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We stopped pressing completely. We were actually for once pressing them. Stopped completely after the goal.

Unfortunately, we got a goal and he reverted back to his favourite tactic. Defend at all costs.

I'll be annoyed if we concede just because we have to play at midday to satisfy forrin tv. We really wanted you to play at 7am.

Except for Shola, he doesnt move.

Walker is having a mare.

Cabayes dong.

What more did he do this morning?

Got to agree with the pressing bit here. We're finally trying to press some, but they still can't make a pass right in defence when we aren't pressing. We need to get a second before they wake up.

Iniesta to Messi, tbh.

Tottenham is reminding me of Chelsea last week. Can't make the easiest of passes....

Oh absolutely, my point being is that many countries will vote based purely on ability. So Messi will probably win.

Remy you beautiful man. What a pass from Gouff.

GET THE GFUCK IN!

Shola is the worst footballer in the PL.

What a pass from Cabaye.

So should the other 10 players then I guess. Miller, Suarez and van Persie are all far better footballers than Mandzukic. It's an award based on the year people have had though. He won the treble with an impressive goals to games ratio. Suarez, while brilliant, didnt even play in Europe and was was banned for ten games for biting somebody. It's just an example, but I believe he should be in there. Think there's six Bayern players on the list as it is. It's difficult for defenders to get on the list or the other ten kay well have been there. It's based on footballing ability as well. To a degree. Don't forget Michael Owen won this over the likes of Zidane, Totti and Shevchenko. Not the same prize, that was based purely on some journalists. This is with all the managers and captains of nationals sides as well.

That's the downside to steroids. Only joking before somebody jumps down my throat. The Spanish League is fairly s*** outside the top three so I don't think Ronaldo or Messi would get anywhere near as many goals in Italy or England. Still a lot though. The teams in England and Italy could be just as bad in the main but would rarely be caught on the counter because of playing with a deeper line Still they seem to get twice as much as the PL strikers in the CL...Ronaldo got a shit load in the PL as well didn't he? (30+?? )

So should the other 10 players then I guess. Miller, Suarez and van Persie are all far better footballers than Mandzukic. It's an award based on the year people have had though. He won the treble with an impressive goals to games ratio. Suarez, while brilliant, didnt even play in Europe and was was banned for ten games for biting somebody. It's just an example, but I believe he should be in there. Think there's six Bayern players on the list as it is. It's difficult for defenders to get on the list or the other ten kay well have been there. It's based on footballing ability as well, otherwise they could give the prize to someone who has scored 200goals in some other league and won it all in that country. I think it's hard to argue with that list. The world's two best defenders got on there, Thiago and Lahm, don't see how anyone could come close to getting there.

i understand HBA, i really do, but when anita is on the pitch we're a much better passing team and can hold the ball better which is important against teams like spurs...if we turn possession over to them too often they'll bury us early imo no sense leaving anita out, none whatsoever Not sure what Anita needs to do tbh, he won us the game last week. It's Pardew. He's (Anita) going to leave in January, it's a World Cup year and he is definitely in consideration for the dutch squad as long as he gets playing time.

Meant Liam Miller.

So should the other 10 players then I guess. Miller, Suarez and van Persie are all far better footballers than Mandzukic.

Anita and Ben Arfa on the bench. This is a joke right?

Do people not watch the best team in the world? Ribery has got to be before Ibrahimovic. Ibra hasn't even scored the most in his god damn team, spectacular goals shouldn't win awards. I think CRonaldo or Ribery will get it based on the fact that Messi has been injured a bit. I only included Messi since this is his thread. I'd have Ribery ahead of him this season, but behind Ibra and Ronaldo still. I'm also fairly certain that Ibra has scored the most for PSG this season. He scored another hat trick yesterday and has quite a few in Europe so far. I think the Ballon d'Or will go to Ribery since it's heavily influenced by honours. The biggest surprise for me with that award is that Mandzukic didn't even receive a nomination despite being superb for Bayern. Not sure what went on there. Mandzukic? Get the f*** outta here. Stopped reading at Mand... Very good player, but one of the worlds absolute best? Agree with the sentiment Tooj.