ATB

It doens matter what players we have, what formations we play or if we "go for it" or not. Because it´s not were the problem lies.

At least the rot has stopped albeit with an awful team performance. Really hope Colo stays put so we can really start working as a team with a consistent team in place.

10. I'm a 10. f***ing hell. We're doomed!

Reading level

 

Reading ahead.

they were losing pretty bad berfore.

It doesn´t matter how it goes in this match because we are so bad it´s unreal under Pardew. Pardew and his crew has taken us to a stage were we are ok with mid table and happy to beat relegation. Hurry. f*** off now.

 

Isn't that where we were when he took over?

You could at least see improvements. Now it just get from worse to worse. Besides I would say it matter now.

Unless Pardew is openly lying about his passing intentions, I can only surmise that he simply doesn't trust Williamson to be able to pass it, so he tells him to hoof it.

He could play it short to a team mate surly? Beside it´s not that every other player in the team is hoofing it either.

Can you be any worse than him? And still the club has no interest at all to replace him in any transfer window.

It doesn´t matter how it goes in this match because we are so bad it´s unreal under Pardew. Pardew and his crew has taken us to a stage were we are ok with mid table and happy to beat relegation. Hurry. Fuck off now.

Demba Ba at Chelsea

My god, our FBs, our FBs oh my god

Because we got Danger Ranger!

Can really see QPR getting out of the s***, sadly.

Was always going to be the case with Harry.

Depressing seeing Tottenham doing so well.

 

Less depressing now that Harry has gone, I like AVB.

Yeah, but you could only hope that it was us. They were after all our rivals last year

Had a crazy dream about him were he set up the winning goal for us in a way not even Messi would have managed The only problem - Carroll scored...

Depressing seeing Tottenham doing so well.

It´s a really complex question.

From the clubs point of view we just can´t let him go. For me it would mean relegation because even if we needed one in the last four windows not one CB has come in, without Colo we would need at least two of really good quality.

From Colo´s, and a human (if she is as seriously ill as it sounds) of course he should go.

The complex situation in this is that he is under contract and I don´t think you just can give him away or pay him wages. If he just can´t stand being here either a club has to buy him for a market value, we freeze his contract and he can´t play for someone else or someone loans him.

My main point in this is though. We can´t be without him and he has a contract. Maybe the best is to keep him and then maybe let him go home for visits at times we can.

How cares? We are doomed anyway

I don´t even think we have used all of the "Carroll-money".

I get a bit exasperated when people complain about a lack of quality in depth, an unwillingness to splash more cash and other things that are simply the lot of clubs at our stage of development. Someone complained earlier, in effect, that we weren't geared up to challenge for top honours because we didn't have quality backup in every position. Well no, you divvy. We got promoted and now we're trying to build a quality side using the club's own profits so it's going to take a while and in the meantime we'll be vulnerable to injuries and losses of form just like everyone else. When you complain that we didn't just lash out a bit more money and a few bonuses to get Debuchy in the summer, or complain that we can't withstand injuries to Cabaye and Ben Arfa, you might as well just go ahead and complain that we're not in the Champions League. We are a work in progress, obviously.

 

I get annoyed at people rolling their eyes in advance and writing off the transfer window too, when everything the club are doing and everything its personnel are saying indicates we're trying very hard to sign players and have every intention of doing so. So, so much pointless pessimism on here

 

I've moved past anger and into acceptance now.

 

It's easy to fall back on 'we are Newcastle, we should be challenging' for everything, but even if you agree with that you can't just leap from where we are now to that ideal situation.

That may be true but it also says a lot of what the people, that especially you two are supporting the most, has done to us.

So I suppose I'd tend to back Ian W to an extent. Perhaps go a little further and speculate, to the possible agreement of Interpolic, that it is possible that all of this stems from something as trivial as a debate over whether or not to accommodate Demba Ba. I think a couple of injuries and a nagging issue or two like that really can be enough to tip a team over the edge. And when those couple of injuries include the two key creative reference points in your side... Problems.

 

As you'll possibly have noticed by now, I'm a lot more pro-Ashley and pro-Pardew than most because I see signs of what I think is exactly the right way to run a football club emerging after years of embarrassing Shepherd madness, and I'm loath to write that prospect off until the grim death because it is exactly what the club has been crying out for for a long, long time. I'll forgive a run of shitty form, a dud transfer window, a bit of hoofball, a baffling decision and even a slightly uninspirational manager quite happily if it means we end up a soundly-run, upwardly mobile outfit in a few years and I can see it happening. Look at the calibre of our best XI for Christ's sake. If we somehow get it wrong and go down I'll be heartbroken because it will most likely be ripped apart but I think if you can't see that this administration is our best chance for ages at being a proper club you need your head checking. Whatever they're doing wrong, they're doing a lot right. I'm waffling and my pint is getting warm so cheers

Yeah me too. But we have an owner that just don´t care about the success, and a manager that just isn´t good enough to take us to the top. That makes it all even more frustrating because I agree that in many ways we do have a good structure. We would just need a owner that would care a little bit more, and a manager that is a little bit better.

People need to realise that Pards can't ever say what he really thinks.

 

And also that 99% of managers are the same. Fergie is possibly the only exception and you've seen the results of that.

Yeah a pretty good results

We need a proper back left back, well competition for Santon. As a young lad he will have bad spells such as now, he needs a few games out to regain confidence, unlike now where his confidence is taking a battering playing poorly in a poor team.

Ashley doesn´t do "competition for places".

We are in shocking form, they are in bad form, it's not going to be a classic. Think that will suit us though and we might be able to grind out a result with a bit of magic from someone.

Pardew?

Season starts here.

No. It started for 6 month ago!

I know what you means. But comments like that still "grinds my gears" in that we have thrown away so much since last season.