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                            Krul

 

            Mbiwa        Taylor        Colo

Debuchy                                        Santon

                Cabaye            Anita

    Marv                                      Gouffran

                            Cisse

The worst part is that it could and should work

http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20130123/yanga-mbiwa-impressed-by-managers-vision_2281670_3050170

 

Yanga-Mbiwa is confident that Newcastle's fortunes will improve in the weeks - and months - ahead.

 

"The manager wants to build a very strong, solid team and he wants the team to play as well as possible," the French international defender told nufc.co.uk. "I think that's one of the reasons he wants me there: to build a stronger team.

"He also explained he wants to close the gap on the top four, and I think that's one of the reasons why he wanted me to come so I can help him to achieve those objectives."

 

 

Strange reaction. What's up fella?

 

Well do you think Pardew got what is take to make us a top 4 club, or close to that? And if so, how can we be were we are right now after the last season success? A top manager should be able to pick up results even without the "best eleven", because I think it´s a fact that you in football always will get injuries.

 

Alternatively, you could take it that the negativity in the press is not what Pardew is portraying to the players, and that despite our lowly position we are still aiming high and attracting players who you could well see turning out for the clubs we are hoping to chase.

 

Hey I agree that we've been s***, and Pardew has done little to inspire much belief going forward this season, but I don't see the need to mine negatives from every other interview. We have been trying to play better football but then when the doubts creep in, we fall back into our more desperate habits. Hopefully these new lads will give the team and Pardew the confidence to push on and start looking up again.

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with this and this is especially impressive.

I understand what you mean and maybe we should give Pardew another chance now when he has good players to use the second half of the season. I´m just so pissed off with all the talk etc etc when you can clearly see what happens on the pitch. I´m still pissed off with Ashley for sacking Hughton to bring in Pardew. I know Hughton isn´t a world beater, but he is still as good as Pardew, at least. There was no need for a chance. I know this isn´t Pardew´s fault, but it still makes it easier to have a go at him.

But Ok. I should try and give Pardew the rest of the season. But if there is no improvement, then thats it.

It doesn't matter what anyone's cut off point is, because he won't be sacked. It's simply not going to happen. For what it's worth, I do agree that our form this season is enough to get any manager of a semi-aspirational club the sack. However, I think there have been enough extenuating circumstances contributing to that form to allow him a period of grace, until the end of the season. I don't think we'll go down, and next season will be a real acid test of where we are with Pardew. If he continues to be s****, then it's time to go. It's not as if the players we are buying are 'his' players either, so it should be a less complicated transition.

 

Most of this and fwiw, without European competition next season, we'll most likely see a pick up in PL results.

 

Without it we can get back to that goal of qualifying Europe.

 

to Dave and Inochi too.

I can see the logic in there posts. But still it doesn´t make them "true" in the sense that we will be a top club because Ashley won´t sack him or because Pardew will get the team to play better football because he got better players. It´s still the same Pardew next year as the one that have put us in the shit this season, and it´s almost the same Pardew that got sacked from Charlton, West Ham and Southampton.

We´ll see whats happen but I still have the believe that Pardew will always get fewer points with this club then we could have. With good players we may compete in the middle of the table, or close to top 8, but it won´t be him that takes us to another level.

http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20130123/yanga-mbiwa-impressed-by-managers-vision_2281670_3050170

 

Yanga-Mbiwa is confident that Newcastle's fortunes will improve in the weeks - and months - ahead.

 

"The manager wants to build a very strong, solid team and he wants the team to play as well as possible," the French international defender told nufc.co.uk. "I think that's one of the reasons he wants me there: to build a stronger team.

"He also explained he wants to close the gap on the top four, and I think that's one of the reasons why he wanted me to come so I can help him to achieve those objectives."

 

 

Strange reaction. What's up fella?

Well do you think Pardew got what is take to make us a top 4 club, or close to that? And if so, how can we be were we are right now after the last season success? A top manager should be able to pick up results even without the "best eleven", because I think it´s a fact that you in football always will get injuries.

Think I wrote the worst post ever don´t understand a thing either

What I mean though is that it would be idiotic to let him go because with Colo and Mbwia we now possible have the best cb pairing the club ever has had. Add a really good back up cb in Saylor too.

He looks massive for a rb/lb.

After seeing the video maybe not

He looks massive for a rb/lb.

http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20130123/yanga-mbiwa-impressed-by-managers-vision_2281670_3050170

Yanga-Mbiwa is confident that Newcastle's fortunes will improve in the weeks - and months - ahead.

 

"The manager wants to build a very strong, solid team and he wants the team to play as well as possible," the French international defender told nufc.co.uk. "I think that's one of the reasons he wants me there: to build a stronger team.

"He also explained he wants to close the gap on the top four, and I think that's one of the reasons why he wanted me to come so I can help him to achieve those objectives."

We have now the best cb ever, there is no way we are going Colo to go! But if he is. How many of you thinks that we are going to replace him with another cb in the summer

We will always have problems to win since Pardew always go "super defense" directly after we get the lead

Credit where credits due

We end January with

Debuchy

Mbiwa

Gouffran

Haidara

Sissoko

 

Then a "Ashley " would not be out of order

Six months too late to warrant licking his arse.

 

This - all Ashley is doing is trying to save his ar-e by avoiding relegation...something we shouldn't even have been thinking about after last season's efforts.

If he's done the right thing in Summer, all this panic buying may not have been necessary.

 

Wait until the start of next season before you start 'being grateful' for having a football club.

We got fucking Pardew as a manager. While he is here I won´t hold any player as responsible for there eventually bad form.

Going to have a big job on his hands integrating all these new signings (if they come off) in to the team given that they're all youngish & have no experience of the PL. I'm sure it'll be a problem he'll welcome unlike the others though. Be amazed if French didn't become the onfield language given these lads will, I assume, not have much English.

Don´t give him more excuses

How took that photo? Worse than the paparazzi photographs

81 pages on this thread! must be a new record for a new player?

 

Err I take it you never saw the Ben Arfa thread?

Wasn´t that like 600 pages

Injuries don't explain why we were playing s**** with a fully fit squad.

 

Injuries don't explain why our players wander around the pitch like 11 strangers at a bad party.

 

Injuries don't explain why we constantly play negatively and try to shut up shop.

 

Injuries don't explain why we haven't scored from a corner since dinosaurs roamed the earth.

 

Injuries don't explain why we are utterly incapable of coming back if we go a goal down.

 

At the end of the transfer window one man was insistent he was happy with the squad he had at his disposal.  Well, guess what, we were right and you were wrong.  Now p*ss off and let us get a manager who will get our players playing to their potential.

 

:clap:

Look at that back line Also add an old Solano, Dyer and Butt with Sibierski at top. No matter how bad Spurs were, how on earth did we win I remember that game though. Martins thunder

The thing that depresses me most is I can't get too excited about all these good signings as the manager is so incompetent and is taking us towards the championship

This. Though with the signings we should be able to stay up, but that would be just purely on the quality of the players, nothing else. Though Pardew would still be seen as a hero with comments like "told you so" by some that got their heads so high up in there asses it´s not even funny (note: not referring to anyone in here)

My worry is what will happen after this windows spend if we stay up, who will he sell in the summer to recoup the money.

 

Exactly this, and Stu the problem has always been that we go "one for one". That if we buy one we sell one and that has made our squad so small with no competition. Purple players - ha.

even then (as now i guess) he'll sell if he gets the right price. his buying since we came back up has never been so much on price as value (even more so if the current transfer rumours are true)

 

From what I can see, it looks like you're right about 'one in, one out' when it comes to these 'purple' first XI players - it's just a shame that Danny Simpson and Steven Taylor were considered 'purple' (or at least sufficiently capable/reliable while we waited between Sept and Jan for the window to reopen). Doesn't look like there's a limit insomuch as buying youth/younger prospects i.e. Amalafitano, Bigirimana, Abeid, etc. If they're available on a free/reasonably cheap and we can snap them up, looks like we're going for it.

 

The issue this season has been the noticeable drop-off between the first XI (on paper) and the younger/less experienced players being called up to support them. Having been burnt by the likes of Alan Smith on a $60kpw 5year deal, it seems as though we're not paying for 'first team ready' players unless they're going straight into the team.

 

Ideally, they'll soon understand that we need at least 15 first team top-8 Premiership players in the squad, with a combination of cheaper back-ups (Shola, Williamson, etc.) blended with some promising younger players (Bigi, Amalafitano, Abeid) to be drip-fed first XI experience over the course of the season, not just when we face an injury crisis. They're only going to learn by experience, seeing as they're deaf to the fans and critics alike - no doubt something that has been previously successful in other areas of their life.

 

The under-21 squad should be completely separate, with the likes of Good, Campbell and Streete out on loan, rather than in our matchday 18 (unless it's the cups/end of season).

It´s great in theory and I have for a long time warmly talked about this. But from this summer I have just given up, I don´t trust him to ever really care or get this together. Now with Pardew it´s really no idea either because he will never fulfill our potential.

I think we are so close to be run in the "perfect" way. We just need an owner with a little bit more interest in our success and a competent manager/coach. Right now we aren´t there and I think that Ashley never will take us to the heights we could even if we got to fifth place last year. Honestly don´t ask me why, but I guess everyone can fly for a summer.

No way should we let him go, not now or in the summer, the only way is if they pay what he is worth. Still this makes him feel like a twat. Why the hell would he sign a contract extension and then just do this? Makes no sense at all.

My worry is what will happen after this windows spend if we stay up, who will he sell in the summer to recoup the money.

Exactly this, and Stu the problem has always been that we go "one for one". That if we buy one we sell one and that has made our squad so small with no competition. Purple players - ha.

We should appoint a random Argentine manager.

 

MAGADONA IN!

Not jumping ahead now, but if you know what you want and do your homework I really don´t understand why it has to be a well known person.

But just to add. Should we bring in the names we are rumored to have made bids on we would have done a great window. Make that another window in the summer with a new manager coming in. That would be something. Not holding my breath though.

 

We'll have mad some great signings if they come off, but will we have enough goals without Ba?

 

That's a good question. Aside from Cisse and the odd spectacular goal from Cisse who else is going to chip in with some goals. Obviously I'd say HBA is a threat when he gets back too but we definitely need another option.

But I´m including a forward in this "good window" concept

But just to add. Should we bring in the names we are rumored to have made bids on we would have done a great window. Make that another window in the summer with a new manager coming in. That would be something. Not holding my breath though.