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Fortunate or unfortunate? I'd say some unfortunate decisions, some fortunate goalkeeping

Fluminense in so much trouble. Have to win away to Bahia on the last day and hope other teams lose.

Decent enough. You guys keep going from strength to strength under Martinez no?

That has been this week, the other weeks they've been very good going forward. Alexis and Pedro are completely different players next to Neymar, he's finding them open all the time. You can't make a statement like that based on one game. Barcelona has been the very same the whole season with or without Messi. They've had a bad week, and are tend to have those under a new manager who has been changing the style a bit. VI is spot on in what he says, the more direct and risk taking style will hurt them plenty of times if they don't put away their chances. As for tonight, Neymar had an excellent chance, then he had another one that he fluffed over the goal, then he had the one on one with the keeper where he was brought down, should've been a red IMO and the commentators thought the same. I mean he's a yard from the box and cuts into his foot to shoot, the other defender will never reach him. Knowing Neymar tonight and this season he'd probably have missed anyways so maybe a yellow was a good decision after all.

Xavi hasn't been himself this season, thought Barcelona has looked better with Iniesta - Fabregas. I'd play Neymar centrally and Pedro and Sanchez either side when Messi's out. Selling Thiago was seriously a terrible decision. It wasn't our decision, just a botch from our DoF for allowing that release clause in his contract. Regarding our playstyle this season, Martino has encouraged the players to take more risks and play more direct, which results on losing the ball more and less control of the games; thing is that we don't look particularly more threatening in possession, and we are more fragile as a result. The Fàbregas as striker madness has to stop, though. Why so many managers (Del Bosque, Vilanova, Martino...) use him in that role I just don't understand. It's a shame, should really try and prize Thiago Silva away from PSG. He'd make a real change to that defense. How's the game been? Lyon started the first 5-10 quite well, hit the bar once. Apart from that it has been PSG all the way, should have had at least another penalty. The difference in class is huge, as expected. The tempo has been quite low for the last 25 minutes with both teams sort of waiting for the final whistle. Lyon have really had an up and down season according to a french friend. Some games they look excellent others like relegation battlers.

Are we watching the same game? Deserved? Sure Barcelona haven't been good by their standards, but they've been controlling the midfield and had the best chances. Bilbao should've had a defender sent off as well. Give over was it a sending off! Barca have been sloppy, Neymar has been awful, they were caught on the break regularly in first half. Was matter if time before they got punished. Best chance of the game was Bilbao's sitter from 5 yards which he fluffed. Barca just look a different side without Messi, hardly seen Fabregas in the game or Sanchez. Wait a second, bringing someone down when he's through against the goalie isn't a sending off? Also the five yards fluffed chance came after goal so it's irrelevant to your point about them having deserved the goal especially as Barcelona has controlled that midfield and Neymar missed two or three alone with goalkeeper. Have you watched Barcelona with Messi this season? Been pretty much the same side tbf, not too dominant but still creating plenty of chances, difference is Messi puts them in and Neymar isn't. To say they look a different side is pretty ridiculous, only difference is efficiency. Wasn't even on about that fluffed chance. Meant the sitter in the first half when he somehow bundled the ball into keepers arms. Barca deserve nothing and I don't know why you think they do. Bilbao have executed their gameplan to perfection so far. I think a draw would've been fair. None of the teams have really deserved three points, both have had their fair share of chances. Still I'd love to hear why you think they look a different side to when Messi is on. Barcelona has improved considering they haven't really had Messi for big parts and have been strolling in the league until tonight. Problem is Bayern has improved even more Bayern look unstoppable at the moment. I like watching this Barcelona side under Martino, a bit more direct, not that stuck to the tiki-taka, but like last season, that defense needs some reinforcement. Adriano and Montoya had terrible games tonight.

And VI, do you agree with me that this team has looked the same pretty much this whole season, even with Messi in, only thing changing is efficiency in front of goal? They haven't really dominated possession in all games this season and been playing a bit more direct.

Xavi hasn't been himself this season, thought Barcelona has looked better with Iniesta - Fabregas. I'd play Neymar centrally and Pedro and Sanchez either side when Messi's out. Selling Thiago was seriously a terrible decision.

How's the game been?

Just waiting for him to do a Gravesinha, would do my day.

Are we watching the same game? Deserved? Sure Barcelona haven't been good by their standards, but they've been controlling the midfield and had the best chances. Bilbao should've had a defender sent off as well. Give over was it a sending off! Barca have been sloppy, Neymar has been awful, they were caught on the break regularly in first half. Was matter if time before they got punished. Best chance of the game was Bilbao's sitter from 5 yards which he fluffed. Barca just look a different side without Messi, hardly seen Fabregas in the game or Sanchez. Wait a second, bringing someone down when he's through against the goalie isn't a sending off? Also the five yards fluffed chance came after goal so it's irrelevant to your point about them having deserved the goal especially as Barcelona has controlled that midfield and Neymar missed two or three alone with goalkeeper. Have you watched Barcelona with Messi this season? Been pretty much the same side tbf, not too dominant but still creating plenty of chances, difference is Messi puts them in and Neymar isn't. To say they look a different side is pretty ridiculous, only difference is efficiency.

This ref is absolute wank. Dowd would be proud.

Number 2 as well, says it all really.

Are we watching the same game? Deserved? Sure Barcelona haven't been good by their standards, but they've been controlling the midfield and had the best chances. Bilbao should've had a defender sent off as well.

In what ways was it deserved though?

Athletic 1-0. Neymar has missed far too much and Alexis and Cesc haven't even ahd a shot on goal.

Been turd this season under Blanc. Lost his place in the national team and wouldn't be surprised to see him moved from PSG in January.

Really does Unbelievably shit all of them as well. Only time it's decent is when he hasn't done shit to it.

Barcelona hasn't started well, but these two attacks have been absolute world class. Should be 2-0.

What a fucking save from the Bilbao keeper.

Neymar to grab a hattrick.

Turning out to be an ok weekend. 60p. Suarez and Benteke are the obvious disappointments. Terry, Pantiilimon and Ramsey saving me.

Great human being as well.

This Chelsea side is incredibly boring, rather watch us.

1 point behind 2nd at the moment