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What did you believe we could achieve under Hughton though?

Probably not much. But sacking him for Pardew was just a side way move. I was loving the spirit, we played to our strength and it was just a great time. there was no way he should have been sacked. at least he should have got the first season.

Again. Pardew was not the man to come in after he went. We should have got a more proven manager. I´m still convinced that the only reason he came was that he and Ashley somehow has a connection. I just can believe anything else.

I simply don't buy this argument now oh we were in the championship 3 years ago now so we should be grateful for just being in the premier league with s**** performances all season.

 

Don't think anyone's saying that. They're just arguing that our recent achievements should buy the management some credit.

He took over a team with great team spirit and a team that was playing great with the team we had. It was a super year last year. I can´t explain it any better than that everything when our way. But still, we wasn´t playing great and had a lot of luck. To be true, more than plenty of it.

Just want to say that he can f*** OFF.

 

Can´t believe that after all this people is still playing the "give him the time" card The small squad is something Ashley has to take the most of the blame, but that we are playing like this because of injuries and a small squad We didn´t play better when everyone was available.

 

Still can´t believe that people is laughing at the comparison of him and our other so called "managers", I said that month ago. What exactly is Pardew doing better?

 

I wouldn´t be happy. But he could at least admit that he is a bad manager that can´t teach a team to play offensive, that he likes to play it long and sit back, and that Ashley won´t give him any money. The truth should feel so much better than this lying show.

 

I can´t even get angry anymore when we won´t win. Because it´s so obvious and it has gone so far that I just can´t feel anything I´m worried. I´m worried that we will get relegated again

 

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I still think he has bought himself time with last seasons finish of 5th.

 

Not sure if our football will improve, or depends on what your definition of football is.

 

We wont go down, we'll bobble aout picking up points and will be safe...

 

IF he carries on like this and we are dropping more home points then I think the sword will fall, as much as Pardew is their man, they are a pair of ruthless buggers.

 

He's just been given an 8 year deal. The club want stability and I'm absolutely certain that unless there's a genuine threat of relegation he'll remain in post and rightly so. Chopping and changing managers has never been conducive to good results, particularly at NUFC.

 

The worst thing Pardew could've done was finish fifth last season. People seem to have forgotten we were a Championship side three years ago.

 

We were playing in the Championship, but our team definitely wasn't.

 

It was bad enough to get relegated to it, it was a Championship team.

It makes our form even worse.

I still brings this up. But sacking Hughton for Pardew was just a stupid and unmotivated move. I would love stability. But I want that with a manager that I believe in. I don´t believe in Pardew.

Just want to say that he can FUCK OFF.

Can´t believe that after all this people is still playing the "give him the time" card The small squad is something Ashley has to take the most of the blame, but that we are playing like this because of injuries and a small squad We didn´t play better when everyone was available.

Still can´t believe that people is laughing at the comparison of him and our other so called "managers", I said that month ago. What exactly is Pardew doing better?

I wouldn´t be happy. But he could at least admit that he is a bad manager that can´t teach a team to play offensive, that he likes to play it long and sit back, and that Ashley won´t give him any money. The truth should feel so much better than this lying show.

I can´t even get angry anymore when we won´t win. Because it´s so obvious and it has gone so far that I just can´t feel anything I´m worried. I´m worried that we will get relegated again

Gabriele Marcotti ‏@Marcotti

With hindsight, reckon Shakthar didn't do too much to stop 2nd Norsjaelland goal (w/out being too obvious).

8:22 PM - 20 Nov 12

Don´t think so. Shakthars goal is just a disgrace.

Great energy from West Ham.

If your team is depending on Nolan, your team has problem.

So you are saying that it´s ok that we haven´t scored a goal, or even coming close, to score a corner more than 1 years ago?

 

Shola should have buried a header against West Ham tbf...

Nice a good corner, and it ends up at Shola

Seriously though, it's beyond embarrassing the way we are handling the set pieces.

Don´t think so. But after we got relegated a few years ago I wouldn´t say that it´s impossible, especially not the way we are playing now.

 

I'm worried about our form too, but a lot of stuff that is a symptom of poor results, injuries, suspensions and a hangover from a brilliant season are being put down as permanent flaws IMO. The manager and the team have earned the time to turn things around.

 

Don't agree with that. The way we are playing is permanent flaws imo, flaws that were pointed out last season when we were winning and flaws that are now exposed partly because of the thins you mention but also because our top players aren't having those moments of individual brilliance that happened so often last season.

 

We have a fairly solid defence usually but that's about it, little to no movement going forward, far too many players either not aware of what they should be doing or not in suitable positions and also a tendency to start games very slowly.

 

I agree that the suspensions, injuries etc haven't helped but there are fundamental problems on the field, problems that have been lurking for ages regardless of our position last season.

So many excuses. You could see from game 1 that Pardew wasn´t interesting in playing "good football". And I agree. Even if we had a fantastic season last year I can´t agree that we was that good.

We are not playing better football with our "star" players. We just have more individuality quality that makes us able to make wounder goals.

Oh, the bad form for players like Cissé, Tioté, Cabaye etc etc can´t be a coincident. I think Pardew has A LOT to do with it.

I have been reading a lot of stuff today that I can´t agree with for one bit.

So you are saying that it´s ok that we haven´t scored a goal, or even coming close, to score a corner more than 1 years ago?

btw. Are none going to be calling me names again because I compared this with Roeders time and that I can´t see Pardew turn this around a few weeks ago. Pathetic.

What an upgrade on a young, improving and likable Hughton who was steering us comfortably through the season though eh :lol:

Pardew is funny. First none can move from their position, now every player is everywhere I like it though. It´s the right direction

Think the setup to this game is the best for a very long time.

If we don´t see anything other than 4-4-2, then Pardew is a real idiot.

 

I don't want us to play our usual 4-4-2 but Sammy in there gives us a bit of hope.  He's quick and young enough to run all day so he could be playing in a more attacking midfielder type role linking up the play.  With HBA and Fergie getting forward and attacking the flanks it might work well and be a bit more fluid than our normal 4-4-2.

 

Still a little worried about us being outnumbered in the centre again but in Tiote and Anita we have a couple of midfielders who can get around the pitch.

wrote completely opposite to what I meant... Sammy isn´t a center forward, he can´t play along side Ba at the top with us playing it long.

If we don´t see anything other than 4-4-2, then Pardew is a real idiot.

Of course you don´t have to play for your country

Tottenham has to try and play if they should get anything from this.

Right decision, bad for the game though.

1-0 to the 4-4-2

1-0....

 

Are you trying to say something? For me it´s not only what formation you play, it´s how you play in it.

 

Which is why I don't get the whole 4-4-2/4-3-3 debate.

Aye. Think we should enjoy this match instead of arguing this

1-0 to the 4-4-2

1-0....

Are you trying to say something? For me it´s not only what formation you play, it´s how you play in it.

Give him a chance, he's said that he's recognised the problem, he might come up with an answer.  I'm not too bothered about what he says, I'm more interested in his actions.

 

It's a fair point.

You could argue that he already has got his chance. He´s been here 2 years now and for what I can tell his gone backwards the last 6 months. That´s not the sign for me that he will turn anything around no matter the reasons to it. I think there is no coming back.

According to French sources he is being used as bait to get Remy?

 

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