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The thing is, Robbens foot doesn't get stuck or anything, he actually throws himself with a slight touch on his toes. We might as well blow every contact then. Robben THROWS himself, he doesn't fall or over exaggerate. I'm a big defender of over exaggerating, but there's a difference between that and falling on purpose.

Lovrens left arm, holds his shoulder. Check the moving images again. There's barely any contact, but I don't see how Robben gets away with it for you but not Fred.

Simple as that really. Well then don't tell me Fred didn't earn that penalty. He got a slight pull on his shoulder and fell, defender didn't even go for the ball. Not comparable imho although I can see why you are desperate to make it seem so. A slight tug on the shoulder/shirt happens hundreds of times in any given match, on both sides. An incident like this doesn't. Had Marquez not touched Robben he would have had a very good chance at a shot or pass (yeah right) to somebody in a better position. That's ridiculous, Fred could've turn and shot if the slight touch doesn't come either. Neither are penalties, but I'll leave it at that.

Simple as that really. Well then don't tell me Fred didn't earn that penalty. He got a slight pull on his shoulder and fell, defender didn't even go for the ball.

That picture means nothing, look at the moving pictures ffs. Any single image can look worse or better. I have looked at the moving pictures. Marquez is nowhere near the ball and his only intention is to stop Robben skipping past him. I'm being honest here, check Robbens foot, there's the slightest of touches but instead of putting his right foot down he throws himself. It's never a penalty in that situation.

I don't blame Robben, he's doing what anyone would do in that position. I wonder what Unbelievables opinion is, the man who condemned Suarez handball at the World Cup. Going by his arguments back then, there's no way he's happy here. I'm not particularly happy no. Actually, there is a nice parallel between this incident and our tournament in general so far; both are effective and "acceptable" within the rules, but both do not really command respect or set the pulse racing. Still I think we've been on the receiving end of two questionable penalties already this tournament, and nobody could have complained if Robben got a penalty in the first half. So in that sense I don't think the pen was unjustified, especially as Marquez did foul him. Robben is a brilliant player, but I don't like that side of him, same as I suspect you don't like it on Neymar. That's a fair comment, but like for me both us of will hear about the penalty we didn't deserve rather than the one not whistled. Robben did deserve one just like Hulk deserved one yesterday. Still think there should be more contact to warrant a penalty. Just like Fred he took advantage of the slightest of touches and fell. I didn't think it was a penalty, but like you said, in general maybe it was justified as he didn't get one earlier. palnese, obviously players should get the blame, but the pressure on players are unbearable so any advantage they can take they will. I'm not saying it's right per se, I'm just saying that I don't blame him for doing it as I think 99% of players would fall there. What happens if Robben doesn't and they don't win? It's just the way football works, obviously everyone wants an as fair game as possible but until computer systems starts reffing games we'll see these types of situations.

I don't blame Robben, he's doing what anyone would do in that position. I wonder what Unbelievables opinion is, the man who condemned Suarez handball at the World Cup. Going by his arguments back then, there's no way he's happy here.

Butbutbut...there was "contact" . Aye, I think more should be required to blow a penalty. It's not the same as in the middle of the pitch. There's the slightest of touches and just like Fred he throws himself for it. Referees should require more contact needs to be made for a penalty.

We know its a dive but its also a penalty Then Fred's is also a penalty, as the defender puts his hand on his shoulder.

I'm definitely not one to speak, but that is a fucking dive in my opinion. He's smart, but there's no way he can't stand on his leg there.

Robben 3rd best? Ha Ha

Cooling break for euro teams. f*** off

That anthem is terrible.

Chile really didn't have many opportunities that is true, worrying for you was the fact Sanchez won quite a few aerial battles. You can still win the whole thing, but you are not even close of reaching your potential. Good thing is Scolari seems to drop Paulinho, who has been awful. Fernandinho should start, and is Gustavo suspended from the QF? I seem to remember him getting a yellow yesterday. Yes he's out. Will be interesting to see. I'd bench Oscar and put Paulinho on. Play Paulinho a bit more free infront of David Luiz and Fernandinho with Dante in the CB with Thiago. Think Paulinho has been lost because he's had to cover so much. I mean Fernandinho who has excellent fitness went out after an hour for cramps all over. Doubt we'll see that but I think we need an extra midfielder. Rely on Neymar and Hulk offensively and hope Fred scores like he usually does when it most matters.

http://canchallena.lanacion.com.ar/1705470-polemica-en-el-maracana-el-codazo-de-yepes-a-forlan-dentro-del-area Wasn't a low cross, was a cross. You can see it there.

A low cross came in to the area, and he stepped back with his elbow towards Forlan who fell. Didn't actually get him, but they started arguing and Forlan chested him and all. Yepes was quite lucky because he stepped back instead of going for the ball and if he hits Forlan and the ref sees it it's a penalty.

I was only repeating what you said

She's showing her support for Chile with a Chile bikini. No wrong in that

A women has lush tits I can bury my face into? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I knew that was coming I meant in terms of respect.

What he did to Forlan though, was lucky he didn't actually hit him, because that was just plain stupid.

She's got a lot of respect for herself. Nice tho. Women. Respect. Seriously though, what's the difference between that and a guy without a shirt?

Not sure if NSFW but anyways, same Chilean journalist as Tooj posted but this time this morning.

That Vidal pass for the only shot Cesar saved. What a fucking pass and save.

I'm talking about individual mistakes. Not general mistakes as most goals occur then. Every goal conceded has been due to an individual mistake either in a mistake itself or positioning like a 12 year old. I agree with you, but we controlled the game yesterday in our own way, we didn't invite pressure on us, what we did was to force Chile to play long balls. I thought the marking was excellent and without an individual error we would've won 2-0 by countering in a goal at the end when they'd have to force a bit. Our zonal marking forced them to send longballs that were dealt with easily. We've showed that we play differently depending on what team we play, I hope the pressure loosens up a bit now so the players can perform a bit better, felt like they had tons of bricks on their shoulders yesterday and were feeling the pressure. Against a Germany or Argentina side there's no way we'll let them control the game, I expect us in games like that to play like we did against Spain in the Confed by putting pressure from the off, something that is impossible to do against teams like Chile. Right now I have a hard time seeing us beat Colombia easily and am expecting another difficult game, but if we turn up and play the football we have been under Scolari outside of this last month than I'm confident we can beat them with ease as their midfield and defense is extremely vulnerable to players like Neymar and Hulk. I just hope Fred can keep Zapata or Yepes occupied because until now we've essentially played with 10 men.