Unbelievable

57 with Hazard © and Ivanovic to play. Still not in the N-O league top 100..

Voetbal International are running with a Daily Mail (I know) story of a rejected 12 million euros bid from AC Milan, saying we are holding out for 25 million. Surely not... Source: http://www.vi.nl/achtergronden/Transferdagboek-1/234213/Transferdagboek-1601-Beckham-Krul-en-Mourinho.htm

Makes pretty grim reading that. The text of the report suggests that that was in the Championship. The year before that you were 63rd, which would have been about a 40Kpw average. What text? I think the figures are from the 2010/11 season, when we were back up. Swiss Ramble (http://swissramble.blogspot.nl/2012/03/newcastle-united-life-in-northern-town.html) has roughly the same figures: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GD4P0rhmO2w/T2hAJj3JJmI/AAAAAAAAFcg/sXBXt61En_Q/s400/23%2BNewcastle%2BWages%2BLeague.jpg That's because that's from the 2009-10 season as well. f*** me, unbelievable. Aye, amended my post as just noticed the note at the bottom. I seriously doubt it is currently much lower though, especially with Ba gone. Will be interesting to see the nest set of accounts with regards to this. Edit: Actually, is that not just the ones with a star next to them? I'm confusing myself now.. Edit2: I don't think it is you know.. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ovdX3eWmlZU/T2g9Xwt5xRI/AAAAAAAAFZg/7yhcd0ftCKM/s400/7%2BNewcastle%2BProfit.jpg

Makes pretty grim reading that. The text of the report suggests that that was in the Championship. The year before that you were 63rd, which would have been about a 40Kpw average. What text? I think the figures are from the 2010/11 season, when we were back up. Swiss Ramble (http://swissramble.blogspot.nl/2012/03/newcastle-united-life-in-northern-town.html) has roughly the same figures: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GD4P0rhmO2w/T2hAJj3JJmI/AAAAAAAAFcg/sXBXt61En_Q/s400/23%2BNewcastle%2BWages%2BLeague.jpg Edit:noticed note at bottom of pic. Will be interesting to see what the current wage total is. Doubt it is much higher.

Makes pretty grim reading that. Well, we're 13th in the wage table and 19th in the transfer fees table, so I guess our current position in the Premiership table is just about right for our spending. In all seriousness, we couldn't sustain our ludicrous spending under Shepherd, but we seem to have completely gone the other way with Ashley. We will never compete with the top 8 consistently if we aren't prepared to compete with them financially, and that is the sad truth.

Alright, here's a fairly recent breakdown of wages compared to other Premiership teams to go with that earlier table of nett transfer spend that showed us second bottom over the last five years: http://www.sportingintelligence.com/2012/05/01/revealed-the-worlds-best-paid-teams-man-city-close-in-on-barca-and-real-madrid-010501/ I have taken out the Premiership teams for your convenience: Rank (last year) – Team – League – Ave player pay, £ per year (week) 3 (10) Manchester City * EPL £4,486,580 (£86,280) 4 (6) Chelsea EPL £4,118,227 (£79,197) 11 (16) Manchester United EPL £3,345,911 (£64,344) 16 (22) Arsenal EPL £3,199,678 (£61,532) 18 (20) Liverpool EPL £3,169,631 (£60,954) 41 (51) Aston Villa EPL £2,464,831 (£47,401) 51 (110) Tottenham EPL £2,308,494 (£44,394) 104 (136) Fulham EPL £1,469,616 (£28,262) 108 (120) Everton EPL £1,437,370 (£27,642) 110 (130) Sunderland EPL £1,434,654 (£27,590) 112 (151) Bolton EPL £1,419,805 (£27,304) 113 (94) West Ham EPL £1,417,310 (£27,256) 127 (63) Newcastle EPL £1,357,295 (£26,102) 137 (132) Blackburn EPL £1,311,509 (£25,221) 155 (178) Stoke EPL £1,182,425 (£22,739) 165 (152) Wigan EPL £1,107,821 (£21,304) 174 (-) Birmingham EPL £1,036,592 (£19,934) 180 (185) West Bromwich Albion EPL £1,000,064 (£19,232) 186 (-) Wolverhampton Wanderers EPL £887,146 (£17,061) 213 (-) Blackpool EPL £435,640 (£8,378) Ambition anyone?

You can say that about every other case. We reportedly couldn't give Ba, one of the top strikers in the country, the very reasonable 60/70k he wanted, now we can't compete with f***ing QPR for his replacement. It's the same story for transfer fees, where we are being massively outspent by most other Premiership clubs. Ashley's business model has its merits, but it's also holding us back massively when it comes to realising our potential. There. I've bolded the other bit now where you equated the transfer fees with our wages policy. Happy now you pedantic t***?

You can say that about every other case. We reportedly couldn't give Ba, one of the top strikers in the country, the very reasonable 60/70k he wanted, now we can't compete with f***ing QPR for his replacement. It's the same story for transfer fees, where we are being massively outspent by most other Premiership clubs. Ashley's business model has its merits, but it's also holding us back massively when it comes to realising our potential. I doubt that's true. Misrepresenting the facts isn't going to help any. There you go sir: http://i.imgur.com/bBUiA.jpg That's transfer fees only though isn't it? You were mentioning wages in your first sentence. Does that figure still hold if you take those into account? What the f***, you bolded a section and outright questioned its validity. Now you change your question. I don't have a ready graph that takes wages into account no. What I do know is our wages to turnover is one of the lowest in the league at the moment, which isn't bad in itself but it is obviously hurting us when we can't even compete with QPR for wages or offer our top scorer the going rate for a top Premiership striker. I don't think anybody can argue with that really.. Oh right. I should have realised you only wanted to discuss transfer fees and NOT include other significant expenses like wages because you wanted to make a daft point using partial truths. My bad. Are you thick mate? You bolded this particular segment in my post: and said: Those are the facts with regards to that section you questioned.

You can say that about every other case. We reportedly couldn't give Ba, one of the top strikers in the country, the very reasonable 60/70k he wanted, now we can't compete with f***ing QPR for his replacement. It's the same story for transfer fees, where we are being massively outspent by most other Premiership clubs. Ashley's business model has its merits, but it's also holding us back massively when it comes to realising our potential. Source? Tell me, who else in this league would offer Remy £80k+? You're going on as if QPR are one of the lesser paying clubs and we can't even compete with them, bollocks quite frankly. It's not bollocks. I reckon a club like Sunderland vastly outspends us terms of wage total and maximum wage their structure will allow. So you believe Sunderland would match QPR's offer? QPR are currently one of the most mental teams in the league for offering crazy wages and clauses, yet you're talking as if it should be easy to compete with them. We can offer those wages, we can do that if we wanted, but its a f***ing stupid thing to do. Yes, I don't think Sunderland would have much trouble spending 80k/week for their number one striker, especially if they could get somebody of his quality. They spent a combined 25 million or so on Adam Johnson and Steven fucking Fletcher six months ago.

You can say that about every other case. We reportedly couldn't give Ba, one of the top strikers in the country, the very reasonable 60/70k he wanted, now we can't compete with f***ing QPR for his replacement. It's the same story for transfer fees, where we are being massively outspent by most other Premiership clubs. Ashley's business model has its merits, but it's also holding us back massively when it comes to realising our potential. I doubt that's true. Misrepresenting the facts isn't going to help any. There you go sir: http://i.imgur.com/bBUiA.jpg Source?, the numbers look very odd even at first glance. http://transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/transfer-league-table-last-five-seasons.html All the transfers are there. Knock yourself out.

You can say that about every other case. We reportedly couldn't give Ba, one of the top strikers in the country, the very reasonable 60/70k he wanted, now we can't compete with f***ing QPR for his replacement. It's the same story for transfer fees, where we are being massively outspent by most other Premiership clubs. Ashley's business model has its merits, but it's also holding us back massively when it comes to realising our potential. I doubt that's true. Misrepresenting the facts isn't going to help any. There you go sir: http://i.imgur.com/bBUiA.jpg That's transfer fees only though isn't it? You were mentioning wages in your first sentence. Does that figure still hold if you take those into account? What the fuck, you bolded a section and outright questioned its validity. Now you change your question. I don't have a ready graph that takes wages into account no. What I do know is our wages to turnover is one of the lowest in the league at the moment, which isn't bad in itself but it is obviously hurting us when we can't even compete with QPR for wages or offer our top scorer the going rate for a top Premiership striker. I don't think anybody can argue with that really..

You can say that about every other case. We reportedly couldn't give Ba, one of the top strikers in the country, the very reasonable 60/70k he wanted, now we can't compete with f***ing QPR for his replacement. It's the same story for transfer fees, where we are being massively outspent by most other Premiership clubs. Ashley's business model has its merits, but it's also holding us back massively when it comes to realising our potential. Source? Tell me, who else in this league would offer Remy £80k+? You're going on as if QPR are one of the lesser paying clubs and we can't even compete with them, bollocks quite frankly. It's not bollocks. I reckon a club like Sunderland vastly outspends us terms of wage total and maximum wage their structure will allow.

You can say that about every other case. We reportedly couldn't give Ba, one of the top strikers in the country, the very reasonable 60/70k he wanted, now we can't compete with f***ing QPR for his replacement. It's the same story for transfer fees, where we are being massively outspent by most other Premiership clubs. Ashley's business model has its merits, but it's also holding us back massively when it comes to realising our potential. I doubt that's true. Misrepresenting the facts isn't going to help any. There you go sir: http://i.imgur.com/bBUiA.jpg

You can say that about every other case. We reportedly couldn't give Ba, one of the top strikers in the country, the very reasonable 60/70k he wanted, now we can't compete with fucking QPR for his replacement. It's the same story for transfer fees, where we are being massively outspent by most other Premiership clubs. Ashley's business model has its merits, but it's also holding us back massively when it comes to realising our potential.

Hey Harry Deuce, http://scratchbomb.com/images/YankeesFanDouche.gif Love, Harry

The worst thing about all of this is that TyneBridge was right..

Certainly feels like it..

It's over..

I feel like throwing up..

Aye but when he tried to sign him a week or so ago he would have offered him truck loads of cash then? whats changed? He met Derek..

You've jinxed it now. Apologies in advance for when it doesn't go through. Wait, have I just reverse jinxed it now? Apparently not

Same. I'm also still in fear of somebody like Spurs or Arsenal coming in to snap him up at the last second.

Fuck off Harry!

Have apparently signed Mangane, a 6'5 central defender Edit: or have they?