Minhosa
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Kaka?
Gerrard?
That's just off the top of my head.
Against the Toon maybe, but now FOR the Toon.
Ginola. Not sure about the stats but a MUCH better player. Fact.
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I was at the match today and have to say one big reason for us not winning was the performance of Scott Parker.
Butt cleans up most of the balls/players that come through the middle of the park but Parker simply gets in the fucking way.
HE doesn't know what he is. Is an attacking midfielder or a holding midfielder?
Because to be honest, he offerred absolutely dick all today going forward and doesn't need to play any part of the holding role. HE is the reason we're struggling.
Emre, with Butt sweeping up, CAN take off the shackles and bomb on. He's a different player without any defensive responsibilities (i.e: When Butt plays) AND yes we missed him today.
It's no coincidence that we are far more effective with a Butt/Emre partnership.
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got a treble on this weekend,
cardiff to beat barnsley
liverpool to beat everton,
wallsall to beat rochdale,
come on big rocky chopra
Good calls, all of them.
I've got a large single on Cardiff tonight and on Chopra (to score at any time in the 90 mins @ 9/4).
good bet that
Cheers Nobby. They're only ever good when they come in!
The little fucker is due to do me a favour the amount of times I've backed Cardiff thinking they were a home banker over the last couple of months though.
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got a treble on this weekend,
cardiff to beat barnsley
liverpool to beat everton,
wallsall to beat rochdale,
come on big rocky chopra
Good calls, all of them.
I've got a large single on Cardiff tonight and on Chopra (to score at any time in the 90 mins @ 9/4).
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Never trust a man who doesn't look you in the eye when he shakes your hand tbh.
Exactly what I thought when I opened this thread up TBH. Dodgy. He'll probably have a stomer and then bugger off at the end of the year. Sly eyes.
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My disappointing players are
Babayaro, Tomasson, Saha, Marcelinho and Luque
Eh? How could you be that DISAPPOINTED with Saha? He was a loan player, probably on a few grand a week. He hardly came with a massive reputation or anything.
Don't get that TBH
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Glad we got Gooch to be honest.
Upson is a good player on his day, but has been raveaged by injuries, and he certainly isnt a spring chicken any more.
My thoughts exactly.
I'd happily have paid £2m or £3m for Upson and taken a 'chance' on his fitness but he'll never play 30 games a season for them.
Smacks of desperation TBH.
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Pistone is up there for me. Italian Under 21 Captain, played for Inter and a big investment from us at the time at £4.5m. I thought he was going to be the answer to our left sided problems for years. He wasn't.
Never once saw how he could have represented Italy or how he was ever worth that kind of money and salary.
I guess, like Viana, we were paying for his potential.
When I look back at Viana's time at the club though I reckon he was blighted a bit by Speeds endurance which made him undroppable in Viana's first season. After that, he never looked 'up' for the battle in the premiership and to be fair, he hasn't really shone elsewhere BUT there were glimpses of his quality (i.e: That through ball for Bernard at St James' against Chelsea IIRC).
There was never a glimpse from Pistone though.
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I haven't rated him either.
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Alonso is worth FAR more than £5M.
I think he's talking profit on top of the fee paid.
If so Liverpool will never make a profit on Bellamy imo.
£5m profit on Reina, They paid about £8m for him and tbf he hasnt exactly been out standing for Pool.
Bellamy has been terrible so i agree they wouldnt make anything on him.
Kuyt has done anything to justify a £3m profit.
You are kidding right? You haven't been impressed by Kuyt? You don't think Bellamy has proved he can make the step up from UEFA (Blackburn) to a Champs League quality EPL side? You're talking bollocks mate.
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Alonso is worth FAR more than £5M.
I think he's talking profit on top of the fee paid.
If so Liverpool will never make a profit on Bellamy imo.
Thanks Toon's Taylor. Glad someone got the point of the post. I disagree on Bellamy - I think they'll make a comfortable profit on him personally.
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Alonso is worth FAR more than £5M.
THE FIGURES IN BRACKETS ARE APPROXIMATE PROFITS MADE ON THE ORIGINAL FEE.
Still tihnk they could get over £15.5M for him.
I don't think they would make much more than £15m for him
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£50m better off?
I'm no Liverpool apologist but I think the answer to that question is yes.
He (Benitez) would make a comfortable profit on:-
Bellamy (£3m)
Alonso (£5m)
Sissoko (£8m)
Aurelio (£1m)
Kuyt (£3m)
Agger (£5m)
Reina (£5m)
Palletta (£1m)
The figures are off the top of my head but, in principal if you take into account his Champions League win, you can't say Benitez hasn't been a good appointment. Certainly compared to Souness, appointed a few months later by us, he is. Fred's (on the verge of the boot) biggest failure IMO. They (Pool) appointed a sought after Manager at the time and we appointed Souness (on the verge of the boot) as Gaffer.
They got the above and we got Babayaro, Luque, Parker, Boumsong and Co. Cheers Fred.
Have I missed something or are you just being a cock?
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Alonso is worth FAR more than £5M.
THE FIGURES IN BRACKETS ARE APPROXIMATE PROFITS MADE ON THE ORIGINAL FEE.
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£50m better off?
I'm no Liverpool apologist but I think the answer to that question is yes.
He (Benitez) would make a comfortable profit on:-
Bellamy (£3m)
Alonso (£5m)
Sissoko (£8m)
Aurelio (£1m)
Kuyt (£3m)
Agger (£5m)
Reina (£5m)
Palletta (£1m)
The figures are off the top of my head but, in principal if you take into account his Champions League win, you can't say Benitez hasn't been a good appointment. Certainly compared to Souness, appointed a few months later by us, he is. Fred's (on the verge of the boot) biggest failure IMO. They (Pool) appointed a sought after Manager at the time and we appointed Souness (on the verge of the boot) as Gaffer.
They got the above and we got Babayaro, Luque, Parker, Boumsong and Co. Cheers Fred.
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But he did, he has only been there 3 seasons, i think he is doing ok tbh. All of our past managers have improved things, souness fucked us up and took us to bottom half, evans got us to top 6, won one cup, but atleast got some pride back, houllier got us to top 4 or 5 each season and won some cups then went downhill a bit, benetez has cemented us in top 4 and won 2 trophys.
Cemented top 4? Has he? You finished 5th in this first season, 2nd last season but I'd put that more down to Man U & Arsenal going through a season of transition rather than Liverpool's brilliance, and you're not guaranteed top 4 by any means this season either.
To be fair I reckon Benitez' and his subsequent signings would always guarantee them a top four place in the league (as it stands) bar a couple of crazy takeovers. IMO he's spent reasonably well.
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£20 adults & £10 kids for the replay.
Ridiculous.
Judging by their efforts for home match we can probably expect about 2 Birmingham fans at those prices.
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Have always hated Ljungberg, so no. Overrated player with limited ability who hit a purple patch a few seasons ago - ignore that purple patch and hes like Bowyer, constantly missing or scuffing good chances. Does nowt except get the ball and pass it away, or play for a foul, although admittedly he has intelligent movement. I think Ljungberg is a very lucky man to have been playing for Arsenal, because its that movement that made him perfect for their system - anywhere else and hed just be an average player.
Hes too lightweight to be a central midfielder in the Premiership, the only positions he can play well are on both wings and to a lesser degree, behind the forwards. Might do a decent job here behind the fowards, but I think with Dyer and Emre we dont need that, and with Milner being able to play both wings, as well as Duff, we dont need him as a winger either - not that he ever was a true winger, again Arsenal's style of play helped him here.
Wenger is very good at getting rid of players before they become a burden.
Absolutely spot on Parky lad. Thats what would put me off Lauren too.
And Big Sol
Aye but how many seasons will Campbell play for now? one more at this level? and has Wenger missed him? Not a bit.
Campbell's responded well to Harrys man management but he won't have the legs to play on. Hence he's virtually finished.
There aren't many players who Wengers let go that have gone on to produce better form for more than one season.
Jeffers
Petit
Overmars
Silvinho
Pires (granted he's fucked)
Winterburn
Anelka
The list goes on and on. Hence the reason I wouldn't be too keen to take Ljungberg or Lauren.
Wrong.
Arsenal have been terrible at the back at times this season. However, Sol and Gallas would have been amazing together.
Think Arsenal's defence has been quality, even more so when Gallas plays. Toure is one of the most under-rated players about, absolutely immense defender.
Totally agree and for the same weekly wage as Campbell Arsenal now have a stronger squad (Since buying Rosicky, Hleb are probably on about £40k a week and Sol was on a minimum of £80k).
Wenger and Ferguson are normally spot on when it comes to getting rid of players just in time.
Vieira has not produced his Arsenal form for Inter and he'll be finished (Certainly in his current position) in a couple of years. Arsenal got good dollar at the right time.
IMO Wenger is the best Manager (given the size and spending power of Arsenal when he took them over) in the Premiership and his speciality is buying at low cost and selling when the same players have maximum value. The only exception to this seems to have been Henry. I doubt they'll ever get an offer like the £30m Barca were going to pay for him again.
He won't be getting rid of Ljungberg if he's got 2 decent seasons left in him.
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Have always hated Ljungberg, so no. Overrated player with limited ability who hit a purple patch a few seasons ago - ignore that purple patch and hes like Bowyer, constantly missing or scuffing good chances. Does nowt except get the ball and pass it away, or play for a foul, although admittedly he has intelligent movement. I think Ljungberg is a very lucky man to have been playing for Arsenal, because its that movement that made him perfect for their system - anywhere else and hed just be an average player.
Hes too lightweight to be a central midfielder in the Premiership, the only positions he can play well are on both wings and to a lesser degree, behind the forwards. Might do a decent job here behind the fowards, but I think with Dyer and Emre we dont need that, and with Milner being able to play both wings, as well as Duff, we dont need him as a winger either - not that he ever was a true winger, again Arsenal's style of play helped him here.
Wenger is very good at getting rid of players before they become a burden.
Absolutely spot on Parky lad. Thats what would put me off Lauren too.
And Big Sol
Aye but how many seasons will Campbell play for now? one more at this level? and has Wenger missed him? Not a bit.
Campbell's responded well to Harrys man management but he won't have the legs to play on. Hence he's virtually finished.
There aren't many players who Wengers let go that have gone on to produce better form for more than one season.
Jeffers
Petit
Overmars
Silvinho
Pires (granted he's fucked)
Winterburn
Anelka
The list goes on and on. Hence the reason I wouldn't be too keen to take Ljungberg or Lauren.
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Have always hated Ljungberg, so no. Overrated player with limited ability who hit a purple patch a few seasons ago - ignore that purple patch and hes like Bowyer, constantly missing or scuffing good chances. Does nowt except get the ball and pass it away, or play for a foul, although admittedly he has intelligent movement. I think Ljungberg is a very lucky man to have been playing for Arsenal, because its that movement that made him perfect for their system - anywhere else and hed just be an average player.
Hes too lightweight to be a central midfielder in the Premiership, the only positions he can play well are on both wings and to a lesser degree, behind the forwards. Might do a decent job here behind the fowards, but I think with Dyer and Emre we dont need that, and with Milner being able to play both wings, as well as Duff, we dont need him as a winger either - not that he ever was a true winger, again Arsenal's style of play helped him here.
Wenger is very good at getting rid of players before they become a burden.
Absolutely spot on Parky lad. Thats what would put me off Lauren too.
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Unlucky.
Should have taken our chances.
However saying that we should win the replay.
That.
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Would prefer Ashton to either of them. And we might get him in the summer if West Ham go down.
Ashton would be my choice - anyday of the week. Its just a shame that they don't need the money nowadays.
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Get him. As much as we have other priorities I am salivating over the thought of Owen, Martins and Bent as our first three strikers. I dare say those 3 together could form the most lethal strikeforce the league has ever seen.
Wouldn't even be the best strikeforce we've had since we came into the Premier League and it wouldn't be the best strikeforce in the league at present either.
Agreed.
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Suprised tbh, first thing you want for a relegation battle is a goalscorer!
Very true but Charlton gave Dowie much more money than they ever gave Curbishley to spend in one summer and the idiot blew it such numpties as Faye, Traore etc etc.
I reckon they have to sell to buy.
He's the most valuable asset they have. If they can buy a few decent players with the money made from his sale they'll hope one or two of them hit form at the right time.
Thats my logic on it anyway.
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I wouldn't have Robert - even now. He was a lazy, mouthy twat and he thought he was far better than he was.
Given a choice, I take Ginola over him every day of the week. A far better player to watch.