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there is clinically depressed, also manic depression which always hint at more than just feeling a bit miffed with things. I know. But "depression" is far too often used as shorthand for both. Which gets conflated with what you and I mean when we say we're feeling a "little depressed". So people mix up manic or clinical depression with being "really depressed", in the lost my job, wife and kids sense. The kind of things that might drive an otherwise mentally-healthy person to suicide. And they look at an extremely successful and rich guy like Gary Speed, and think, "what the fuck did he have to be depressed about? He's never know real problems, like where am I going to get the money to feed my kids."

"Cunt" is the right word. They should give it a different name than "depression". It makes it sound like you're just down, which most people associate with stress and problems, and think, "what the fuck has he/she to be depressed about?" It's a proper illness, just like schizophrenia or psychopathy.

Didn't he claim the one he won against Arsenal to be all down to him? You mean the 2001 FA Cup Final, otherwise known as the "Owen final"? Yeah, but not without some merit. We were under the hammer the entire game, and Owen pulled two goals out of his arse to win it (with a little help from Paddy Berger and Henchoz' handball off the line). TBH, if we're talking about 2001, he deserves every bit of praise he gets. He was absolutely astonishing that year. And then he tore his hamstring in the autumn/winter, lost his bottle, and it's been downhill from there.

Owen got one

Ouch!

How would you know?

Fucking YES!

It's normally okay, even if the mods can be a bit overenthusiastic with thread locking and bans, but it's gone mental since this Suarez business started. Also, some of the mods have a hair-trigger when it comes to anti-Kenny talk. Still, there are a lot more posters on RAWK than on here, and a correspondingly higher number of rabid, shite-spouting eejits. Personally, I rarely even bother to go in the football forum on there.

Don't say things like that. It ruins the effect.

Surely they were all Man City fans?

The mods on RAWK added "Mr Suarez is not a racist" to every member's custom title.

First thing I saw. Had to

Really? I've always found him to be a level-headed, down-to-earth and all-round decent bloke. I only chat with him in the cycling thread, though. I'm half expecting someone to read what I've written on here and ban me from RAWK … I'd be right proper fucking gutted if it were Pheeny, though

Hopefully the last of my late night drunken rants: the Jack Daniel's is gone now, thank fuck.

Other than the fact that the dude cannot use hyphens correctly, it's spot on. And yet, if you go through the report with the assumption that everything Suarez says is true (which is pretty hard—he contradicts himself repeatedly, and says things that his own mother probably wouldn't believe), you will end up with the conclusion that he was stitched up. It boggles my mind that the self-same people who were calling for him to be hanged after his handball at the World Cup could now believe that butter wouldn't melt in his mouth, apparently just because he's now got a red shirt on. I wish they'd just fucking shut up about it. It's embarrassing. and there's more... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-16642381 How's she gonna prove he was alive after 16:00? That's an over-simplification. Essentially, she did the detective work that the police didn't do, hunting down the people that carried him off the pitch and the policemen who resuscitated him, all of whom stated he was alive. Pathologists she consulted said that the given cause of death—traumatic asphyxia—was patently wrong. He had several fractures in his neck, which over time, would have caused swelling that would have stopped him breathing. It's possible that had he received proper medical treatment (a tracheotomy), he might have survived. He might have died, anyway, but the fact remains that he didn't receive the treatment that might have saved his life, and the initial verdict was a half-arsed whitewash. On the one hand, you can understand that a coroner faced with 96 dead bodies could not reasonably carry out a thorough autopsy on all of them, and had to cut some corners, but on the other hand, you can also understand that a bullshit autopsy and corner cutting are utterly unacceptable to a mother who lost her son. There seems to be little doubt that she has a reasonable case, and I think it's understandable that she wants/needs closure on the matter. And I personally think it's terrible that it's taken over 20 years for the state to finally get around to trying to do the job properly, and only motivated to do so by a petition with over 100,000 signatures, particularly when she has had expert testimony contradicting the coroner's verdict for many years.

"European football without Liverpool is like a banquet without wine." (There'll be no drunken Scousers.) As long as it's not Lonsdale.

Haven't got a clue who they are, but as long as they cough up and don't go bankrupt like Man Utd's AIG sponsor, they're fine by me. (Assuming they don't murder baby seals and so on, of course …)

What? What? What? To be fair, if he were actually in on it, it could be a funny app. But he's not. So it's the worst app ever. Imagine if he did a soundboard. Oh yes! Please, please, please, someone make an Owen soundboard!

Fucking hell. I could never stop my mother sending me Owen-related LFC/England crap despite my protestations, but at least I never had a shirt with the gobshite's name on it. Given how well he did for us back in the day, I must have been psychic …

What? What? What? To be fair, if he were actually in on it, it could be a funny app. But he's not. So it's the worst app ever.

And if you put it that way, it could only be an improvement. (My favourite wrestler ever.)

Gutted to lose the three stripes, but as we've "replaced Adidas with a club record, 6-year, 25 million pound ($38.3 million) contract with Warrior Sports", fuck it. IIRC, Adidas came in 2006 when we were European champions. It's understandable that they weren't willing to pay the same price.

Some of them are pretty funny. This guy doesn't seem to really get it: soultwinjeff Michael Owen likes horse racing #MichaelOwenFacts soultwinjeff Michael Owen enjoys the German xmas markets #MichaelOwenFacts

you can make the "if we'd won against X side" argument if you're talking about a couple of games here and there, but they're not isolated slip ups if they happen over and over and over and over and over again. And it's been going on for years … Year in, year out, we do well enough against the sides at the top of the league and then fail to win the theoretically easier games. Aye, shit finishing. We usually create chances aplenty, but just can't make them count.

Yup. When he did his hamstring at the end of 2001, it was all downhill from there. Before that he was fearless, but he lost his bottle completely after that.