Unbelievable

True but RvP wouldn't offer that either. My thinking was I think Argentina are very susceptible to a set piece and will be liable to concede a lot of FKs in the middle/final third. If fit Van persie will no doubt play. My point was if he isn't, it's not a given that Huntelaar will replace him. Could be Lens or Depay again.

Sort it out Raj!

We don't need arial strength tonight, we need pace on the break.

So it still hasnt updated yours, but it has everyone else? I couldn't tell you if it's (correctly) updated everone else's, but it's certainly not updated mine at all. I'm on 619 atm.

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This was a German team without Gotze and Reus too. Devastating.

There go our chances of reaching the final then..

What's the ref going to do? Send him off?

Tim will come one again tonight for penalties if it gets to that and there is a sub available according to Van Gaal.

Fingers crossed he makes it, because we have a much better chance with him sitting deep breaking up play. One of the best in the business in what he does. Vlaar also a major doubt for tonight, and Van Persie and Janmaat have been ill the last couple of days.

Absolutely gutted about how my last minute decisions worked out. Took Mueller and Kroos out.

What are your thoughts on Hiddink building on van Gaal's good work? Very excited about the prospect of Hiddink taking over from Van Gaal. I think he will have us playing better football, and the experience these young players gained this month will be invaluable. Danny Blind for Russia 2018 though

Scolari thinks he can stick it out until the 2018 World Cup

Did you catch anything lately, mate?

Good to see you're still alive Flip, taking the bants and dishing out. I can only imagine what it must have been like to see that scenario unfold as a Brazilian inside the stadium.

I wouldn't pay too much attention to the table just yet. It says I'm 14th on 559, which was the same I started the day with. I'm actually on 616.

Has to be done http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php?action=profile;u=425

Sour grapes a lot mate? Sour grapes for who? I'm English. You seem to hate Germany and Holland with a passion

Eh? I wanted a contest, or a brilliant thrashing because of unbelievable football. That was something else that I've never seen at that level. That was a team playing football (not amazing football, just football) against an absolute embarrassment of a team. It wasn't fun in the same way that there's no satisfaction out of playing Fifa on Amateur and winning 7-1. It reminded me of us as well, which is never good. Eh?

Has to be done

Sour grapes a lot mate?

Thank God for that