aren't even trying to compete in these games. Any kind of team sport you have to at least compete to stand a chance of winning, Today and Wednesday was just unacceptable and its as if weve forfeited the chance of even competing or winning before kickoff and our main aim is to stifle our way to a damage limitation or a draw. The tactics he is employing gives us very very little chance of scoring goals. how many games at home have we actually scored in 4 or 5?? Home form is what gives a very poor team a chance of survival without it we are sunk

Josemi Malaga £2,000,000 26 July 2004 Antonio Nunez Real Madrid £1,500,000 17 August 2004 Xabi Alonso Real Sociedad £10,700,000 20 August 2004 Luis Garcia Barcelona £6,000,000 20 August 2004 Mauricio Pellegrino Valencia Free 5 January 2005 Fernando Morientes Real Madrid £6,300,000 13 January 2005 Scott Carson Leeds £1,000,000 21 January 2005 Boudewijn Zenden Free Transfer Free 4 July 2005 Pepe Reina Villarreal £6,000,000 4 July 2005 Antonio Barragan Sevilla £240,000 4 July 2005 Momo Sissoko Valencia £5,600,000 14 July 2005 Peter Crouch Southampton £7,000,000 20 July 2005 Miki Roque Lleidav Unknown 15 August 2005 Jack Hobbs Lincoln £150,000 18 August 2005 Besian Idrizaj LASK Linz £190,000 22 August 2005 Mark Gonzalez Albacete £1,500,000 20 October 2005 Paul Anderson Hull Swap 1 January 2006 Jan Kromkamp Villarreal Swap 4 January 2006 David Martin MK Dons £250,000 12 January 2006 Daniel Agger Brondby £5,800,000 12 January 2006 Robbie Fowler Man City Free 27 January 2006 Craig Bellamy Blackburn £6,000,000 1 July 2006 Gabriel Paletta Banfield £2,000,000 4 July 2006 Fabio Aurelio Valencia Free 5 July 2006 Jermaine Pennant Birmingham £6,700,000 26 July 2006 Dirk Kuyt Feyenoord £9,000,000 18 August 2006 Nabil El Zhar St Etienne £200,000 21 August 2006 Astrit Ajdarevic Falkenberg £750,000 11 January 2007 Daniele Padelli Sampdoria Loan 12 January 2007 Jordy Brouwer Ajax Undisclosed 24 January 2007 Francisco Manuel Duran Malaga £66,000 30 January 2007 Alvaro Arbeloa Deportivo £2,500,000 31 January 2007 Javier Mascherano West Ham Loan 20 February 2007 Lucas Gremio £5,000,000 11 May 2007 Krisztian Nemeth MTK Hungaria Undisclosed 25 May 2007 Mikel San Jose Athletic Bilbao £270,000 28 June 2007 Sebastian Leto Lanús £1,800,000 1 July 2007 Fernando Torres Atletico Madrid £20,200,000 4 July 2007 Andriy Voronin Leverkusen Free 6 July 2007 Yossi Benayoun West Ham £5,000,000 12 July 2007 Ryan Babel Ajax £11,500,000 13 July 2007 Charles Itandje Lens Undisclosed 9 August 2007 Emiliano Insua Boca Juniors £1,300,000 26 August 2007 Lauri Dalla Valle JIPPO £600,000 8 November 2007 Martin Skrtel Zenit St Petersburg £6,500,000 11 January 2008 Javier Mascherano Media Sports Investment £18,600,000 29 February 2008 Philipp Degen Borussia Dortmund Free 3 July 2008 Andrea Dossena Udinese £7,000,000 4 July 2008 Diego Cavalieri Palmeiras £3,500,000 11 July 2008 David N'Gog Paris St Germain £1,500,000 24 July 2008 Robbie Keane Tottenham £19,000,000 28 July 2008 Albert Riera Espanyol £8,000,000 31 August 2008 Glen Johnson Portsmouth £17,500,000 26 June 2009 Alberto Aquilani Roma £17,100,000 7 August 2009 Sotirios Kyrgiakos AEK Athens £2,000,000 21 August 2009 Daniel Ayala Sevilla £160,000 17 September 2009 Maxi Rodriguez Atletico Madrid Free 12 January 2010 Raheem Sterling Queens Park Rangers £600,000 27 February 2010 Jonjo Shelvey Charlton £1,700,000 10 May 2010 Milan Jovanovic Standard Liege Free 8 July 2010 I suppose Hicks and Gillet forced these on him too then. Give or take 6 big plusses the rest are fucking appaling

You use commas for ellipses, think Lejeune cost 7mil and spell Daryl with a double R. Do you have a Sunderland post code? How much did Lejeune cost then?. No I don't have a Sunderland postcode heaven forbid anyone that even challenges or questions anything that happens with our club is branded a Mackem by some kid who cant see through the black and white glasses Looka the bigger picture here love Rafa all you like, praise him all you like the cold hard truth is hes taking us down and will be deemed a failure when he does so

Another mature response from a guy who cant see the wood for the trees Coming from the man that is doing the forum equivalent of banging his head against a brick wall. Constantly parroting utter bollocks about Ashley and the transfer budget. Spectacularly missing the point despite it getting highlighted every other post. Either you’re a RTG mackem troll, a bit simple or just a bit of a creep. I’m going with creep. Wrong again. I have the right to question anything that I feel or perceive is wrong, im absolutely entitled to my opinion and im not blinkered by what is being played out this season How old are you by the way because you come across as some absolute lovestruck kid

He does decide because Rafa aint got 100mil in his back pocket to sign a prime Fernando Torres. He gives a budget just like any other owner/chairman who runs a business and then the manager works with that budget. He does not decide who is recruited with that budget. Rafa chose to sign these useless f***ers he was not forced to what cant you understand about that *breathe* Right... Example time Rafa wants a 15mil striker, a 10mil LB and a 15 mil CM. 40mil is not much in todays market. Ashley counters with a budget of 18mil. Rafa then has to buy a 5mil Joselu, a 5mil Manq, and an 8mil Merino. If he doesn't buy them, we have no LB to cover the injured Dummett, no CF he trusts other than Gayle, and 2 CMs in Hayden and Jonjo. See the problem? Or would you rather he bought nobody and we play Mitrovic at LB? Are you trying to tell me that even with 18m to spend there wasn't better options for 3..players than Manquillo,Joselu and Merino We had Mbemba and Hanley as cb cover neither are any worse than Lejeune,,,,so there is 7m wasted We had Darryl Murphy who is no worse than Joselu,,,,theres 5m wasted you don't go and blow your budget on bodies just for the sake of filling a hole

Another mature response from a guy who cant see the wood for the trees

He does decide because Rafa aint got 100mil in his back pocket to sign a prime Fernando Torres. He gives a budget just like any other owner/chairman who runs a business and then the manager works with that budget. He does not decide who is recruited with that budget. Rafa chose to sign these useless fuckers he was not forced to what cant you understand about that

Was Joselu his first choice? Or a last resort due to financial restrictions from Ashley? It doesn't f***ing matter he decided to sign him, he wasn't forced at gunpoint to say yes. He sold a guy in Darryl Murphy who would have been far more effective than this plank He was essentially forced to sign dross like Joselu and Manq due to having no other option, you monumental toss pot I'm sure he would of loved Cenk Tosun and Luke Shaw, but guess what? NEWSFLASH. MIKE ASHELY OWNS US. Youre the tosspot for thinking Mike Ashley decides who we sign. A manager can say no you know. Do a bit of fucking research and look at some of the absolute shite that he signed for Liverpool too Oh I suppose Hicks and Gillet forced him to sign that shite too

Is it Rafas fault that Yedlin can't defend? Is it Rafas fault Dummett can only HOOOOOF? Is it Rafas fault Hayden is out of his depth? Is it Rafas fault that Atsu is our only semi decent winger? Is it Rafas fault Joselu is the Spanish Luuk De Jong? Open your eyes HTT. The squad lacks quality to such a degree Rafa doesn't trust them to think for themselves. He doesn't want them taking to many risks, because there is a higher chance we loss possession, are out of shape and get done on the counter. So instead he knows our numerous limitations, and as a result its COMPACT COMPACT COMPACT. If we had even 3 quality players maybe he would encourage more expansive football. But it's backs to the wall because he has no real choice. He signed most of them so he has to take some responsibility for that. Bingo People say these players are shit.....who bought them then? How many times? Mike Ashley's transfer budget. How many times....he wasn't forced to buy these at all he could have used that budget on 2 players not 6 absolute shite ones...we didn't need joselu,manquillo,murphy,lejeune

Mind blown. It's asif Ashley doesn't exist and Rafa wasted 20mil of Joselu for the laugh. Do you think the chairman decides who a team signs??.....The manager decides on who he wants to recruit just like in any business. If you think Ashley forced these players on him then youre blinded

Was Joselu his first choice? Or a last resort due to financial restrictions from Ashley? It doesn't fucking matter he decided to sign him, he wasn't forced at gunpoint to say yes. He sold a guy in Darryl Murphy who would have been far more effective than this plank

Is it Rafas fault that Yedlin can't defend? Is it Rafas fault Dummett can only HOOOOOF? Is it Rafas fault Hayden is out of his depth? Is it Rafas fault that Atsu is our only semi decent winger? Is it Rafas fault Joselu is the Spanish Luuk De Jong? Open your eyes HTT. The squad lacks quality to such a degree Rafa doesn't trust them to think for themselves. He doesn't want them taking to many risks, because there is a higher chance we loss possession, are out of shape and get done on the counter. So instead he knows our numerous limitations, and as a result its COMPACT COMPACT COMPACT. If we had even 3 quality players maybe he would encourage more expansive football. But it's backs to the wall because he has no real choice. He signed most of them so he has to take some responsibility for that. Bingo People say these players are shit.....who bought them then?

For me, he would have to travel back in time ten years and alter the course of history resulting in an owner that runs the club in an intelligent, professional manner, maximising its commercial revenue and allowing that to be invested back into the playing staff. Who exactly do you think would do better with this current squad? Pardew? McClaren? Kinnear? Carver? That is the quality of alternatives under Ashley. I think the guy in the opposite dugout today could do just as good a job as Rafa is doing today with this squad to be honest Im sick to death of him being absolved of any blame for shite performances week in week out. The 2 performances we have just put in this week are 2 of the most insipid, pathetic,gutless and toothless performances ive ever ever witnessed. Dress the Man City one up all you want but we conceded that game before wed even kicked off that is not football and Rafa is the guy who tells these useless fuckwits to play this way Im sick to death of watching this negative approach to every game as if we are little old Newcatsle from the northern premier league taking on the big boys...its shit

You blame him for playing all the time not the fact that he was signed by him or forced upon him. Everyone in the ground can see he doesn't even half half of the ability that Shola had The guy is the worst top flight striker ive seen in over 40 years of supporting Newcastle and Rafa still p[uts him as probably the 2nd name on the teamsheet....that's his fault

What does this fella have to do before people start realising a lot of the issues we are having is down to him

Every game is the same. It's what we do, surrender possession so we can try and not get beat. Funny that, we beat West Ham just the other week with 35% possession whilst apparently 'trying not to get beat' That's what we do. We go out to not get beat and if we score then brilliant. We never go out to try and take it to a team. I will never warm to this kind of football like, always detested the "not get beat" style. Just takes any kind of enjoyment out of the game of football. I was taking the p*ss, you'd have to be a bit daft to think that we went out to not get beaten in that West Ham match. I'm mainly talking about playing this way at home. It isn't right. I don't agree, Rafa's working with what he has, if you think we should take it to teams indiscriminately, godspeed. So are you happy with two banks of four in front of our box and letting a team as s*** as Brighton have all the possession? I just don't get it. It's not how it should be done at home, which is why our record is so s***. I didn't say I was happy, I said Rafa's working with what he has. He is, I agree with you, but I wish we would do it with the ball more. We set up at home like you would expect for an away game. You should never let the opposition have more of the ball than you at home like, but we set up like that. For me it is nowhere near good enough. It's been said countless times, but I can't work out why people can agree that Rafa's working with what he has and then complain that we don't dominate possession or take it to teams at home. Which one is it? Is Rafa working with what he has or should we be attacking teams? For me there's a crucial link between the two and a bit of contradiction in terms from people who keep forgetting time and time and time again that these players are nowhere near good enough. Some of these players aren't a million miles off being good enough. That's where I fundamentally disagree, for me it's comfortably the worst NUFC squad I've ever seen for the level its playing at, including both relegation squads. The previous 2 relegation teams are absolutely streets ahead of this shower of shit. If we don't finish bottom come may ill be amazed

Sack the Spanish Tony Pulis and we get that bounce

Every single one in the squad is championship quality some not even that. When we go down again we will be stuck there for years as we have no one of quality with any decent resale value in the squad this time Im sorry but this free pass crap with Rafa needs to fucking stop, everyone saying its not his fault that's absolute bullshit. Its his tactics,its his team, its his signings, its his substitutions, its his motivation and playing orders and he is fucking failing miserably. The football we are churning out is absolutely no different to the shite we witnessed under Pardew,Mclaren or Carver If he takes us down he will be in the same category as them chumps for me

What promise does January bring??.....Theres absolutely no fucking promises at all your'e in for a massive disappointment