Sifu

I understand what you mean but it depend what kind of football you want. When you speak about PL managers fearings, sorry but we can take Redknapp for example - I'm not even talking about Sir Alex - I don't think he would hesitate between Marveaux and Jonas, or HBA and Best - with all my respects to Jonas and Best Newcastle this season has all the ability to play beautiful football and everybody know that you have more chances to win if you play well, in the opponent's camp. With all due respect hatem garrincha, I don't think you've seen much of our games to truly see what Gutierrez offers us when he's in the side. Yes, his end product is a little lacking but his defensive work, his dribbling and his ability to retain possession are indispensable at the moment. From what I've seen of Marveaux, he looks like a fantastic player and I would like to see him in the side sooner rather than later. But personally Jonas is a definite starter. I saw a lot of your games last season and all the games since the start of season. But you all give me same arguments concerning Jonas. My answer will not change : in terms of dribbling and retaining possession, Marveaux is largely superior... Defensive Work ? A winger should play his defensive role of course but it's definitively not another left back in my (very little) opinion. Maybe Pardew has your. I feel that you're a lot biased towards Marveaux and you're entitled to be because you've seen a lot of him. Though I think you are really undervaluing Jonas' abilities/importance to the team at the moment.

I understand what you mean but it depend what kind of football you want. When you speak about PL managers fearings, sorry but we can take Redknapp for example - I'm not even talking about Sir Alex - I don't think he would hesitate between Marveaux and Jonas, or HBA and Best - with all my respects to Jonas and Best Newcastle this season has all the ability to play beautiful football and everybody know that you have more chances to win if you play well, in the opponent's camp. With all due respect hatem garrincha, I don't think you've seen much of our games to truly see what Gutierrez offers us when he's in the side. Yes, his end product is a little lacking but his defensive work, his dribbling and his ability to retain possession are indispensable at the moment. From what I've seen of Marveaux, he looks like a fantastic player and I would like to see him in the side sooner rather than later. But personally Jonas is a definite starter.

Unsurprising really.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15144508.stm

A bit of both I reckon, the lad has been out for a year so I'm thinking the plan is to ease him back into the side. However in the meantime, Pardew will probably argue that the side he's putting out now has been doing well for him/given the club a fantastic start so why change a "proven formula" so to speak. Relating to your last sentence about Ben Arfa, I reckon this is very likely.

Szcesney should have done better there.

Oh dear indeed.

McClaren has to go now like? £2m payoff might say otherwise according to the rags. Ah, I see...

McClaren has to go now like?

Good on him.

More than likely imo.

Brilliant stuff.

It's f***ing horrific, absolutely disgusting voice.

Probably, was funny like

Moving up the table, 39th now.

Definite starter for me. No doubt.

This seems to be the plan but as Prophet has said, it's really difficult to drop anyone at the moment. Quite a dilemma to have....

Indeed.

And in such a system, where would you put Ben arfa ? In the number 10 role. This would mean that we would have to drop one of our strikers at some point.

At the moment, Jonas is a definite starter for me. Like some people have said, the only player who might be dropped from this side is Obertan (I'd still keep him in for the time being like.... ), so Marveaux could come in at some point and Jonas will be moved to the right. A reasonable change like. I'd like to think that Ben Arfa could start against Spurs but guess it's still the case of easing him back into the side. We'll definitely see Hatem at some point against them though.

Was wondering, how do you see the season going for you? Horrendous start to the campaign.