Unbelievable

Well, it can be apparently. What those that were there are saying suggests the performance was every bit as bad as the result.

Look up. ^ Ah, this is from Ron's profile? Didn't even know that feature existed. Ron man

Aye finished 3rd last year. Ouch. Could get akward

Is Gladbach any good ? Wouldn't be surprised if a decent Bundesliga side put four or five past us to finish off as shambolic a pre season as you'll ever see.

Where's Dummett been anyway?

I do, what is the URL? http://www.wedstrijdhistorie.nl/Clubs/Feyenoord/13-11-2002/Feyenoord-Newcastle.United/ Looks like that would still work.

Player A FFS. Are York trialing Messi?

Helps to improve the match fitness and defensive understanding of players that aren't playing. Breeds confidence too

My God

Why?

You think he is first choice?

Full backs yes, but central defenders? Only Mike Williamson has probably seen enough minutes to be theoretically considered "match fit"...

If pre season is not about results, not about performances, not about players getting to know a new system/each other and not even about match fitness then I don't know why we bother with it at all. Just offer the players three and a half months off in return for a 20% salary decrease and be done with it.

As if it makes a difference, none of the four will be near the match day squad matter about the starting eleven I haven't paid too much attention, but has Colo even featured a minute in pre season games? And that Mbemba kid, has he featured for Anderlecht in pre season at all? Has Saylor seen significant pitch time? How are our starting central defenders supposed to be match fit vs Southampton? Even if you accept the performances and results don't matter in the slightest, the only remaining reason for preseason is improving match fitness. It's embarrassing. Quite. I can't see our team (defence especially) come out for the start of this season with any kind of match fitness or an understanding how they are to function as a defensive unit. Bodes well with the tough list of fixtures we have at the start of the season. Our season could once again effectively be over by October.

As if it makes a difference, none of the four will be near the match day squad matter about the starting eleven I haven't paid too much attention, but has Colo even featured a minute in pre season games? And that Mbemba kid, has he featured for Anderlecht in pre season at all? Has Saylor seen significant pitch time? How are our starting central defenders supposed to be match fit vs Southampton? I haven't watched a game but from what i gather Haidara and Janmaat have pretty much played every game, Williamson has played a lot and Taylor has played enough where as Colo hasn't played a minute. It's a mess no doubt, seeing as Colo isn't fit and Mbemba has been delayed due to Visa requirements but what happens tonight isn't going to change any of that positively or negatively. Agreed. Point is, it should have changed positively. Has Colo been spotted around the training ground? Just seems really odd that our captain and leading central defenders hasn't even featured in pre season and we are 90 minutes away from our first league game (after tonight's game)...

As if it makes a difference, none of the four will be near the match day squad matter about the starting eleven I haven't paid too much attention, but has Colo even featured a minute in pre season games? And that Mbemba kid, has he featured for Anderlecht in pre season at all? Has Saylor seen significant pitch time? How are our starting central defenders supposed to be match fit vs Southampton?

Where is our first team though?

Looking forward to see if Louis plays like a white Obertan

That defense How long before our first competitive game?

I do, what is the URL?

That was at 7-1 presumably? The defenders barely moved