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Cheers lads Love talking with you guys. @HTT: No arguing with a word of that.

That's what the majority of British media do, isn't it? (Though I think it's much the same everywhere.) Why bother with a reasoned debate around a valid point when there's some outrage to be drummed up? Not trying to justify the reaction, but it was never going to go down any other way, was it? Even the podcast host could see this coming as soon as Davies got started and tried to head him off. Liverpudlians are rightfully incensed about Hillsborough on account of the coverup etc., and nearly 25 years later, are still being fed lies by the Establishment. Why wasn't copper in charge on the day, who was directly responsible for causing the tragedy and subsequently tried to cover it up, ever punished? Why wasn't Kelvin MacKenzie ever done for libel? Why are mothers still being lied to about the deaths of their children? On the other hand, Scousers don't half go over the top sometimes. Well, as often as not. A very important question, but one that's never going to be addressed while the media would rather bait the all-too-willing Scousers into going apeshit. What often grates with me is the we-demand-sympathy-but-accept-no-responsibility attitude that is sadly too prevalent amongst our lot. We want the day off for a Hillsborough commemoration, but why not even an annual minute's silence for Heysel (with the exception of the CL tie against Juve in 2005)? I was sickened by some bloke on RAWK who had bunked into the CL final in Istanbul, stealing a seat from a fellow Red, but didn't see anything wrong with it because he'd been supporting the club since he was a kid. You made very good and fantastic points mate, now i was going to go through them one by one but then i realised that the one answer for nearly all the points you made was "because we are scousers". In a nutshell, yeah. To be clear, I'm not trying to justify anything by that. But that's pretty much the reason. Because Scousers are Scousers. Agreed. Spot on. Hence my closing "we-demand-sympathy-but-accept-no-responsibility" comment. That said, it's not really a question of who was to blame or what happened (this is already known), but to have that confirmed by the Establishment. For all the bleating coming from Merseyside, I think it's impossible not to feel for a mother like this who just wants closure over the death of her son.

He could be off to Fortuna Dusseldorf im sure its been talked about. Would be an odd move, as Fortuna is a crappy side, but he does live in Düsseldorf. Derendorf or Pempelfort. Around the corner from my bird, at any rate. I know Raul's interpreter. He's a complete cunt. Since he got this job, it's been "Raul this, Raul that". So, as great as he's been for Schalke, I wouldn't be sad to see him off to Qatar. Less bollocks I'd have to listen to in the pub.

Who doesn't the FA let down? They just do what the EPL tells them. They stitched us up good and proper in 2005.

Aye I just checked that cos I remembered listening to that game and 5Live was wall-to-wall Hillsborough as it was the 20th anniversary, knew it was at least close, tbh I didn't even know Liverpool "don't" play on the 15th until now. As you say though, that would play if they had to, which makes the whole argument of it being a matter of principle look stupid. They don't play on the 15th because it is possible not to. Just came across comments from Dalglish blaming the fixture schedule for his team's dismal showing against Wigan: "If you play Sunday-­Wednesday-Saturday, it is going to take its toll and a lot of the lads have played three games." More than happy to force Chelsea to do it though in three massive games. Sure. I mean, it's Chelsea. Fuck them. Bonus if you ask me. Absolutely no love lost between LFC and CFC. Principles are lovely things to have as long as you can afford to.

Why not have faith in your own team and root for Everton? because we're nufc fans its ingrained not to have faith in our own team, its a hard habit to break Oh, I know the feeling well. Still, I'm tipping youse lot for the CL.

Why not have faith in your own team and root for Everton?

Yup, there has. The CL quarter final against Chelsea in 2009 was due for 14th/15th April. UEFA wouldn't absolutely guarantee that we wouldn't have to play on 15th, but apparently they tweaked their algorithm so it wouldn't be drawn that way. At any rate, the game was on the 14th. Which was nice of them, considering Platini was in charge. I don't think for a second that we wouldn't play on the 15th if UEFA said we had to. There'd be a lot of whining, of course, but when isn't there?

Not trying to justify the reaction, but it was never going to go down any other way, was it? Even the podcast host could see this coming as soon as Davies got started and tried to head him off. Eh? Davies is the host. And Ian Stone doesn't try to head him off at all, I laughed when I read that today, all he says is "too... sad a memories", he's clearly got humour in his voice. Right, sorry. I got the wrong end of the stick. I don't listen to the podcast regularly, and only heard the relevant clip. I stand corrected.

Sure, but like I said, Liverpool fans don't care one bit what other people think. Indeed, a lot of them prefer the them-vs-us siege mentality that currently prevails. He's not as bad as Dalglish, but I don't think he's ever had such a bad spell as Kenny has been having ...

That's what the majority of British media do, isn't it? (Though I think it's much the same everywhere.) Why bother with a reasoned debate around a valid point when there's some outrage to be drummed up? Not trying to justify the reaction, but it was never going to go down any other way, was it? Even the podcast host could see this coming as soon as Davies got started and tried to head him off. Liverpudlians are rightfully incensed about Hillsborough on account of the coverup etc., and nearly 25 years later, are still being fed lies by the Establishment. Why wasn't copper in charge on the day, who was directly responsible for causing the tragedy and subsequently tried to cover it up, ever punished? Why wasn't Kelvin MacKenzie ever done for libel? Why are mothers still being lied to about the deaths of their children? On the other hand, Scousers don't half go over the top sometimes. Well, as often as not. A very important question, but one that's never going to be addressed while the media would rather bait the all-too-willing Scousers into going apeshit. What often grates with me is the we-demand-sympathy-but-accept-no-responsibility attitude that is sadly too prevalent amongst our lot. We want the day off for a Hillsborough commemoration, but why not even an annual minute's silence for Heysel (with the exception of the CL tie against Juve in 2005)? I was sickened by some bloke on RAWK who had bunked into the CL final in Istanbul, stealing a seat from a fellow Red, but didn't see anything wrong with it because he'd been supporting the club since he was a kid.

It's not really a topic, tbh. Most LFC fans think the media are a bunch of cunts, anyway, especially Sky. LFC fans really thrive on the them-vs-us mentality: "We're not English, we're Scouse." Also, everyone knows that it's just a show Kenny puts on for the media, much like Ferguson. He's an utter gent off-camera. There is a RAWK thread on Kenny's interviews (The King's Speech), but commenting is forbidden (videos and transcripts only).

Nice photo of him they found TBH, I think what he said about Spurs was worse. I've heard the clip (but not the whole thing), and it didn't strike me as "mocking" or a "rant". Why can't we hold a ceremony before the match against Everton instead, and at the same time at Anfield? Everton fans lost friends and family, too. Seems appropriate to me.

Wonder if it was his disguise tweet that did it.

Nice knowing you mate. Aye What you reckon flowers or donations ? Donate some flowers.

Sounds like a splendid idea.

Well, he won't need the wig.

That's awesome!

Unfriend this mong man

At the right goal this time. Watch us let another one in now

Fucking hell. Best shot Carroll has had all bloody game

I read that bit in particular in such a scouse accent it's unreal. I just tried that. I guess that's a Scouse tongue twister.

It's like something from Ringling Brothers is this

Should had stuck to his guns. Agree. It was a perfectly valid opinion. I'm all for the memorial service and that, but as Davies pointed out, it's screwing over other clubs.

Quite correct, although it is a side note that you may see slight over exaggerations and such on the internet work. You're telling this to a member of RAWK??? Sarcastically or not, whatever you prefer. Was taken and meant in humour