Unbelievable

How do you define "struggle" samag? Have us firmly rooted in the bottom three?

Yet this is where they played mostly before they joined us and for their respective countries. Presumably this is also where they took our eye and decided to move for them. I just don't understand why we feel the need to play our two best central midfielders on the wings. I'm fairly certain if we lined up like this in midfield we would look an awful lot stronger for it, both defensively and in attack: Perez Thauvin Wijnaldum Sissoko Tiote/new DM

Fuck knows, but even if we haven't, can you blame Graham Carr for the fact that we have let someone like Ben Arfa go for free, or Santon for peanuts? He recommends players, he does not decide who we buy, let alone how they are used or what they are sold for.

He spent £50 million in the summer. And he's restricted to looking for mercenaries we can potentially sell on for a profit. He's the least of our worries. he is the main problem. Any manger would struggle with this squad, he has had plenty of time to get a half decent balanced squad. instead we have a squad packed with players not good enough or always injured. He needs to take his share of the blame for this he takes a share of the blame, sure, but then given what you know about the way ashley runs the club what on earth makes you think it's anything other than seeking bargains and potential sell on value that dictates which of the targets we go for? we've been linked with plenty of players over the last 4-5 years that could be top class but we'd never ever pay the money to get them How many players has he found and sold on for big profits ? most are simply not good enough . Not arguing the point how Ashley runs the club, Just the fact Carr comes up with more crap than anything else.. Said before say it again any manager would Struggle with the squad Carr has given him. Absolutely do not agree with your final point especially, nor your overall conclusion that Carr bears most of the blame. I reserve that for Ashley and his balance sheet monkey who really decide who we buy. so you are saying most managers would not struggle with our Midfield. Ginger Jack and his mate are a joke. we have no decent fit wingers. our defence cannot keep clean sheets. The players are not good enough ... I think a good manager would be able to forge something more than we're seeing from Sissoko, Wijnaldum, Anita, Thauvin, Perez, Mitrovic & Aarons yes. There's others not mentioned that could probably be coaxed to contribute more under good management but we don't have good management. Certainly more than 17 f***ing points after 19 games. The squad is poor but I slated Pardew and Carver for their inability to get the most out of what they were given and I'm not giving McClaren a pass for the same thing. Not one player has improved since he arrived, in fact he's arguably managed to regress more than one first team player since turning up. Spot on.

The latter two were definitely on his radar, and mentioned before they hit the big time too, but as always we went in low and the other club just laughed in our face. That's why we got someone like Riviere, not because he was first choice by any means but because he was all we were willing to shell out for. Edit: according to this so was Payet: http://metro.co.uk/2013/06/19/arsenal-eye-lille-forward-dimitri-payet-as-gervinho-replacement-3847442/

Get out the lube for this one I reckon. Not sure if I want to witness this massacre.

He does need to take his share of the blame for our failure, especially since he was apparently the one pushing hard for his mate McClaren, but there is no way Graham Carr is the main problem and removing him will solve all or most of our problems. Our squad is unbalanced and hardly fit for purpose, but Graham Carr does not determine our transfer strategy, he just executes part of it. He's a glorified chief scout, tasked with finding players with a financial upside. As far as I am concerned I've long believed he was the only thing remotely acceptable at the club, as he did for a while find good players for decent fees, but since he's moved up to the DoF role our squad has actually become weaker and less balanced and we put our fate in the hands of one incompetent manager after another who were incapable of getting the best out of the players he recommended, and he has to take his share of the blame for that. Ultimately though, there is only one man ultimately responsible for hiring duds who have hired more duds who have hired more duds, and that man has actually confirmed so himself.

Well, we got six in one home game

We're getting more consistent. Really!?

He's 25 He'd be a young kid to Mick if he was 55.

There's someone on their forum who would swap him for Colback. I would take that deal like, but it doesn't bode well really

The lot need to go. The entire club needs gutting.

Yeah, it's far from ideal but let's not give way to such melodramatic s****, man. The club is far from dying. Depends on what you see the club as. The institution will no doubt remain long after its soul has gone.

Sounds like Shelvey is your typical MOTD player who will do something spectacular one game then disappear for the next 19. Fans who watch every game know best usually...

We stood toe to toe with West Brom ffs. You'd think we'd just played Bayern, Barcelona or Real Madrid and got a result.

The club is dying in front of our very eyes and not a single fan cares enough to fight for its survival these days. We're the frog sitting in the pan as the water reaches boiling temperature.

Like a fucking broken record

If we play like this all season we'll be absolutely fine lads.

Yes, supposedly

I'm miles behind, but Darlow

Fucking rugby tackle that

Aye, def pen that